Tradition forces girls into prostitution
Editor's note: In some Indian villages, girls are sent into prostitution by their families - a tradition that began as religious obligation but is now continued for money. In "Trapped by Tradition," which airs Saturday and Sunday on CNN International, (viewing times below) "Slumdog Millionaire" star Anil Kapoor shows how Indian charities are trying to stop the tradition. CNN has changed Priya and Puja's names.
Bharatpur District, India - She's around 13 years old. She goes to school, loves to sing and dance, and between giggles, she says she dreams of being an actress one day.
Puja hardly looks like a fighter but beneath her smiling face is a steely resolve. She is the first girl in her family to go to school and is determined to finish it. Very few girls in her community have done that.
Puja's mother wasn't given that chance. Priya, now in her late 30s, was forced into prostitution when she was a young girl.
Stories like this are common in the Bharatpur district of Rajasthan state in Western India, where girls are sold to brothels, once they hit puberty.
Locals mark this rite of passage with a coming of age ceremony called Nathni Utarna – which translates as taking off the nose ring - that signifies a girl is ready to be sent into the sex trade, that she's considered ready to sleep with her first client.
Plan India, a charity working in the village to wipe out the tradition, says these ceremonies were once common but now it's getting harder to find families to admit they held one.
Indian film star Anil Kapoor, as a patron of Plan India, said: "A lot of the rehabilitated women are ensuring that the girls from their families don't get thrown into the practice.
"It's a small step, but one in the right direction. Changing the mindset of the people in the village is key.
"Now that the women themselves are taking a stand against prostitution, I am hopeful, optimistic, we can end this tradition.
He took a CNN Freedom Project crew to the village in Bharatpur district where Puja showed us the progress.
Often, young girls are pushed into the sex business by their own fathers and brothers. The men see nothing wrong with it.
They say it is a tradition that has been passed down through generations. It began with the devdasi culture (devdasi means servant of God).
Under the devdasi system, girls were dedicated to a life of sex work in the name of religion.
Initially, they would serve upper class men in the local community. The girls would entertain princes and landlords with song and dance.
Gradually, this gave way to a life of prostitution. Many women, like Priya, end up in the red light districts of India's major cities.
Money is key. In the sleepy village some residents make money from farming and others are daily wage laborers. But there is very little money.It's an area of extreme poverty – so sending a daughter into the sex business is seen as a way for parents to unburden themselves of a child -and, it's lucrative.
A former prostitute told CNN she would earn as much as $20 a day working in New Delhi's red light district. It's a lot of money for families in this area, many of whom live on less than a dollar a day.
Priya works in a New Delhi brothel. She lives there for a few months, earns handsomely and then returns to her village for a few weeks to spend time with her family.
She says she continues to work as a prostitute because she does not want her children to follow in her footsteps. "What we did, we don't want our children to do that," says Priya. "It should not happen to anyone."
Plan India and its local partner, Gram Niyojan Kendra, are bringing change to Priya's village -and she wants Puja to benefit from that.
Officials at the charities say they are making inroads; that the practice of sending girls into prostitution is gradually declining.
Plan India has recently opened four new schools in the area, and they are full of students.
"It's difficult to get women who are already in the sex trade to quit, because they get used to the income," says Bhagyashri Dengle, Plan India's executive director.
So the group focuses on preventing young children from falling into the same trap. Education is the key to change, says Dengle.
They offer counseling to the women and encourage them to find other ways of earning money. In some cases, Plan India-GNK helps them start a small business such helping to buy a cow so the woman can then sell milk.
Puja says she's delighted she's going to school. It gives her a sense of purpose and confidence.
When Kapoor and CNN visited her village, it was Puja who showed us around.
She proudly took us on a tour of the schools in the area. Small, bright classrooms that were packed with students and bursting with hope.
For Puja, the hope is she won't get trapped by tradition and is able realize her dreams - to finish school and to make her mother proud.
"Trapped by Tradition" viewing times.
Saturday September 24:
2100 Hong Kong: 2000 London; 2100 CET; 2300 Abu Dhabi
Sunday September 25:
1900 Hong Kong, 1300 CET, 2100 New York/Miami, 2000 Mexico City
Tuesday September 27:
1730 Hong Kong – 1930 CET – 2130 Abu Dhabi
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Well done CNN and Anil kapoor
I support in giving kudos to CNN & Anil Kaapor. Is realy a good & enormous efforts trying to change an old tradition (Very challenging, i presume). Bleaf me , d children will never stop thanking God on your behalf for saving them from vice. Luv U!
Who says India is shinning. It just the last moment before it will be Endia,
To ISI here – Who said India is "shinning" you idiot! They said India is "shining"! Which country taught you English I wonder!
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is it part of HOLY Hindu religion like drinking COW urine, can some body reply me back???
@ osama Your forefathers from pakistan were hindu and i guess they drank it too. why dont you go ask your parants. or you can ask your converted arab side which drinks camel urine. may be they might know?
Tradition? Or poverty with no other options.
Too many people, certainly, and all the other problems flow from there.
It could be powerty for her parents who introduced her. But she seems to be perfectly happy now. She works, takes long vacations to go back to her family, makes 20 times more than anyone else in the village. And she returns volunterily(!!!!). It's not really a slavery, it is her concious choice. She prefers this type of work over hard working in the field. Do you want to tell her that she shouldn't be doing this and that she should instead labor on a plantation, or tool at the assembly line? Repeat it again, she is doing this volunterily. She is not a slave, she choose it as her job, a profession. And let her practice it, instead of killing her business off.
But somebody has the money to keep paying for the many thousands/millions (?) of girls forced into this mess. There must not be as much poverty as we are lead to believe.
VR13 – my other comment was moderated but here is the ladies statement from within the article:
"She says she continues to work as a pr–os-t–itute because she does not want her children to follow in her footsteps. "What we did, we don't want our children to do that," says Priya. "It should not happen to anyone."
But someone will also be poorer than the other, and someone will always be paying for services while the others – performing them. Do you prefer that woman work hard on a construction, carrying briks all day long and making a fraction of money? Or spending day in the field, making even less?
To W427. And do you think a poor day laborer wishes his children will work so hard day in and out for almost no money? If that woman believes it's that wrong, she can exit the trade. She is there volunterily. Meanwhile, it's us who make it difficult for her. We stigmatize the trade for them, making it sound shameful and thus difficult. It used to be normal in that community/society, normal to the point that people wouldn't need to hide it: "My daughter works in a field." And my daughter is in the city, waiting tables" "And my daughter is entertaining men" "And mine – helping lay bricks at the construction site." And now because of "liberals" the trade is shameful, and the girl would be either traumatized or forced to leave it and go work in the field.
VR13 –
I would carry bricks before I let myself be put into that position.
@VR13 I'd work construction and starve before doing that stuff. And that isn't because of shame. That is because it would be awful to do that daily with just random people. Yuck.
@VR13 actually it said, "She says she continues to work as a pr-os-ti-tute because she does not want her children to follow in her footsteps." She is trying to fund her kids education so they don't have to live that awful life. I bet if she didn't have kids she would have gotten out already.
VR13 – would you allow your daughter or your wife to do that? Sleep with the highest – or lowest – bidder without shaming her when she comes back home to you?
"I'd work construction," and "I would carry bricks." Good luck. And we'll see what you say after 15 years of that, without being able to provide for your children. And without any light at the end of the tunnel. And we'll see whether you would wish your children follow your route.
@vr31 I wouldn't have children if I was that poor.
VR13:
The point is that I DO have a light at the end of my tunnel, a trust that I will be taken care of, that my needs will be met by my Lord and Savior. To do something outside of that nature, that is against His will is not what I would be willing to put my family through.
VR13, she didn't really choose it, she does it so her daughters won't, she does it so they can eat. You're right maybe it's not slavery, but it certainly is a decision made under heavy duress.
To VR13,
This lady is doing this in order to give her children a better future. This is something that a lot of Indians do -almost kill themselves in order to give their children everything they did not have. I am not sure how and when this became a part of the mindset of the vast majority of Indians. And then there is this minority of people who do things like force their daughters in to the flesh trade. Always takes all kinds fo make a world. Casey Anthony case proved that right.
Nice point, clearly a Government's fault. They even don't have nice & comfortable classrooms...How the hell they end up like these? INDIA WAKE UP!!!
SHAME ON THE MEN.
certainly poverty with no option.
Agree with Wastrel. Overpopulation is the underlying problem. Still I applaud trying whatever can be attempted to help the problem.
it is part of Hindu religion, like drinking COW URINE,widow have to immolation herself on husband funeral when he (husband) die.
I am ALL FOR education and giving the opportunity to do other things, but honestly I hope they do not swing too far the other way by banning 'working' entirely and removing it as a "legitimate" option. Doing so would not eliminate 'working', it would just make it less safe for the women involved.
That said, 13 might be... a bit young. Age of majority is mostly a cultural thing (as opposed to the " "working' will always exist" fact of life) so I'm not gonna judge and say they're terrible or barbaric because of it or that they MUST change... but raising the age to something like 15 would likely help make sure the choice was one SHE made instead of her family
Your comment made me feel ill at my stomach. Even at 15 a girl is very much still a child in her mind and is in no way old enough to decide to be a pro on purpose (Really I am not even sure there is anyone who should fall to such a low opinion of themselves to do this) This discussion wouldn't even be happening if the reverse were true. Do you think anyone in that region would be ok with taking a 13 or 15 year old boy and letting men use them in that way? No they would be freaked. What is sick is that since it is a girl it is some how ok. It is child abuse plain and simple. I would rather die than have been treated like that.
Yeah, because 15 is so much older than 13. And at 15 they really understand what they are getting into. Well, really being forced into, I can't think of a 15 year-old thinking this is the greatest life ever. Their parents will make the decision, whether the kids are 13, 15 or 18. They will be offered to starve to death or "work" like you put it nicely.
Ann, you are talking from the position of a Westerner, a foreigner for that culture. Their perception might be different. They might not see shame in this, nor many other emotional problems. While I agree that a young girl might want to decide on its own to enter this path, noone prevents a woman to quit. This is her choice. It's not slavery.
And once we are on the subject, quite a few women in the world choose similar path, although might be less explicit. When faced about the need to work 60 hours a week the entire live for pennies or to date/sleep/socialize with wealthy men, many women, including in the US, chose the later.
Also,
Right...... 15 wouuld make it HER choice.
Because that's what every 15 year old girl would choose.....to have some middle-aged slimy, filthy, sweaty, balding fat guy all over her........and for $20 a day......that makes each trick, what, like.....$ .50 to $1.00?
VR13,
I think you missed some of the article. It said that the tradition BEGAN as woman entertaining wealthy men.
It said that NOW these women and children work the Red Light Districts.
Google the Red Light District of India – see how wealthy it looks.....then come back and post again....
@VR13 I am not talking about shame. That isn't even the tip of what I am talking about. I am talking about what it would be like to be violated against your will daily for life. Not to mention being daily exposed to potential exposure to diseases or unwanted pregnancy if the birth control fails. Taking an act that should be with someone you trust and love and making it traumatic and unenjoyable event and having them repeat it daily. You take a girl who is totally innocent and has no idea what is going to happen or what it means at all and then asking her, "Hey you want to do this". Do you think she has any idea what she is getting into? Do you have any idea what it does to a girl to experience that in an unloving setting that is painful and awful? We're not talking about her having real relationships with people she chooses here. A girl regardless of culture should not have to be exposed to painful abrupt introduction to a life they don't know anything about prior. With guys of all types they have no choice over too. Again like I said just talking about this is making me ill.
lol, u went there, i didn't think u would go there but you did. yes age is a cultural thing,
Oh yeah and don't even get me started on how much they have to do that daily. Her parts would probably be sore daily. Yeah that sounds like fun. Not to mention having to sleep with anyone who comes up with the money regardless if you find them repulsive or not.
yes because a 15 year old is oh so worldly and can't be manipulated at all
Pick a number, any number. Wait! Not THAT one, it won't WORK... On the one end of the spectrum you have the very real issue that it's too young. On the other you have an impossible task of getting it accepted by the village as a suitable answer. 15 is obviously still too young, yet perhaps, just PERHAPS it's an obtainable number and it's better than the status quo.
Really – the suggested approach of weeding them off that particular path entirely is the most likely to have a lasting impact. Good luck, it won't be easy – but nothing worth while usually is.
The article says: " a tradition that began as religious obligation" but tradition teaches us that abstaining is what is correct and what a devout unmarried person does. That is the strong of will that is able to withstand the temptation and thereby feeding the spirit vice the body. If you would not give a man you do not know $100, then why would you give him your body or your daughters body? Is their worth not more? I think over time the truth in all of this has been blurred by lazy greed. This is a quick and easy and only the daughters need to suffer and not the person forcing the daughters into this. This is selfish to ask of a child you are susposed to both protect and love.
shame shame shame on the men. it seems that men put religion as the reason for these "traditions". it's really because they think with their penises. now mind you, most men are wonderful, but those that still believe this crap, should be castrated.
and mothers and fathers should empower their young girls to be independent.
unfortunately, if you're a woman who works, it's still a man that gave you the job. when will this change?
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Hey, where's our atheists? Aren't you going to blame the meatball monster or something? Already commented? I thought u guys were like the marines – the first in and the last to leave!
Hey, where's our atheists? Aren't you going to blame the meatball monster or something? Already commented? I thought u guys were like the marines – the first in and the last to leave!
I like all you mouths out there who say you would carry a brick before being forced into this life. You obviously were NOT born in a oppressive, poverty stricken country where females have few rights and ZERO respect. Get over yourself....
@Urjokinrite Thank you for having a brain!
This has nothing to do with "Indian" traditions. I would say Anil Kapoor needs to know more about Indian tradition. Indian traditions are 1000s of years old.
There may be customs that a group of people follow or got formed within certain groups at certain times as there were no restrictions or hard rules imposed on people in India against those. Anybody has the right to form and spread his or her own ideologies. India has never hanged anyone for that in history. They have the complete freedom and privilege to question or deviate from what is being followed – correct or wrong. That is the level of freedom that you would see in India. In such a society, it is so easy to get wrong customs like this (what CNN/Mr.Kapoor reported) a practice.
India has a long history of religious conflict, killing thousands. To say that India has never hanged anyone for ideological reasons is absurd. Some times the conqueror would reduce those without means to slavery - much more profitable than mass slaughter, or when Islam took over, it would let the untouchables convert, but still many remained in slavery for generations. It is past time to sweep religious tradition and hatred away.
India is my country. It's not shining, but it's bright. USE YOUR WORDS RIGHT! There was a Great Depression, I don't dare say a bad thing about it.
Sure, doing things bad isn't right, but those guys- are bad guys. I am a girl, i go to school (in the southern parts of India) I go shopping there, I'm not rich too.
you are lucky that you are still alive, your parent would have killed you if they found out that your mother is carrying a girl when your mother was pregnant
@Osama I guess thats what they do in Pakistan. thats why most pakistanis have boys. and also muslims in india have boys. the reason is they kill their girls. My sis in law married a muslim. guess what when she was expecting. her father in law comes and tell her "we only have boys in our family, a girl would not be nice" guess what she goes and aborts. thats your true face to produce like rats and then do love jihad, as you guys have done in kerela.
The same type on nonsense goes on in Thailand.You can be treated harshly if you point your foot at one of their religious idols, by accident. They are easily insulted. But the streets are full of very old German men with young girlfriends. No one even blinks, because it is seen as a way for them to provide money for the family.
It's quite disgusting, as a person of India origin it's a shame that these things continue. Tradition is one thing, but this is JUST WRONG. Because people thousands of years ago, manipulated people into this doesn't mean it has a place in India. I support Anil. Education and empowerment is the only way. India needs to realize this and fix this. India has a lot of problems, and has overcome a lot in it's history, this is just one more obstacle India needs to get over. God speed.
Your comment is quite true about people thousands of years ago finding and using means to manipulate. However, this concept isn't limited to just this tradition. All religion in general finds it's roots in this motivation. Manipulation, through fear, intimidation and tradition is still one of the longest running hoaxes of mankind. Where do you think the term "god fearing" (used to describe religious people) came from?
Very well said. In the 21st century too religion is still exploiting common peoples.
Agreed. I wish we had more groups that fought against "tradition".
This is a human rights issue, not a "religion" or "Tradition" issue. All humans should have the basic right to live unmolested, with decent food and clean water.
Great comment Jeff. Totally agree with you.
Ok the term "God Fearing is not intended to mean a dreadful fear of god. It's intent is a wholesome fear of displeasin him out of love for.him and his righteous standards.
thank you Jaime for correcting Jeff on that.
When you say one thing thats wrong, it throws off whatever else you have to say
No, God Fearing means just that... fear God or you shall be.....
don't try to sugar coat the religious books...
locusts and famine, any one?
Jeff,
I agree that "god fearing" people have been behind a great deal if not most accounts of human suffering. That said, I would qualify your point by stating that there is ONE GOD who is infinitely different in character than ALL other, so called, man-invented, gods! To fear these gods leads to the practice of manipulation, intimidation, suffering etc., but to fear the one true God over all Creation, as He has been revealed in His Son, Jesus Christ, is to learn the infinite value of every human being, and to learn how deeply God loves the world and desires to deliver the world from all suffering; suffering that is a consequence of people failing to "fear" the one TRUE GOD!
W247–the decent human rights of clean food/water and to be unmolested? Where pray tell does this exist? Not even in America–not with the rampant failures in coliform testing in American cities and our problems with pedophilia, child rapist and serial murders and incest–or do we not see that huge log in our own eye?
Queen – did you miss the point when I said "All Humans....."
It's a tragedy no matter where you live that needs to be dealt with.
To amzngrc,
when you say the One True God as opposed to the man made ones, do you mean yours has a certificate of authenticity and all the others are chinese knock-offs? Or is it because you, amzngrc, can vouch for him ? By the way I am not sure your name is authentic. Cheers!!!
FLYWITHME,
I agree it's good that they are making changes & this part of India like all other 3rd world countries has alot of problems. I do believe education is the key however the 1st & foremost education they get needs to be on birth control & pregnancy prevention! These people "sell their daughters to unburden themselves", then why are they having them in the first place??? I think it's child abuse to bring children into this world that you can't afford to feed or take care of!!! How sick, I wish we could punish those who create these problems for themselves & their children.
So who would you be punishing? The government for not providing the socialist system to help get them birth control, or the men that force themselves on the woman, or the women for opting to use what little money they have to feed their families instead of purchasing birth control?
I agree. Stop having children you can not feed or properly take care of.
Nothing like extending your Tea Party rhetoric to other countries, is there?
All, Yeah, punish them all because you are angry, and clueless too. Whom are you going to punish, the parents who guided their daughter into the only path that would save her from starving to death? The woman, who would rather make $20 a day and be able to spent weeks with her family than labor from15 hours a day in the field making pennies? The customer whose patronage allows that woman to make great money? The economy of powerty? Or the Indian government for not creating socialistic system that would cover the needs of everyone in the huge country? It's easy to be angry and clueless instead of thinking and understanding.
But if you think again, there is no need to feel angry. Certain things are looked at different in different societies and it looks like there is less stigma or emotional trauma in that particular community. They are actually happy to do what they do. So what you should do instead is to patronage the trade when you are there, as the money you pay will actually go to support that 13 year old while she is in school.
Please do not confuse tradition and religion. Traditions can be based on religion and other origins as well. Some people in the past exploited innocent people and invented their own traditions. To give an example of how a tradition starts, Ganesh festivals that happen throughout India. They were started by Sri Balagangadhar Tilak. He used these festivals to bring people together for freedom fight. His intentions are good. Please do not think I am criticizing him. Today someone criticizes, Ganesh festival polluting water resources. It is right. It is not hindu religion which ask us to make these big plaster of paris idols. Scriptures talk about mud idols which are perfectly safe.
Similarly scriptures prohibits adultery. But the people are inclined towards sin. So they invent perverted tradition to satisfy them and give religious color to it
No one is confusing the two. It is merely a comparison as to how human manipulation an intimidation is rampant throughout all societies in major ways that people just do not recognize. The motivations and goals are all the same..........to have humans behave or act in a specific way (manipulation).
And BTW, I don't concur that this is all about tradition. It is about human beings manipulating others to benefit themselves, family or no family. It's the same as blaming guns for killing people when in actuality, it is people using guns to kill people.....but people with agendas will use such convenient misdirection to achieve their true goals without addressing the real underlying problem.
Now India is feeling the wrath of God for all its lawlessness and the abuse of innocent children.
yawn, not another bible thumper. Hey, is African feeling the wrath of God, with Aids, floods, curroption, and death...after all they are Christian right? BTW, God not real.
Ignorance is bliss isn't it ...when you can't come up with any logical / reasonable let's " fall back" to the age old " tradition of blaming religion for it .... it just HAS TO BE their fault ....isn"t it .......
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no one in india thinks what you and i do. I'm indian btw
Actually most of Africa is Islamic, but that is not the point. If you actually cannot feel the spirit in yourself perhaps you should meditate for awhile. Maybe daily for three years than report what you can feel.
What an idiot!
Isn't the U.S feeling the wrath of God? I thought it was....
wow ,what a hypocrite you are .don't forget that christanity was spread by SWORD. AIDS is the product of Christian malpractices
AIDS is the product of the World Health Organization.
No, AIDS was created by Hollywood, after careful customer surveys and blind tests. It was supposed to be a sure hit cure for boredom, but the producers messed it up.
Your name is "Grace." How ironic.
There is no God, it was the other way round, men created gods for there selfish uses
my brother ,the bible says only fool who say there's no God ... did u create yourself or have you created anything in these planet? please jesus loves you and he came to die for you sin repent and confess your sins to he will forgive you and set you free .............go and buy bible and read these ...ROMANS..10:9 -10, 10:13. and john ..3:16.
Jeff,you are a FOOL! , "for a fool says in his heart, there is no God! and may He have mercy on your wretched soul!
There is NO God! There I said it. Now all you bible thumpers can draw an invisible cross on your chest and hail Mary three times. Geoff is right, we created God for control. Read your history, HELLO. Remember reading about the Dark Ages anyone?
Totally agreed – there is no god! A myth designed to control the population and nothing more.
totally agree. So many people need basic history and science classes and less fairy tails about 'a creator'..
@Across12, I hope you meant "nuked", "nooked" means "f"cked." And yeah exterminating countless number of people is the most maternal of feelings I can think of, too. And shove your Jes@ss you know where.
God has nothing to dod with it..he is busy counting money bible thumpers bring in
Really? Wrath of God? I missed the 'Fire and Brimstone Devastate India' video.
you will be feeling it when you die if you do not repent. You will just regret it later.
Will I also be feeling it this Christmas, if I say there is no Santa Claus?
Can we please leave imaginary, invisible beings in the sky called "God" out of this... Trust me, this also has nothing to do with the green monster under my bed.
Would you please be a dear and go see Jesus right now? He may forgive you for your stupidity and bigotry, but it's annoying the people here who are trying to actually do something productive.
Very funny Choco-Crispy:)
Did you say the same thing about the people in Joplin after the tornadoes?
So, what you're saying is that a loving god seeks vengence upon wrong doers by selling their children into slavery? Even if I bought into the whole supreme being thing, I don't see how that behavior would be godlike.
Yup... god did it. How can you like such a great big invisible bully.
Hate to say it Red but the blame lands much closer to home.
Its Bush's fault. Remember?
@ Grace
You are an idiot. India does have a sizable population of Christians, and they have been there every since the 12th Century.
Do try and get an education. People like you really are an embarrassment to the rest of us.
wow grace, your "the wrath of god" comment just sent our country back a couple hundred years. congrats.
there is no god .. just barbaric stupid people living in the stone age
I am an Indian, and frankly speaking, Northern India is pretty much a Hindu version of Pakistan. I am least bit surprised that people have been harnessing Religion to make twisted to corrupt innocent minds. Sometimes its a twisted version of fringe Hinduism, sometimes evangelical meta-Christianity and sometimes Islam. Its all the same. What you need is a revolution that involves freeing minds and breaking the shackles imposed by the social order, whatever that is. Not a one off project like this one ...
awesome. you guys never miss an opportunity to bash Pakistan
He was bashing radical Hinduism by comparing it to Pakistan. What's wrong with that? What do you want to compare it to? Generalize and say Islam?
flywithme, I think it would make more sense.
Pakistan isn't filthy like indian culture and unhuman religious traditions of it. Sati and Devdasi are just two of the most inhuman tradition on the face of this earth. Sure indian economy is growing fast but fruits of it only stay in urban areas.
You mean, routine blowing up daily is somehow superior to non-existent or minimal occurance of sati? I read the first one daily in cnn and have not read the latter ever. Anycase, Thnks for enlightment.
AJ, are you forgetting honor killing and oppression of women in general in PAKISTAN??? Pakistan ke sirf NAAM mein PAK hai – baaki sab GANDA hai...
Monty at PAKISTAN ka Naam mein tu PAK hai hi means Pure n clean but india is UNPAK dirty with hindus GANDEE, n nuge...
SATHI and DEVDASIS are a forgotten history of hindu religion my friend. Hihdus compromise on religion if it is good for human kind. Will the Muslims and Christains do that. You stick on to your books written thousands of years ago, even if it is stupid and inhuman. No wonder why Muslims and Christains are fighting , be it in the name of iraq, afghanistan, libya or pakistan. Let your GOD save you guys.Stop insulting hindus for what they believe in. They are better off than people of other religions. Wonder why India has become a world power growing faster than any other country in the world
india or pakistan or sri lanka or bangladesh or iran or any of the asian countries. All have self-esteem issues and feel inferior to caucasians. These countries are the highest users of fairness creams. So a paki bashing an indian or vice-versa is meaningless. They both will spread their legs wide open when it comes to a fair looking person. allah aur ram sirf naam ke liye b*****h. gore aadmi ke macchar hai yeh sab.
abe pakistinio, tumahra pakistan india ke gand se nikla tha. bhul gaye kay. Also when you curse hindusim remember your fore fathers were hindu. You guys are the one who did not have the guts to fiight the arabs, bent over and converted nothing else.
Sati is banned and Hindus are fighting to get rid of the devadasi culture. Unfortunately, the practise of having 4 wives, marrying 9 yr olds to 50 year old men is still encouraged in some religion. Unfortunately I don't remember which religion that is. Can anyone please enlighten?
@hifriends India surely hasn't has not become a world contender because of Hinduism.
Do you know that in most of the rural areas in Pakistan, if a girl comes out without covering her face, her husband/father/brother cuts her body parts (may be ear, a hand or breast). Everyone around knows who did that including the police, but nobody raises voice because it is right in that society. And yes, it happens even today.
I am not favoring Sati tradition of India, but that used to happen ages ago and sure was completely wrong based on some rediculous customs/beliefs.
Flawed_prophecy: This story is about South India and not northern India.
Dear Faraz,
Please get your geography right. Bharatpur, the place in question is in Rajasthan, a western state .
Rajasthan is not in South India view in Indian map . don't be fool.
What is "a Hindu version of Pakistan" if not India itself? You are the same people. India was slit up in three in the 1940s whereby the eastern and western cutoffs where done in order to create a new nation for muslims – Pakistan. Then millions of people fled back and forth in a kind of civil war just to end up in the country embracing their religion. (Later East Pakistan broke away from Pakistan and changed its name to Bangladesh.)
Muslims have always been barbaric. They were ruthless and barbaric when they came to india.... they wiped out an entire culture and way of life destroying temples.... In fact they have destroyed a great culture, a shame...
Instead of coming here as humane beings and living in harmony this is all they did... They continue to remain barbaric (in pakistan and Afgan)... Sorry to say this... but this is reality. Its time for them to start being more human!!!
Just to add to what I said, in some sense muslim invasions into india has left its imprint of barbarism on North India. South was a bit lucky... It looks like N india took the brunt of muslim invasions and this has corrupted the northern culture to some extent... Oh dear why did u muslims arrive into india!!!
@Flawed_prophecy: Why single out Northern India? Is castesim not widely prevalent in the Southern India? India does not need to be compared to Pakistan or any other nation – Indians themselves generate enogh hatred towards their fellow citizens in the name of traditon, religion, communalism, etc. Oh, when will my India rise above all this? BTW, Kudos to Anil Kapoor for all that he is doing to bring about change.
I think ur assumption is flawed , i hope that u remember the AP Maoists and the Tamil brahmins not letting the lower caste to enter the temples or even more the hatred of Hindi , come to the North India no one will tell you that u came to north so u must speak hindi but come south they will let you know that Hindi is not allowed to be spoken in South. Man it is because of u guys only we are unable to overcome this kind of problems . I hope that people like you shud stay away from India , Anyway Hats off to Anil and CNN for the work they are doing.
The troll got you good didn't he. Northy southy is started on indian boards by paki trolls. same philosophy here.
all the sub human sand rats should be exterminated. you treat people like animals, you live in squaller ... you are barbaric rats
I just think the world is onfair, some people just have too much , while othe done have, money should be limited to mankind, one love more blessing
Barbarians!! Everyone of them!! The class divide is still a very real issue in India. Thanks a lot Anil Kapoor for bringing this heinous crime to light. Why cant the receivers of such service be charged with pedophilia?
They would be, if they are caught by an honest cop that is.
Some want to blame *all* religion, while others think tradition and religion is untouchable and sacred.
But, there's good religion (Jesus religion) and bad, false religion (everything else).
The world is the way it is partly because people cannot the above basic truth.
There is no one true religion, and as long as people believe there is, there will always be strife and crimes against humanity.
Christians have blood on their hands too, and have had some very perverse practices in their history.
As long as people continue to believe that their beliefs and that their religion is the only true one there will continue to be problems, wars, cruelty, and enslavement.
When people believe that their faith is right, and the only one that is true, they cannot accept others as equals, and this creates more rifts and more class warfare and prejudice.
Jesus religion is good and eveything else bad Tom?? haha tht itself shows sick mentality of you people....
Dear Tom, kindly see the news article researched by the BBC. You do not have to respond, i think it answers your delusional comment.http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/reports/archive/features/paedophile_priests.shtml
Tom you Jesus religion is evil, the only good religon is Satan
"But, if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are LOST: In whom the god of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the gloriuos gospel (good news) of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." I pray Geoff for your LOST soul!
Geoff, is there is no God, then how did you come up with the concept there is a satan? c'mon man!
no gods, just stupid barbaric sand rats that need to be exterminated
Tom seems to be a simple minded fellow with blinders on. I rejected all religion 50 years back over just this point – it shows the total falsity of all religions when they say, 'I am right and you are wrong'.
Myths perpetuated by the rulers to keep the population in line.
Typical religionist can't even speak properly, let alone think propertly.
Tom, where is your proof that your religion is the "good" religion? cause I have seen a lot of proof that ALL religions are good AND bad.
Quit acting like this doens't happen in the good ol' USA, BECAUSE IT DOES. Why doesn't CNN do a piece on that too?
Of course it does, but this shouldn't be ignored either
It should be reprimanded wherever it happens. Doesn't matter if it happens in US or not, it is extremely shameful that it happens in our country. There is nothing wrong with shedding light on the issue. What you are doing is equivalent to getting angry at the tester for pointing out a fault in your system. How ridiculous is that?!
I think CNN does do that. Before coming to US and starting to read CNN on a regular basis, I had no idea that US and Europe was so full of molester priests or that there existed cults where the cult's church leader had multiple wives and got married to your women. Way to go CNN –you certainly are not biased here.
sorry one more time : it has to do with poverty, it's not only India which is concerned, but all these countries around in south east asia, south asia, well the women in the eastern countries are not raised to think by themselves, in the very poor class they are the slave of the mother in law, not to speak of the husband, and even in the middle class she needs the approval of the husband, they don"'t really manage their money when they have it; it's changing in the big cities but mostly it's the man's law, forget about the western theory of independance for woman;
True...it has a lot to do with poverty, and using religion and tradition to control people (women).
What's more humiliating and miserable: living in utter poverty on less than $1 a day, or work like them for $20 a day?
I don't have the answer.
They are both degrading to the basic human soul. What's the fix? To have more respect for each other as God's creation. To see each other as God see's us – equal in His eyes, not better then one or another.
Or to come to the realization that there is no god, and it is up to ourselves to create and maintain equality, and to stop using god as a crutch.
Alyssa – Great! Please do find it in yourself, find the resources that you can to go help these people, whether or not you believe in the Lord! Thank you for your concern!
Anil Kapoor is a Slumdog himself...trying to garner attention of the Westerners...This crook was also close to Dawood Ibrahim. D.I. is on Forbes' World's top 10 Most Wanted criminals...Google for their pics at cricket matches in Sharjah...
sure if only a picture is worth 1000 words....wonder what u got to say with US ex-prez posing for cameras with Saudi leaders (fundamentalists)....Anil posing with DI was a case of underworld having (had) a vice like grip on Anil's industry (films) at that time ('80s)...all were required to bow or else experience the worst....thanks to Indian police (mostly) the scenario has improved...
The other thing I can't stand is when western society worry about poverty and suffering around the world, but have serious issues where immigration is concerned. In a western world with resources and land abound, it is downright evil that we don't allow millions of those who suffer around the world, to enjoy what we have, with no questions asked. The western world, is a stolen world, and there is nothing that we can't share that will end up killing us if we do. In fact, America's take take take untiil there is so much debt, is what is now destroying that nation, overwanting and undersharing, God sees.
I agree with you. God charges us to take care of the orphans, the children, the widows, the poor, the hungry. Yet as a people over all we are doing a poor job of that. You will find some organizations that are doing what the Lord asks them to do, but as a people in general we are very poor in spirit.
I found the Christian peoples in India to be poor physically but very rich spiritually.
Are you one of those religious converts who converted in India from an intellectual religion to one that does not believe in evolution and tries to sweep Darwin's theory as false propaganda?
Because the US is full of Christians. Being kind only works on Sunday. They don't have to do it right this time... once Jesus died they got a free pass. They'll get into those pearly gates! They can be as rude and horrible and ignorant as they want. Kind of like every god fearing religion.
Reddragon – I agree with you, it is a shame that Christians in the US have missed the mark on understanding the message of the gospel. When it fills you, you can't sit still and do nothing or just be a "Sunday Christian". His Spirit convicts you, moves you and breaks your heart for those things that break His.
By and large people in the US donate more that any other people. there are so many billionaire's who have donated substantial wealth to chairity. I have not seen any Indian or Red chinese do that. doe's that mean the chinese are so heartlesly stingy because of communism?
ALL religious people are mentally ill on some level, the more devote you are to your brand of crazy, the more dangerous you are to all living things, this includes Christians and you dirty pakis and indians who worship elephants and goats and stuff
Nutley – all PEOPLE regardless if they are religious or not suffer from some kind of mental disability...
2 thoughts: having worked with well-educated Indian males, ages 20-somethings thru mid-40s, I can testify they are raised/taught the male is superior, women are to serve and when a male want something it is the duty of the woman to provide it. One very young man insisted I sell him my car because he liked it and didn;t want to exert himself looking for his own. I told him. nicely but firmly, this was USA and women here didn't follow India rules, and to find his own car..
2nd, the broadbashing I see about various religions are beside the point: the core issue is, very young girls R sold for profit. In many cultures girls R cnsidered throw-away commodities (China, nearly all the Middle East nations, et al). I find it ironic since males cannot create and nurture life in their bodies, only females can do this and yet girl children are not as desireable or as treasured as the all-important son.
In the first paragraph 'trying to' was repeated.
"...Anil Kapoor shows how Indian charities are trying to trying to stop the tradition."
This is very very bad and it contrary to the doctrine of our Lord Jesus Christ the only Son of God....that Devdasi is a woman from devil not from God...go and read the Holy Bible....the best solution for that community is to preached the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ for them. For them to turn away form their wicked deed..because bible say anybody found in any doctrine that is not of Jesus Christ will fined is path in the lake of fire at the last day...repent for the day of the Lord is near near.
if only you could see that this is primarily a social issue (practices), and keep Hinduism, Christianity out of it.
I wish these idiots would keep Islam and Christianity out of it as well. This is and completely a sociel issue not a religious one simply because its just "Tradition".
You do of course realize that if you were born in the middle east you would be reciting the Qoran or whatever other book or rules they have been brainwashed with, right? The chances of you being Christian if you were born in another place is slim to none. Religion is the biggest hoax known to man. It's just silly to believe in something when there is zero proof of it's existence. If you wer born in UTAH the chances of your parents telling you from birth that you are a Mormon and you believing all of the Mormon story is very high. In Utah most churches are Mormon and the "wierd" little Baptist or Methodist Churches are considered just that "wierd".. Whereas, if you are from the bible belt you are more likely to be Baptist or Methodist and the few Mormon churches are considered "weird". How do you know see that religion is nothing but brainwashing a bunch of silly rules and stories into innocent childrens heads and demanding that they believe it.
The persecuted church in other countries where the name of Christ is not even allowed to be spoken is much greater than most even know. Your comment about how people who are born in other countries have a "slim to none" chance of being a Christian is simply false. Just because they are unable to proclaim their love and belief of Jesus does not mean it does not exist.
"Religion' is a set of beliefs based on a creed, tradition or organized dogma; as such, you are right: there is no proof. But to confuse "religion" with belief in a Supreme Intelligence is a flawed comparison, and intellectually lazy. The very complex and detailed elements of our physical environs, both on earth and in the cosmos, should prompt all of us to be less assertive in our puny assumptions of universal independence.
He's not "our" lord. Speak for yourself.
So true the only way to heaven is through our Lord and Savior Jesus christ. I believe that we are in our last days. I believe that if you read the book of Revelation it show you that everything that is happening right now in this world was told to us in this chapter of the Holy Bible. If you do dont repent of your sins and are not baptize in the name of Jesus Christ and confess that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior you will not enter heaven. This is not a joke. May God Bless us all.
stop this crapy thing..ur talking about bible.
Again, another typical religionist that can't even speak properly, let alone think properly. Pathetic.
Israel Peter, are you a peasant or a surf? Only these people have lords.
This kind of culture needs to be clarified with the action dialogue with all elements of society concerned with the supervision of a responsible party, in this case religious leaders, government and society by examining the teachings of which states that in order to avoid misunderstandings in the conduct of religious teachings . because we are all know if no religion anywhere in the world that teach things that are not good and true.
are u sure??certainly sure of that??but this is not a religion it is a dumbed culture of ancient uncivilisized moron creatures.
we need to cherich what we have and thanks for our parents to give us a comfortalbe envioronment with full education
This shall be a new topic discussed on http://www.ipaidabribe.com
This discussing but also the fact that in Pakistan they take mostly baby girls and kill them & leave the bodies in thr trash dumps, is absoluty horrible. The fact that theses practices isnt important to the law. I dont have a answer for these horrible traditions, but if I can do anything to help these babies and children please let me know, will do my best... Thank you for all persons trying to stop these practices... GOD BLESS ALL
It is interesting that no one seems to address the most serious underlying problem which is uncontrolled population growth! India, unlike China has simply refused to address the issue in any comprehensive or consistent manner (although Indira Gandhi addressed the issue directly). Reduce the population growth rates and children will no longer be considered 'disposable'!
HI,
You are bang on target .India can at the most support 200- 300 million people but there are 1.2 billion and counting . no wonder 80 or is it 90% of India is very poor . Only the south and west to so extent looks ok, but north india is mostly like pakistan and afghanistan in every sense , the only difference are the Gods .The so called Hindi belt and the bengalis have a population of nearly a billion .North east india and if you include pakistan and bangladesh beats somalia and sahara in human misery.
Hi Anil .
i think you are just plain ignorant and nothing else.. Punjab in norther india is richest in per capital income .. Tribal areas in Andra pradesh and southern tamil nadu are the poorest even vidharb which is in Maharashtra is one of the poorest region
Please do not have dividing politics on basis of region ..
whole india has problem ...but the good thing is that we are going into right direction
but the fact remains that resources are finite and there are too many people. best would be to issue a permit of maximum 2 children ignoring all the religious objections ( Muslim or Hindu)
Sorry No Can Do on the Birth Control – Jesus don’t like BC – or so The Pope said!!!
This kind of tradition is common in all human societies without permeant Biblical Christian tradition. Christian missionaries with some Western powers abolished most of them but some pagans still keep the evil to this day. The concept of the God-given human dignity and everyone's equality under God is strictly Christian. Secularism would keep this kind of practice as a "culture" to preserve.
No, I doubt that "secularists" would intentionally wish to preserve this part of a culture. However, given a secularist's commitment to science, would probably use whatever clout (power) they have within academia to produce scientific evidence to "prove" it is in the best interest of the people to stop the practice. In the end, the secularist uses a form of power as does any religious follower/leader. It is with situations like the one in this article that show the limit to the goal for objectivity via scientific research. Some things we just know are not good....despite what the results of well funded research may or may not say. Another example, how is science going to tell us that incest is wrong?
Right, it's time for another crusade. You round up the knights. I'll dust off the torture devices.
You should read the book of Habakkuk.
LOL, nice reference, but I doubt they will get it.
Right. Secularists like seeing 13 year old girls raped and thrust into a never ending spiral of poverty and disease. That's exactly the world we have in mind.
Alyssa – Where do you get your morality from?
Not trying to be antagonistic, just trying to understand.
@W247
I think Alyssa is being sarcastic.
Well W247 – most of us non-insane people don’t need fairly tales and “the fear of god” to make us do the right thing. But, the most right-wing, mega-church, so-called Christians won’t feed the poor or help the sick because their god (The GOP) said it was a bad thing called – S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M.
Robert -Atlanta
And when was the last time you checked into the social programs of your local church to see what they are doing for their community? Or are you just generally being a jerk for the fun of it?
"permeant"?
Again, another typical religionist that can't even speak properly, let alone think properly. Pathetic.
"This kind of tradition is common in all human societies without permeant Biblical Christian tradition. Christian missionaries with some Western powers abolished most of them but some pagans still keep the evil to this day. The concept of the God-given human dignity and everyone's equality under God is strictly Christian."
You couldn't be farther from the truth Christianna. There are no laws of dignity or equality in Christianity Christianna. All of the laws you mistaken for Christian laws were kidnapped along with Jesus from what you call Judaism. Jesus said none of those laws would pass away or change until the end of heaven and earth. Whoever was to teach contrary to those laws would be the least in Heaven. That would make your apostle Paul a liar, a fraud, the least in the kingdom of heaven and your religion a cult with no foundation.
And in the movie, boys were blinded and forced to beg. Can we stop making all the tragedies only about women? And makei t about people?
Can we stop thinking that "forced to beg" is on par with a dozen daily rapes of a 13 year old girl?
Can we acknowledge that permanently handicapping a young boy to beg is pretty darned bad, too? A girl can eventually escape from the rapes, horrible as they are. Blinding is forever.
"...can escape from the rapes..."
I am going to assume that you really didn't put much thought into that statement. There are typically physical and emotional scars that go along with being brutally raped. A rapist probably isn't thinking about your comfort during the act. Then if you are lucky enough to have him leave you alone afterwards, you can then hope that you didn't just get pregnant, or catch a disease, or since you were so young, you weren't ripped horribly in places that weren't meant to be ripped.
Now, both scenarios are horrible – being purposely blinded or purposely raped.
@MagnoliasAndMolotovs So if they took young boys and let men use them in the same way would you say, "oh well the boy could eventually escape that"
Americans, having a short memory and being cradled in the sane Protestant Christian intelligence from the beginning, do not recall how human societies instinctively treat women and children and anyone with disadvantages. Americans should stop attacking Christianity since it's the only good thing they have.
Islam is the only religion that has written laws to protect young girls and boys. Not following is one thing but the reality is to live in modesty as prescribed in Islam to achieve a better society. Those people of extremist mindset are not considered to be real Muslims.
What an easy out. Muslim societies have one of the overall worst treatment of women on planet Earth, so you just don't admit that they are "real" Muslims. Soooo, when the Afgans use young boys as lovers, they are not "real" Muslims. When Saudi Arabia won't let women drive or wear normal clothes, they must not be "real" Muslims. If Muslim women who complain of rape are then blamed for it and whipped or killed, it must not be by "real" Muslims. If an Arab girl dishonors her family by talking to an unmarried man too long, it's okay to kill her, as long as your not a "real" Muslim.
Great Reply and very true too...
hey Wendy you hater of ISLAM the people you talking about yes they are not following true Islam. the example you gave all are nothing to do with Islam. Saudi govt. not let drive women that what to do with Islam? honor kiiling is nothing to do with Islam.young boy as toy boy in Afghnistan is Isalmic? Please go and study then you make such a idiotic commnet. your are showing pure hate and ignorant toward Islam. Shekhar more then 200 million Muslim in India are muslim women driving? yes. are any honor killing in inida? NO. are Muslim boy are toy boy? NO. If you do not like Islam thats your choice but do not lie about .
Bull Wendy, irregardless to what you say the facts are just that facts. Religion is defined by it's people and not the people defined by the religion. Religion is a written doctrine that can't be or shouldn't be changed. At least Islam is, I know Christianity changes its doctrine whenever to be in tune with its followers. Judaism's elders have done the same when they have made it official to ignore certain doctrines of the faith. When people choose to practice their own form of Islam then yes they are not Muslims. The word Muslims itself defines the behavior of those who practice the faith. If that behavior is outside of the tenets of the faith then how can you hold religion responsible for behavior of those who are practicing contrary to the faith? You can't so your opinion is very moronic.
"Religion is defined by it's people and not the people defined by the religion." Actually, I meant to be the other way around that you can't hold the religion accountable for the actions of fallible humans.
in great India, every year almost 1 million baby girl are slaughter by their parents, just because they don't want to give dowry or divide the property.
so how many religion you have studied?
Plenty, however, it doesn't take the study of any religion to realize common sense.
Anil Kapoor is here for attentions and some fame, where was he for last 30 years when was a top celebrity of India ? how come he suddenly become so concerned about those 'untouchables', hypocrite !
Celebrates and riches in India never shows any concerns about the poor class unless they have something to gain from it
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I don't care why somebody does something good, just that they are doing something good. Let's all start by doing good things for each other just to show off. It would be an immediate improvement over the global hate we spew at each other in these comment sections. 🙂
Basically humans are cruel, dont blame religion,country or region..
Yea well human do horrible things in the name of religion as a way to get away with it... Take the religious "crutch' away and then people can be held accountable for thier actions...period! Religion lets them get away with it.
Most religions profess peace. it is only the humans who have twisted them because of they are cruel.
Its is not only India and also judgement must not be delivered from a western perspective. other cultures like here in Papua New Guinea have similar connotations. it is when western culture clash with prevailing culture that such mutation of social behaviour and practices come into play.Education and patience can break this deadlock because such practices are centuries old.
Paul Moses – thank you for your work in PNG, I am sure you are striving to help out there. I have friends that are traveling that way in a few days.
what a shocking story!!
What a idiot, the only use I can a bible might come in handy for if I was to run out of toilet paper
@geoff wood: Becareful of what you say! God cannot be mocked.
GOD created of the heaven and the earth is VERY REAL!!! He was there b4 the world was form.....he reigns forever and ever amen if you are created in his imagine and u do not believe in him and u rejected him u will go to Hell and everlasting torment ............ folks please repent from you satanic thought and follow our Holy father God of isreal.and u will be save and live everlasting life in heaven.
Okay just alil bit of information for you.....IF SOMEONE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD THEY SURE DONT BELIEVE IN SATAN!!! DUMB PEOPLE!!!! OH AND YOU NEED TO GET YOURSELF INTO THE HISTORY BOOKS AND LEARN A THING OR TWO ABOUT HOW YOUR RELIGION PICKED PIECES OF IT'SELF OUT OF THE PAGAN RELIGION....AND NO THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN THE DEVIL EITHER!!!!! YOU PEOPLE ARE BRAIN WASHED AND IT'S SO SAD, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU! DO YOU THINK SANTA CLAUS IS REAL TOO???? LOL
What you forget to understand is that just because someone creates a holiday and proclaims it to part of a religion does that truly make it religious when there is no authorization for it? There is no pope in the bible and yet there is one. Just because its dedicated to GOD doesnt mean its what he wants. Also you people who want to talk all this crap about religion dont have a clue about what most religions even speak about. Its amazing when people say that Christianity caused all that suffering during the dark ages because of the church and yet forget that Christ never forced anyone to believe in him. Man is to blame for its stupidity not GOD. Often times we can easily do the right thing but we choose not to. Thats our fault and not his. Once you understand right and wrong you make a choice. My job is not to make you believe in my faith. I only ask that you respect my choices as I respect your choices. What many of you say if foolish and underterminedly rude but it seems even with all the schooling and knowledge today its has made many of you barbaric rather than enlightened. Even many of the philosophers had to conclude there was a GOD during their research. To me GOD helps those who helps themselves. You can pray all day for something but If you havent done all you can to make it happen then why should GOD help you? Pray and then go to work.
It's so sad, how this is the tradition that they hold on to. With the strides Kapoor is taking, it will be eradicated in due time. Undeniably, he's taken a step in the right direction. Education is the key.
Fool it was the otherway round man created God
Geoff, did you come to this theory on your own or did you pay someone to mislead you? how do you know there is no God? I know there's one, as He wakes me every morning and I see magnificent creation.
So your god is an alarm clock?
Look we could say the same to YOU!!! How do you know there is a God? YOU DO NOT!!! All YOU know is what someone told you, YOU had to believe. Can you even think for yourself??? I was raised in a baptist chruch...GUESS WHAT...I HAVE A BRAIN OF MY OWN AND CAN THNK FOR MYSELF, IT'S A GREAT FEELING TRY IT SOMETIME!!
Yet again, religion raises its ugly head.
Dont blame human cruelty and frailty on religion.
girls are not only meant for commercial purposes. she is only building of the present society in the way they built up future of the tommorow's citizens. u need to money for ur food and etc., and also the country needs educated one. everything is inter-related corruption needs to be stopped .support anna hazare we may fight for evils of society.
You are right on target. We cannot change the past but we can correct the future.
I've just read every SINGLE comment and come away feeling that 90% of readers simply hate the thought of loving each other. EGOS, EGOS, EGOS!! We should stop fighting one another and start learning from one another. Observation is key. I don't believe in religion, all it does is cloud the truth and relegate the minds to modern day slavery. LOVE is what we should try to accomplish. Nevermind the EGO. I feel sad for all you willing to even fight eachother here on an opinions board. Some truly have a long way to go. One Love, One Human Race.
Despite the fact the so claimed one of the emerging super world economies ,India lags in many/several social/cultural/economic/financial aspects in confront to so many other developing countries. Only a very few I would say 99%++++ of the population is poverty stricken and is deprived with many basis requirements. Truly speaking India is still a under developed country and will take decades to reach the so called alfa state.
Economically speaking, India is what is called a "developing country" and I would say that 99% of the population is indeed not under the poverty line. The standard of living has taken a turn for the better in the past few decades, and although the gap between the rich and the poor is large, I feel the government is aware of this and is now burdened with the daunting task of rectifying this socioeconomic problem. But the country is not all made up of rural villages and farmers, etc. like most non-Indians like to believe. Yes, the absolute number of people in poverty is high, but we must look at the income distribution of the population (meaning percentages).
Furthermore, see the distribution of the U.S.'s income. The gap between the rich and poor is large and has been increasing due to the recent economic downturn.
David you are correct, my grandfather left India in the early 1900's for Kenya in search for a better life, and he did find one, now we have 2 generations that were born in Kenya including myself, having visited countries such as Australia, Canada, I can clearly say that India is a few generations away from being developed on all levels.
Though I must say that they have made a good deal of progress, but one must not stop and admire it, rather carry on with it till they achieve their intended goal of transforming poverty, bringing in equality...
Religion is not necessary to have good ethics or lead an altruistic lifestlye. Quite possibly just the opposite is preferable.
Guys u need to watch ur utterances about Allah and his religion! Get educated on the true tenents of islam.islam has go answers to all human problems 'cos its a positive way of life. Dnt judge the disgruntled few by the true followers! Be warned, do not incure the wrath of God.
"Incure", really?
Psst...that's INCUR.
And from where i come from, God is all loving and all forgiving. Haven't you gotten the newsflash yet?
Incredible!!!!!!! These families, are using the word tradition??? They just love the money that is comming in to the household. These people should be ashame of themselves. And God bless those young girls I really hope that they finish school, I know a bright future awaits for them.
Yesterday I was studying religious studies, and thats when I realized Indias traditional caste system is also a total manipulation of keeping people under religious class control, in reality there is no such thing as low caste and higher caste, it was created for manipulation and to control the masses.
I hope Indians wake up and realize the messages that Buddha, Mahavir,... when they say the caste system was wrong and should be abolished immediately.
(BTW my own religion is Jainism)
Sorry to tell you that this is absolutely incorrect. The caste system has a CLEAR religious basis which can be seen in the Vedas. In the Rig Veda (the first scripture of Hinduism, containing spiritual and scientific knowledge) it says that the universe was created out of the parts of the body of a single cosmic man Purusha when his body was sacrificed. There the four classes (varnas) of Indian society come from his body: the priest (Brahmin) from his mouth, the warrior (Kshatritya) from his arms, the peasant (Vaishya) from his thighs, and the servant (Shudra) from his legs. If you don't believe me, I welcome you to read a (good) translation of the Hindu religious texts. I am not religious myself, but I would never comment about a facet of someone else's religion without doing some preliminary research. I suggest you do the same.
By the way, this does not mean I agree with the caste system (despite being Brahmin). However, my point is to clarify that it is written in our religious scripture.
The key is interpretation. Even if a class or caste was "created" there's nothing to support it being a DNA-based group. Why should children be born into the same caste as their parents. Maybe the Hindu text was meant to be a bit more esoteric in it's meaning, perhaps it was the mind of the person that was "caste" or died to be in a specific group. So by re-incarnation the same person could be born into the family of another caste. After all the karma may cause souls to get entangled via blood relations too. So people born in the same family may not be necesarily be of the same caste. My point is, the esoteric meaning of caste (which was a spiritual thing) has been abused to mean something physical (blood related), to force slavery on entire families and populations whereas a even a Shudra can give birth to a Brahmin and vice versa, since the real caste was in the non-physical (mind) rather than DNA (blood).
The point is that someone (a person, not a god) who had power a long time ago wrote this story to manipulate the masses into doing what they want to do. Just because it is in your "Scriptures" doesn't mean a thing. Leaders, religious or otherwise, have used oppression and lack of education to control the masses, at the same time enjoying all of the fruits their society has to offer at the expense of the same people they exploit. Christianity has one of the worst records of all. The Crusades, Imperialism and now the World Bank...all vehicles to exploit the "3rd World"...in the name of religion.
REG,
I don't know where you got the information that the concept of caste includes that it is "passed on through DNA". (Again, I am not defending the caste system, I am trying to understand your seemingly skewed perception of it. I agree it is detrimental to society, and a bit backwards.) I will try to explain the caste system and its relation to reincarnation.
If an individual who is born to parents who are both Kshatriya (I am using Kshatriya as an arbitrary example) acquires good karma by doing good deeds in his lifetime, he will be reborn into something better. This can mean a variety of things. He can "progress" without necessarily being reborn into a higher caste. It may be that he is born into a more educated family, perhaps a more affluent family, etc. If you want to take the word "progress" to mean that he will be born into a higher caste, then he will be born into a family where his parents are Brahmin, therefore, he is also Brahmin. Your statement "the same person can be born into a family of another caste" is correct. Caste is not something that can be tied to the soul. AND I would like to say, no where in the Vedas, Upanishads, etc. does it say that caste is eternal and tied to the soul. If "God" wants you to be born into a higher caste, or even a lower caste, then you will be born into whichever family. It has nothing to do with DNA..(not that it would matter because theoretically your DNA would be different in each lifetime/birth). To reiterate, Indians do not think that caste is a rank which stays with the soul. Your experiences in this life are limited to this life, and the point of each rebirth is to accrue good karma by doing good deeds and striving for a certain level of enlightenment.
PM,
I beg to differ a bit. Though I agree in general that ORGANIZED religion often involves a hierarchy which results in the top tier exploiting the lower tier/s, the fact that the Hindu caste system is in our religious texts (written approximately 1700 BC to 1100BC) provides direct evidence that there is a basis for the caste system and that it was not made up as the religion progressed and became modernized. The point that God Himself (and whether or not he exists is not really the point of my argument) did not write the religious text is irrelevant, as this is the case in all religions (i.e. the Bible was not written by God, nor was the Quran, etc.). Usually it is understood that religious scripture is “passed down” by God via some method (be it a burning bush, or what have you).
Additionally, a Brahmin does not benefit from an individual being a lower caste. By this I mean to say that the highest class does not exploit a lower class (for example, Kshatriyas) in any way. We do not have slavery or exclude them from public places or segregate our community as such. However, we are not supposed to intermarry. This “rule,” if you will, does not benefit us in any way. We get no benefit from having a “higher” status/caste than others. Thus, we do not exploit them, as there is no gain from the caste system. (Especially not in modern India; a millennia ago or so there may have been strictly made distinctions between the groups about lower castes becoming “priests” as I don’t believe non-Brahmins were allowed to perform religious rituals which were strictly outlined in religious texts. However, this does not mean we benefited from this. For example, Brahmin priests did not exploit those who could not perform the rituals themselves (lower castes) by charging money, etc. Similarly, some occupations were more commonly performed by higher castes, usually the ones requiring higher education. But like I said, Brahmins did not force Kshatriyas to be warriors or Vaishyas to be merchants. Again, this was much before the British came.)
I would say there is an exception where it is not necessarily that the upper castes benefited, but rather that the lower castes generally became limited to manual labor type jobs. This is not to say there weren’t higher caste individuals doing these jobs as well. I am referring to the Sudras who were mostly agriculturalists and laborers. Conversely, this does not mean that Brahmins were at the top, occupationally speaking. Kshatriyas were actually the Kings and royal people on the continent (having most of the political power and riches), while Brahmins were priests and teachers and usually lived quite modestly. So it was the second highest caste that had the power.
The other exception is the Untouchables (now called Dalits) who are actually not really considered part of the caste system. They were eschewed from society as people often viewed them as lepers or some such other nonsense. As they were not mentioned in our Vedas, etc, I will refrain from further comment on this point. But as you see, being a Brahmin (highest caste) does not mean you have all the political power or financial power. It is more likely a Kshatriya (2nd highest caste) will be in that position.
Of course in modern society (let us disregard absolutely rural areas for the moment, as the caste system is the least of their worries) in India, many people if not half or more no longer follow the rule about intermarriage. They basically either get arranged marriages (which can be based on caste if the parents want, but are more often based on the individual’s education, family background, and stability) or individuals meet, fall in love, and get married regardless of caste or language.
Last words.. “whoever” wrote the Vedas, Upanishads, etc.. probably did not think of exploitation as the basis for the caste system (I am going with your assumption that no religious text has a divine source). I would assume (after having read the scholarly translations) that they were probably high. And I am a Brahmin Hindu who has not only studied the religion at the university level, but has also visited India numerous times and witnessed every day interactions! If you read the translation, you will notice the mention of “Soma” which I am inclined to think induces hallucinations or euphoria when burnt (which of course is required for many ancient rituals that only holyholyholy priests in the south of India still adhere to). Does that mean I don’t pray? No, I still do, because of Pascal’s Wager (a philosophical argument about God) and family beliefs. But I digress. My point is, Brahmins aren’t running around forming political parties and telling Sudras to come clean our toilets. We don’t exploit them, as this would accrue negative karma, defeating the goal of multiple births.
And sorry this is ridiculously long. Apparently, biochemistry couldn’t keep my attention today.
mOnin873, You miss my point. Let me give an example what I mean: A Kshatriya father can have a Brahmin son. Or a Brahmin father can give birth to an "untouchable". So caste is neither DNA nor Soul based. It is non-material rank based on the values one's karma (actions/deeds). So a relative high or good parent can give birth to a lesser person and vice versa, depending on the very individual person's actions, and therefore his destiny or perhaps any sort of caste (in whatever level) that is at all distinguishable. Thanks for your detailed reply by the way.
You misunderstand the point of the purusha sukta. It is not to enforce class system but to proclaim that everything arose from the one. Not only the classes of humans, but the sun, the moon, the devas and everything arose from this purusha. In fact, I would argue that this verse promotes equality since we all arose from one.
Caste was a very generic classification same way as we have doctors, politicians, actors, farmers etc, today. In ancient India the differentiation was more broad. Whether you see it or not, the generic caste system exists everywhere – the thinkers/planners are the brahmins, the soldiers are the kshatriya, the business owner/ entrepreneurs are the vaishyas and the workers/employees are the shudras. But this classification is based upon a person's qualifications/trainings/nature. The upanishads and bhagavad gita too are very clear in that its is the qualities and nature of a person that define his caste not birth.
You may say it is written in the Vedas, but then again who wrote the Vedas, with what intention, who is following the original teachings of the Vedas, once the Vedas were destroyed who recalled it from his memory and wrote and told us exactly as the original was.
Thank you for pointing out the direction correlation between human suffering and religious ideas, doctrines, and practices. I wish more people could see religion for the danger it really is to innocent children and those with little education. Thanks!
Yes, completely agree. There is no such caste system in Christianity / Jewish / Muslim or other religions. Does it mean they have a different God? All Great Men and particularly Saints have said that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL !! So "Caste-ism" is just a brain child of some evil Hindu religious leader. And the proof is that All men are equal in physical and mental attributes/features etc. and scientifically our DNA is the same.
But if you do manage to mock him, be careful, otherwise Zeus will strike you down with his lightning!
DISGRACEFUL.
That entire country needs a boot in the head and booted right into the 21st century - and that goes for every "tradition" and anti-woman "cutuural thing" that they have.
That includes the caste system, segregating themselves from other races (they keep to themselves and do not mix) genital mutilation for women and marrying daughters off for primarily a MONETARY reason.
We have a relatively large Asian Indian population in our town.– they have steadfastly refused to mix with our town on many things, even if it is *only* a street fair sponsored by the town, a town wide cultura event like a free concert or a holiday tree lighting celebration. They won't even attend shows presented by our local community artists.
When in ROME is the motto - again, blame this on not living in the 21st century. It's most annoying.
They can keep to themselves .. That's fine with me!!
This slavery is masquerading as a tradition. Perhaps due to extenuating factors like poverty, this started out as a combination of greed & helplessness, but spiraled out of control into a non-stop evil. Putting light and heat on this issue will perhaps give the people a fighting chance to break this spiral, that nobody was strong enough to break. We see this type of thing in many poorer areas of the world, including LatinAmerica, FarEast, where it gets confused as "tradition" when in fact it's an unnatural abberation from normalcy. It got condoned so many generations, that people born into this take it to be the local culture, and even convince outsiders that it is.
religion – the single worst thing man has ever created
Agreed! Now if they would only follow God instead of themselves, it would be much easier!
You should read more critically-they DO believe they are following god by putting their children into these situations, they even SAY SO in the article! Why is this such a shock to people? According to Christian tradition, Abraham was willing to butcher his own kid because he head voices in his head-and the Christians actually APPLAUD this delusional insanity! No, religion has run out of justification for its continued existence among us.
what is wrong with india, when you offer your flesh and blood to be sold in the streets, what kind of religon they have that allowes this to happen. When you have people starving in the streets and whose religion says the cattle roaming in the streets cannot be killed to feed the hungrey. GOd punishies those who do not belive in him.
Inia = Pit of DOOM!
dont block my words you idiot i have a right to express my opinion even if i repeat my thougths.
God help this world.. we are becoming worse than animals !! Hope 2012 ends this all ....Humans are the worst race god created...
LOL just stop it already
Christianity is a revised (read: ripped-off) version of the religion of ancient Greece. Hear of the great flood? There probably was a giant flood over the fertile crescent, but not at the time Christianity was around. Hear of Pandora? Prototype for Eve. Some of the best known stories in the bible were taken directly from other religions to try to kill native religions during the spread of Christianity. Basically, even the argument that the bible is truth and that God is the original is a farce.
Exactly. =/ Its always something about religion this or religon that on here. Why dont they applaud the efforts of the few INDIAN PEOPLE who are trying to fix things over there? Instead their just bashing them all cuz they arent god fearing, bible-belted christian fanatics.
and this is just one of the many reasons why India is looking at becoming the most populated country on the planet, outstripping china in the process. The Chinese at least accepted conventional methods of birth control and family planning, but it seems theres nothing more chauvinistic than an Indian man. Im sorry if that sounds a bit prejudiced, but god damn this is getting ridiculous. Women are little more than cattle over there, and trust me Im no feminazi.
And really? All this 'god will punish them' comments are BS. Religion wasnt what birthed this breeding frenzy, or the women's place in Indian culture. It started simply by being poor farmers, where they needed large families to survive, and women were forced to churn out babies like loaves of bread. All countries start out this way. However, now their over-populated and without enough job options they need to get past that first stage of development.
Sure, maybe their religion shapes their traditions, but it isnt what makes them evil or bad. Its the choices men make on their own, and extremists of every religion do crazy things. Instead of blaming the fact that they arent christian, blame the fact that religion exists to begin with.
thank you for this article CNN! I just came back from India (Southern region) and my heart breaks for them, seeming the poverty and what they have to go through to make it through the day. It is wonderful that there are organizations out there (including the Lydia Project) that are stepping up to take care of these ladies and bring them out of this lifestyle.
Only in India you see this kind of stuff
This sort of stuff happens everywhere, even in the USA.
Indian culture sucks. Its divided into upper and lower classes. Upper class peple treat lower classes in the worst possible way and get away with it. Why? Because, they have religious backing. Indians have the worst social ethics.
Blackwhitemeet℃○M -
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Traditions are man made need to be removed by man.
Wow, what a charming and wonderful culture. Let's take 20 million more jobs away from Americans and give them to them.
Let's give them more of the "jobs for tomorrow" when they apparently aren't even ready to leave the 11th century.
Uh, I think there's a fair bit of difference between these poor villagers, and the highly educated engineers coming out of Indian universities and taking jobs from American companies.
What are you 5? grow up. don't you have FAUX news to get back to?
Very nice of u Will to Bash India...Western Jobs are given to these "primitive" people because they work at "one-tenth" of
a salary of your "unionized pay-scales"!! So you's people haven't given them out of pity...Barbarism wasn't created in In dia.It was created somewhere at "ground-zero" of cucasian life(northern Russia). Yes incest; letting your teen & pre-teen girl to wear make-up & go out and "lure" boys is not Indian custom either.Those "dirty and primitive" Indians were "exploited and squeezed out"first by Muslim/Arabs/Moguls then by euro-traders who taught those "simple-minded" people what corruption;"divide-and-rule" re-classified Caste-System & class-divied-valleys. So Mr.Will...Be Fair....
They need money? I have a great idea! Let's send them lot's o' money so they can pull out of this. Better yet, let's invite them to live over here What's a few billion more, right?
I am glad to see people using what they have been given, a conscience, and secondly, that we care about others when something wrong is being done to them. Especially when they are forced into an immoral tradition as this at such a young age, before completely being able to learn how to discern right from wrong the proper way. All such mechanisms should have our support.
I totally agree that the Western media is bent on tarnishing the image of countries like India and China by bringing up social issues, whereas they are loaded with their own which they don't want to talk about.Go to Harlem and see. But at the same time let us not forget what has been broiught to light. These are real and needs to be taken care of.
Do you believe that the Indian government can handle these matters by themselves? Or does the United States needs to help everyone?
Oh btw i don't think India and China need help hurting their image they do it all so well by themselves!
I believe the parents of this village should be punished and publicly humiliated for what they have done to the young girls! We forget that kind of stuff happens right here in the United States! How about we start worrying about us for a bit! i think we deserve it! Don't get me wrong i love knowing that our country gives billions of dollars to people who probably wouldn't help us if our country was hurting! Remember this, The world is like a pack of starving dogs! The moment you stop feeding them they are going to turn on the hand that feeds them without thinking about it!
AIDS, made by democracy.
Yeah and Bigfoot is the U.S. Defense Secretary
Pors... means sleeping with multipal men, US girls sleeps with 20+ and whole US womans are pros....why hell CNN not reporting that on CNN site in BOLD letters????????????????????????????????
While that may be true in our culture as well as yours, it still doesn't make it right no matter where in the world it is happening. So when we see organizations trying to help these young ladies remove themselves from this lifestyle, we should be happy for all of our sisters no matter where in the world they live?
As always, count on religion to be responsible for the most revolting and dehumanizing practices.
Go play n the street!!
Readers reading this headline, will feel that this is reality in at least 10% of Indian villages but believe me, being an Indian, this is very very rare case and there could hardly few villages in tribal areas( less than 20), where such things are happening.
By giving such headlines, you are attracting readers but giving -ve publicity.
pls be careful to give headlines.
Even while working to end human trafficking, CNN will go for the sensational headline every time.
This is happening because America doesn't use the metric system, and is the number one country for obesity and should stick to eating raw vegetables and Vegan diets, thus improving the quality of the world. After all A quarter pounder is not a quarter pounder in England!!!!!!
We are bashing Pakistan?! WooHoo! Screw you Pakistan! That was fun. Can we bash Belgium next? Stupid Belgium.
You are most welcome. But I disagree. A Kshatriya parent cannot foster a Brahmin child, nor any child of a different caste. The child is, by birth, whatever the parents are. If the parents are mixed, the child is mixed. Caste is passed on from parents to children. In some cases, it is easily distinguishable by the last name. I am curious to know why you think it is possible for a parent to have a child who is then some other caste? My point being that once you are born into a caste, if you do good deeds, you can change caste only in the next birth.
It's not by birth, but it is practiced by birth. India needs to get rid of the caste system. Everyone is equal. People like you cause more problem by dividing hindus and Indians. Educate yourself:
http://www.hafsite.org/media/pr/hinduism-not-cast-caste-full-report
Can we get back to hating on Belgium here? Geesh, God, no God, has anypne ever seen that argument work itself out on a cnn blog comments section?
Or maybe Lithuania! Yeah, stupid Lithuania!
And dont get me started on Uruguay! Three Us in one name?! Come on!
Who the hell cares about these problems in India? We have a lot of the same problems going on in the US. That is part of the problem that the U.S. is stuck in so much debt because they are constantly playing the role of big brother trying to solve all the world's problems. Do you think any of these countries gives a damn about America?
ah, another uneducated angry fool. Who forced you to read this, who forced you to comment? CNN reports on things all over the world. And Yes, the world doesn't end at the American border. Get back in your trailer
i think its not purely traditional but more on poverty existing problem
3rd world countries are piles of crap because the people made them that way. Honestly, I don't care about their problems at all. It's up to the people of those countries to clean up their own messes.
Remember this: The society is a product of the people.
I don't think any of these young girls are responsible for the messes that have been made by her country's sick form of patriarchy.
We may not be able to fix the problem, but we should have sympathy for those born into the problem.
It could have been you.
yea, not because of evil Europeans who expolited them for centuries. While counting their loot, they look down on them for being poor.
then why americans wants to open your ford company here.
Tradition? It is poverty. Stop showing India in bad light PLEASE.
Or is it India's traditions and mindset that create the poverty?
I wonder if CNN existed in the 1920's – 1970's in the good old US of A if people would be so keen on these kinds of in-depth reports about live in the grand old South... and the culture of segregation and hatred there? It is easy to air other nations' dirty linen now that you have evolved out of your own ignorance... or have you? What about an in-depth report of the greed and graft that plagued Wall Street and the Banking Fraternity and which has led the world into the worst economic disaster in modern times. Top it all off with a piece on the imperialistic policies of the Bush Administration that openly lied and deceive the International Community in order to start a War that never needed to be, all in the name of National Security and the spread of democracy. WOW.....Now there's a story!
And the winner of the 'Beating Dead Horses Award' and the 'Leftist Propoganda Award' go to ..... (drumm roll) ..... Andy Toppin! Congratulations!
EDIT: Oops. That's "drum roll", not "drumm roll". Oh well; I win the 'Typo Award'. 😉
Do you really understand what "leftist" mean.... ????? Old habit of labeling what you don't want to deal with. it is not a dead horse to the millions of people suffering as a result of American wisdom.
.... maybe you've gotten tired of the old favorites.... "liberal" and "anti-American" and "communist"
Look at all these Indians getting their panties in a wad. Get over it India is not some heaven on earth.
Who said it was? Americans like to think that some sky god "Blessed them." With what? Ignorance, and too much pride over nothing
Wow, the disrespect that is shown on these comment boards just floors me.
Yeah, and it's taking a toll. What could have been a global town square turned into worldwide mud pit, where everyone demonstrates their worst behavior. (I mean why be respectful if you can't get punched in the face for your words, right?)
Respect, humility and kindness are free. Let's try being nice people for a while even if no one else does...
We women are the ones who bring children into the world and who mostly raise them...when are we woman the world over going to realize that we have the power to raise our sons to respect women and to change these stone age customs the world over that use "tradition" as an excuse to allow daughters to be treated no better than mindless animals with no rights whatsoever.
Donna – while I understand your sentiment, it is mainly the fathers that need to be the examples for their sons. They are the ones that (culturally) are the head of the household who the sons try to emulate growing up. SO pick your spouse wisely! His actions determine the course of your family. And men? Please live up to your responsibilities, moral, ethical and spiritual.
I 100% agree. I think men are scared of the power of women, and across all cultures, they do their best to control our minds and bodies.
What's with the men that would do this?
Does anybody educate the boys and young men (so sad that one has to actually do this) that this is wrong, iimmoral, totally gross?
Is there shame for a man should he do this? Are there no laws to protect these children?
A young man can love and respect his mother and still go astray.
The greatest mothers can only do so much for boys. Outside forces are so pronounced. Sadly, we live in a world where male parenting is becoming more and more an afterthought. And I'm speaking for first world countries. The rest of the world. OMG. Sometimes I think we're doomed.
BTW, girls need fathers too. But that's a whole other blog.
"Tradition" is always forcing women or girls to do or not-to-do as dictated by men. "Tradition" only serves men.
Sick culture.
Echoes of prima nocta.
I think this is more of a class issue than gender. I doubt the peasant men enjoy sending their wives and daughters off to be used as toys for rich men.
Tradeetion? I just looove tradeetion. Thees ees the kind of tradeetion that I loove in my coountry.
Largest ghetto in all of Asia is in India.
But they think they are so smart.
Nopes that's not true...Just like in any other country, we have our share of brainy versus non brainy people. It's just that with extreme focus on academic brilliance, the brainy and the super brainy kids get to experience good education which helps their perspective widen a great deal. Some Americans are super smart too -while there are others who could have been extremely smart if they only had a stable family background -no divorced parents, parents who were not abusive,etc.
wow....generalize much? Yes, Indians are smarter, not because they are "Indian" but because they have a lot to overcome, and it makes them hard workers.
Mr.Gates,...You think exploitation of that "third-world carpet begger" was over with British"Lymies" leaving them helpless and penniless-robbed all the diamonds and jewels over 300 years.They left them fighting war on "neighbor-terrorism" sixty years ago.Mr,Gates...Mr.Gates you probably didn't even know the word terrorism the..you probably voted for all past five "idiotic" presidents who favored and gave aid to "wrong-country"thinking that was their "friend".You really win award in "MAKING RIGHT DECISION ON FRIENDSHIP and KNOWING RIGHT-from-WRONG"...Hats off to you Mr.Gates.By the way real BILL GATES knows who to trust...you Phony Gates !!!!
Jesus Christ, what kind of species are these ones...tradition to sell your daughter to a bordello? I just can't believe human beings could do such a thing. I'm telling you, these monsters with human look deserve to be nooked because they don't have any maternal feelings whatsoever. It's just beyond imagination.
It a few uneducated backward people. Majority of Indians would never do this.
It's the indian culture that worships money and breeds a society that would do anything for the right price. This is where they need to begin, if they really want to make a difference–a lasting difference! This is where we need to start. Everything else will fall into place nicely.
Why dont they just become telemarketers and customer service reps????
wow....the first time I've heard about that joke..
Stop telling non-believers that God is going to send them to the lake of fire.God is love. If anything, tell them that they THEMSELVES are going to send themselves into the lake of fire for not believing.
Sometime evil is not just what people do... it's what they don't do. Find a way to help instead of just saying. Thoughts are meaningless without action.
Good intentions alone won't help a single child.
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Prayers are wonderful, but action is essential.
Who are the pieces of dung that take advantage of these young girls? Maybe some attention should be focused there as well.
The health and progress of any society is a manifestation of how it treats its most vulnerable., most importantly its young women. These are the future mothers of the world.
Are we doomed?
If we don't help, then yes. Help. Google something and do it. Please.
Honestly, I would rather be a Pstar than do construction work or farm work. As long as my clients are clean and protection is worn. This woman in the story is not a slave, she is just working a "dirty job".
If it is such a good job, why don't you go up to your mother and tell her she should start doing it.
NOT A SLAVE? WHAT DO YOU NOT GET ABOUT SELLING A 13 YEAR OLD? WHAT KIND OF "MAN" ARE YOU? A NEANDERTHAL?
DOES YOUR PENIS RULE YOUR HUMANITY NOT TO MENTION YOUR SENSE OF RIGHT AND WRONG? OF COURSE IT DOES – STUPID QUESTION AND STUPID MAN!
AND YOU BET YOUR A** I'M YELLING!
It seems like judaism is the only normal religion
We can all sit here in our McMansions and rail against this horror. We can type our quips on news sites. We can all say that we "feel their pain". Does that actually help these girls? We can do more than that. I do. I'm not trying to hold anyone to a standard, but for these girls when it comes to help it's put up or shut up. Help is available and it's called involvement. Our ability to extend aid is inexorable and life giving. Future giving. One less car detailing. One less pair of shoes. One fewer rounds of golf or trip to a restaurant. Is that so much to ask? Search your heart and look at your daughters, nieces, granddaughters and ask yourself if you would let this happen to them. Would you? Think... right now for a moment. It's not a wasted effort even if you help save one child. I have 2 small daughters myself and this story sickens me beyond belief so much that any little sacrifice I make is essential. Nothing to me, but everything to them. We can't just change a culture, but that's no reason to just cast this aside, go sit down to pot roast dinner and go on with our lives without giving it another thought. No, they're not Americans... but they are children. Children and innocence don't recognise international bounderies. Picture YOUR children in the same situation (REALLY think about it) and open your heart.
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is one way. Google more ways to help, any way, but just do it. We fall for slogans like that on NIKE marketing ads... but this is for an actual child. Don't just comment. Help. JUST DO IT. Please.
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Really? A sales ad? Here?
Now today this is for money.
But origin of this was religious tradition.
Maybe this tradition became spreading STDs in those days.
Are there a difference between religion and ignorance?
In N.America, it is dangerous to send the child to daycare. Lot of crap people are around here including priests. Such thing will not happen in India. Save the day care first and then talk about India
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I tried. But I just can't do it. I can't read 1-sentence paragraphs. I get maybe 5 or 6 sentences in, and it's just so annoying I have to quit.
Tradition has always been Progress' main obstacle...
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I'm all for what consenting adults want to do in the privacy of their homes but this has absolutely NOTHING to do with that.
It's awful but keep in mind that it's only part of the exploitation that the rich and powerful force upon poor.
As a famous book author was saying, "Religion poisons everything".
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This is what happens in cultures that do not have football.
India doesn't have football???? It has the India National Football Team. what are you talking about
If Football == Soccer, yes.
And we send our jobs over to this barbaric nation?
yeah because the whole nation does this practice. are you serious? In the good ol' USA we have gangs.....does that mean the whole nation is in a gang?? NO
What in God's name is wrong with these people..............for monye your own 13 year old daughter, pathetic.
There are many in other parts of world also who do horrible things to their daughters/sons for many other different reasons. Read about the man who bore 6 children with his own daughter and locked them up for years in the basement.
Doesn't make these people any less horrible.
They are not "horrible", they are victims of their own choices. Every individual is ultimately responsible for his own actions and destiny. Stop demonizing fellow earthlings, instead get rid of your own demons if you can locate them. Jesus stated hate the sin not the sinner.
What a bunch of backward idiots.
"They say it is a tradition that has been passed down through generations. It began with the devdasi culture (devdasi means servant of God)."
I knew we didn't have search too hard to find the sickly face of religious ignorance. When civilization wakes up from these childish ideas and absurd claims then mankind can progress-and with a lot less suffering and cruelty. The only gods that exist are those we create in our own minds.
The U.S. Dept of State publishes human rights reports on all types of forced and slave labor and a wide range of abuses each year that is worth reading. Please support volunteer organizations working to combat these horrible criminal activities.
Hey India – caste system, religious whorism .... what kind of friggging traditions are those?
Traditions are frequently used as an excuse..
There are people who love shark fin soup – their excuse for not stopping their cruel cuisine = tradition. They say, "Shark fin soup is our tradition so back off". I say, you shark fin soup eaters back off. Stop your perverse cuisine. What a stupid vulgar tradition.
There was a case here in Maine where the dad put his little baby's peeing part into his mouth to kiss it. When he was prosecuted the whole Afghani community were up in arms – Tradition, they say. That is a stupid and vulgar tradition. You are in the US, you came here for asylum and it is not acceptable in Islam either. So stop your stupid vulgar tradition.
Traditions. ??!!!
Blessed Geek. I know what you mean here. I haven't taken it personally though I'm an Indian
Exploiting the loopholes in the religion / customs is what everyone is used to.
Things change but hope they speeden up.
Pimping for God? Ancient as war and just as destructive.
That makes the parents "Job Creators". Let's lower their taxes!
Hmm, 4x the wage that would get otherwise... do you really think this is going to go away anytime soon? At that kind of relative wage there will be many who choose do it regardless of custom.
They're forced into it as children. Pretty sick stuff. They'll probably need the wages to pay for medical care for the diseases they get, and the pregnancies.
It's a sad tradition made by men, such in india or middle east, they made some traditions based on male instints and desires and maybe even in thousand years women will not be able to chance it, which is a sad thing.
This Anil kapoor is simply a sellout to western media. He is simply media hungry. Only good thing about this articles is that there is a group of people who are working to make a difference to the lives of these people and they belong to the same country which many on this site are trying to portray as some medieval barbaric nation. Someone knows very well what it means to be medieval and barbaric.
the capitlaist india sucks big time.
What's the point of your response? That because bad things happen elsewhere we should turn a blind eye to this?
this was supposed to be a reply to VB in an earlier comment
Will you do just because of my comment !!!?? My comment does not imply what you are inferring. My comment is only meant to highlight the nature of comments on this article. You can choose what ever you want to do.
India has multiple faces from very rich to very poor. Important here is India accepts problem understand its wrong and plan to take action. How soon we see impact depends on many factors. But in my mind its better accept and act rather than hide and pretend problem do not exist. Religion is not answers world without religion world will be much better place to live.
Because Stalinist Russia, atheist, worked so well. It depends on the religion, but more importantly, the peoples interpretation of their religion. Blame people, not religion.
I wonder the rate of STDs in their community. Somewhere around 100% infection I would imagine.
Again, the way the "Globalist Bankers" are bleeding us, this might happen to young girls in America as the norm, not the exception. We won't be able to care about others houses if we don't defend our own.
So was it ok when it was just a traditional religious obligation?
I say take the log out of your own eye before taking the spinter out of your neighbor's eye.
If you are not sure what that means, it means our western culture does not fare better in the moral department so we should not be scandalized by these things in other countries.
Hi Sandeep...we have no such traditions here in the western world. not even close. tega.
What tradition do we have that's worse than this? If you got something to say, say it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrv8YkH5hjg.
I think we'd all be better off if we'd get over the old religious objections to birth control – be it the temporary variety or the permanent variety. Personally I'd like to see the gov't funding the permanent variety for men and women at low costs or no costs. Let the Sunday morning crowd just get all bent out of shape if they like. I don't care. They ought to be worrying about poverty and wars and the long term effects ignorance has on youth. They ought to be supporting education programs, nutrition education (what you eat, how to grow it and how to prepare food), and peace vs wars.
Eliminating unwanted pregnancies would go a long, long way towards helping women around the world. Help them form collectives where they help each other earn a living be it through farming, textiles, medical training, small businesses, small factories – whatever. Let the collectives enable women to replace the need for a husband and the resulting children that these couples can not support. They'd be like nunneries without the religion requirement or a union. Women free to enter and leave them however, only they have to contribute to remain part of the collective.
Whatever the case women around the world get tied down by pregnancies (wanted and unwanted) that they can not easily support alone. I can't tell how many American single mothers I've met over the years struggling to raise children by themselves b/c they chose a reckless teenage/early 20s path. They hooked up with unreliable men who never supported their end of the parental responsibilities. In some cases the children go on the make the same poor choices and live in poverty for it yet another generation. Society ought to help people break this cycle. I know some forces value these desperate peoples' cheap labor but I'd like to see poverty eliminated.
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this is a way of culling them
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Funny how this article is about hindu's putting girls into that 'business' but all the lefties come whining about christianity. Show's who really holds the cards in life. And it's Jesus. Get over it.
jesus sucked childrens dix
the bible shows how you legalize it
yup, let's look at history history and their crimes. Jesus would be proud.
hi, in the west we don't drink urine or eat dung...and we don't have such filthy religious ritual as that in the subject of this article...yuck!!!
Now it is false 498a or false DV age, men are victim.
Woman cheats NRI techie with marriage promise and extracts money.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Woman-cheats-NRI-techie-with-marriage-promise/articleshow/9058930.cms#write
Man missing after wife attacks him on reality show
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Man-missing-after-wife-attacks-him-on-reality-show/articleshow/9939436.cms
Despite the independence there is a mental slavery to the British (and associated West) masters that the ilks of Kapoor suffer from in India. They will say and do anything – even sell their mothers – to ingratiate with the masters. The Discovery channel level knowledge of the one the most ancient religions does serious disservice to both the religion and its teachings. The fact that poor are oppressed at every level stares at the declining society. It is not the Hinduism or its tradition that summon the crimes. It is the conniving wolves who pretend as its followers. So put the broad brush down and take a deep breath. And now that spade is spade, let's destroy this evil from the society without maligning the ancient culture and its heritage that the masters would love Kapoor, unbeknownst to him, to destroy as well.
this bias article sure jumps on the fathers and brothers. I guess the mothers and sisters are saints and don't want their daughter/sister to make $$ for the family. it is just the men that are the villians. i find it interesting that the authors are embarrassed to sign their names to the stories anymore. anonymous ghost writers can write anything they want, forget the truth.
i banged a few underage pros in asia-india.china,thailand
they were all gud unlike western women-tight beavers and eager to please
I am sorry but I do not support this religion, not all "religions" are equal; these girls would be much better off if their parents followed the teachings of someone else, like Jesus Christ, the real teachings. And I am not Christian.
yeah right!
jesus was just a gay magician who like to be the caboose in a 'train'
the bible has killed more people than any other religion
jesus loved sucking little boys dix
Christian? The religion of r ape and homicide? They worship the electric chair of the day (cross). They are and always have been nothing but an organized child r ape organization from the family level all the way to the top. Get past Santa Claus (usually a drunken m olester) and the Easter Bunny and you have Heck on Earth: christianity.
indian tw$t is the best
they are tight!!!!tight tight and tight!
american and canadian women have the loosest and biggest clams ever!
Someone tell me how any "man" anywhere in the would would be okay with selling his daughter or sister in this trade. I would rather die than see this happen to my sisters.
It's quite sad, but some people are that desperate...
No excuse for selling of your children or sisters.
Cool Beans! That is a DEAL: I get to DO your sisters and your mother. Mom first, the rest can watch. After that, you can die. That is a total fantasy worthy of its own website. Dude, we will be rich and mom/sisters will be happy.
But you do live happily with your kids in loneliness throughout their childhood just because you ended up liking different women/men. That's how Christianity works, right? Today's Indian problem is Indian, not the problem of Hinduism. But yours is the Problem of Christianity. Get over it.
Dear God...
Please take religion off this planet. We don't need it!
"Religion" is just an excuse in this case, blame the people. We do need God, more than ever.
I came here looking for 'goddess' who wants god when you can do a GODDESS or maybe a hot nun. That is another great activity: seducing nuns. It is rather easy...tell them they are going to heck if they don't bend over. works for boys, works for nuns. great religion
ahh, finally an indian celebrity that we could look up to. I doubt if his intentions are true to the cause or just for publicity, but I iwill give him the benefit of doubt and will wait and see. Thanks for this post CNN.
What is wrong with U bible thumpers. This is india, this is their country not ours. let them do what they want. their culture and beliefs have nothing to do with USA. That is why this country is almost broke. Qut worrying about everyone else and worry about USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Hell! All this does is encourage men with $ to go to india to get young kitty. That is what all men around the world want and desire. That is what makes the world go around $ and kitty. One begets the other or all are of you to dumb to figure that out?
Learn to speak properly and use grammer and then try to call other people dumb. You are an embarrassment for Americans everywhere.
Beth, like all 'women' you ignore the message for the words. Guy is right. The article is nothing but an advertisement for the child trade. Articles like the above CREATE the crime.
Shame on you INDIA!
There is god and the devil in all of us.WE ourselves have the opportunity to choose to do the right or wrong actions.In indian terms called,Good&Bad karma.If all of us critic ourselves more than we critic others,we can all live peacefully& happily.Being born in this human body is a gift which should be used to achieve a higher purpose in life.Concerning the article,it is a very sad plight and I thank the big organizations like CNN& Plan India in letting the world get a glimpse of the suffering happening in other countries and I hope this awareness helps them in a big way.God Bless.
Who is the ugly guy in the picture? The pimp? I wanna see the girls and a price list. I do not want morality imposed by others.
sicko...
Way it works: highly paid executives of American companies go to India for their Bangalore and Hyderabad corporate office biz. Of course they have to call out in the evening for a nice relieving child. That is what American Executives do and expect of India. Why do you think they do so much biz there?
The issue is not whether or not it is happening, it is about whether or not it is right. No matter how common it is, it will never be OK. It is sad and pathetic that this is supposedly "expected" of others when our executives visit other countries.
Where's our atheists? Aren't you going to blame the meatball monster or something? Already commented? I thought u guys were like the marines – the first in and the last to leave!
Where are the atheists? Dude...you not been reading? It is E-hotter than E-Hiroshima in there. Get out while you can.
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india needs to be saved from bollywood. worst form of entertainment on the planet
I completely agree with "dumbfinder"...Why stupid Indian Authorities won't control "mindless" Bollywood Items....they are doing total in-justice to Indian Image ...Indian public do not need to assimilate that "make-believe" garbage...
In the US (rather so called Western Countries) a girl sleeps with so many guys...and finally settles with one. What is that called?
Cronjob, for the most part it's viewed the same as when a man sleeps with many girls and then settles with one.
I agree with "cronjob" and disagree with you Ms. AliseMaria...It starts with "flirty" adolescent girls hovering all over those stupid boys...those "testosterone-overflowing" animals won't think anything when those "lusty" bodies are doing "lap-dances" over teen-machos.They were "raised & taught" by the culture in western world(I am not blaming parents first.Poor parents probably didn't know any better-(5-out-of 10 ) probably didn't know how they became parents.
Saying its tradition and/or religion removes all responsibility from the families who destroy the lives of their daughters and sisters. Sorry, but that's the same excuse whites used about Apartheid – it's law, it's tradition, it's religion. Well, it's none of those things. Yes, these are diffiicult and complex issues, but don't shroud them to evote sympathy.
*evoke
Amen, Keenyk!
Any social work should be selfless,with complete devotion like Baba Amte,not for cheap publicity Mr Anil Kapoor
What barbarians. And we trade with these people?!?
I hope you're kidding.
Why don't you use your "last-few-marbles" MR.T ...I have seen your "type" trading with "right partners"...where can I start to tell the wonderful tale of your "trading decisions" Mr.T ....which direction can I "shed" ligh...CHINA-most favored nation....or OUR BEST ALLY-the great PAKI-(satan)...or our ally-in war against Russia in Afganistan-Mujaheddin's or Our
wonderful stance in Indo-china war .....O those wonderful decisions have made USA famous in history...ever since the days of both
World-Wars....Go learn something....You are no better decision-maker than let's say..."Mousolini-picked-Hitler as a trading-partner"...
It is very sad to see these things happening in this cruel world.
Certainly Anil Kapoor is a great actor, great person and a wonderful citizen – most importantly a compassionate human being. He has donated lakhs in two schools near our locality and we are all thankful. We now see those poor kids with schoolbags on their backs instead of bricks on their heads. Great job Mr. Anil Kapoor.
The parents are Job Creators, we should give them a tax break!!!
Man-Gods/Gods only utilitarian value is the power it gives Man to control women. Take away Mans control the Religion will collapse. As will any Secular structure in imitation.
O man, is it sweeps week again?
That is not religion, it is Hindiuism. It makes a significant difference.
Christianity completely rejects all of Hinduism, including notably the lie that there can be more than one god.
Please elaborate on why there can't be more than one god. I can't possibly understand why if there could be one, there couldn't be more than one.
*Gets on plane to India*
It is great that Anil is doing something about it. India is full of rich and influencial people, all they care about is exploiting the poor to grow their wealth. What a shame! I think rich people should take inspiration from people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Anil Kapoor. I think after a certain level it doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is how good you feel thinking about yourself and that only comes from doing what these people are doing. God bless Anil and all others who wants to do something good for the society.
There is a bit of misrepresentation in this article/program. In Hindu religion, Devdasis were/are the girls donated to the Mundir (temple) for the personal use of the Pujari (priest). This was supposed to bring God's blessings to the household of those who donated the girl. Usually, it was the eldest female offspring of the household.
Somehow this Hindu practice which is a religion coming into existence before even Christianity has this centuries old practice and Indians are blaming this on Pakistan and Islam. Pathetic.
Who told you this is Hindu practice? That's Indian tradition of couple of hundred years old, not Hindu! That's the result of rich people exploiting the poor. Just letting you know.
My Friend Imran-I gree with you for half-Nobody should blame Pakistan....they're wrong for that...but...Hindu Girls being sold in RedLight didn't just start a century or so ago...correct yourself Mr.Imran...If you check history...Hindu Girls were abducted by Arabian-thugs back in 12th century (before the real terror from Mogul Sultans started) and sold in Arabian "Girl-market" or Harems...check history Mr.Imran...so ISLAM was the instigator of Girl-Trade in India....!!!!
God bless
WOW,THIS GUY SUCKS AT PAINTBALL.
SOMEBODY GOT HIM RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES.
Indian-Vatican Child Auction Website ! They can base it in Thailand, a favorite stopover for "missionaries" on their way to poor Chinese Child Playground where they can/do buy all or part of a child (in the most literal sense this is true) for very cheap. Chinese peasant family just pops out another, no biggy to them.
Why are people enamored of the Hindu religion that promotes this practice and class system? Think. Liberate yourselves from mindless tradition. Think.
The American media is bent on bringing up every single social issue they can find to tarnish the image of rising countries like India. India has made huge strides in the past 10 years, with poverty rate on track to be cut by HALF to just over 20% in 2015 as per the latest UN report. But this isn't what we hear from the American media.. no.. they go out to some backwoods village in the middle of nowhere and dig up stuff like this instead, but they won't do the same for America. Real journalism??
As long as they don't come here.
i used to date a girl that had an indian ex boyfriend.
indian men would burn the women if they didnt produce a male child
these people are disgusting
I am just disgusted to see CNN keep bringing the news to make Indian culture look bad. It just makes me think what is the intention here. At least once I would see positive news on why Indians are more educated and there is true democracy because of culture and values of the people. Think of how would USA be if it had 6 times more population..and 1/2 the land. I just hope news organizations keep their nose out of bringing the worst of others..Their goal should be to bring the best in us. It would unite as in the planet earth.
Allowing yourself to be dis-honored, stooping low, and lack of self respect is all over the place. Whether it's for a one-event money, or a temporary marriage...face it, the USA has the hightest divorce rate in the world...you could say a lot about that and how much honor we have here itself...offering ourselves to one, and then another, and then a third...heck, sleeping with several before even picking one for marriage...for free! The difference?...completely by my own choosing...hmm, wow, means I have sooo much more honor...I chose all the 14 guys I slept with before getting married. Wow, I'm so much more devout and civilized and full of honor than these other's who are poverty-stricken...NOT! I guess....sick, truly, in all regards....both situations. See both sides of it...and yes, even at those ages too, we've got enough problems with honor here in developed countries.! Wake up and smell the coffee. Oh, and for the comment about poverty there?....a LOT of the demand for these girls comes from foreign countries....surprise?...I don't think so.
Don't compare yourself to those unfortunate children. You had a choice, they didn't.
Wow. Off topic people... Loved that showdown between W247 and VR13 though, might have to say... Do you want the easy way to make money by bringing shame to yourself and others or do the very hard work for a fraction of that money except of bringing no shame to you and others? Just do the easy way first then quit it after you get sick, then quit to your normal life if you have one or start another one. I <3 how you guys (and gals or people) express your opinion. So much fun!
Well done Anil and his team!! And for those who thinks this problem is due to their religion, that's a false assumption. If you want to go with that assumption I have nothing to educate you, but the reality behind it is the class difference prevailing in India. Read Hindu scripts and you will find out that girls were treated with high respect in ancient India. And please don't mix couple of hundred years old Indian's tradition with Hindu tradition. Even the caste system of India, even though it existed since the beginning of Hinduism, but then there wasn't the untouchable stuffs, it (caste system) was just used to justify the individual roles in the community. There are also some great examples that shows us that Caste could be changed with their deeds. It's not Hinduism, its modern India!!
I like how the policemen when in the presence of the actor appear to be very appeasing just because he's a celebrity. It's a common scene in India and other such countries (where corruption is rampant and the rule of law is not enforced).
This is the sad truth of the world that most Americans do not understand. While it is important to know what is going on abroad, most of us are oblivious to what goes on here within our own country.
Quite amazing, that Movie stars comes out for cause, and media covers it when their new movie is coming out. Welcome to Commercialism!!!
The Pakistani readers don't understand this. They are laughing with glee which is shameful because we must not delight in the pain suffered by others (even if they are our enemies). What most people do not understand is this : India's robust and vibrant entertainment industry has produced genuine artists who are now powerful, strong , virtuous and heroic enough to tackle deeply entrenched social problems! That is one of the reasons why artists are fostered because they can then tackle very difficult and intractable problems through publicity , finesse and artistic sensitivity. This article shows that India is joining the ranks of the developed nations. Bravo! India. Best of luck to you guys. Your women and people are already very highly educated and now reading this makes us certain you will tackle the more difficult rural cases as well. We are most blessed to have neighbors such as you! may all be relieved of our destructive religions and traditions.
Certainly worth not only pointing out these issues. Though, i.e. there are many college and university students (on about every continent) 'earning a living' with prosti-tution.
And, an example of local surroundings, there is a girl who would like to pursue (in a few years) higher education: theater, music, and similar. Personally, i would rather see her to do so in proper environment where she is looked after, then having to rely on the 'good-will' of se-xually deviant teachers, businessmen, politicians, etc.
And yes, so-called deflowering should be a more or less public, public nevertheless, proper ceremony; certainly not in the meaning of girls being forced to do so one way or another, nor in secret (as in cave and with taboo) anyhow, nor out of stubborness.
Certainly broader topic than what mentioned here..
That is why Christianity should be explained to these people.
That's the only way to solve these problem...
The tradition is what belongs to this culture. They are not needing the west with its values to come an alter they way they live and have been practicing their religion. The west needs to stay where it belongs and that is in the west and allow people the right and privileges without interference. When did he west become the moral guide for the world?
Actually, this is a "culture" issue. In that village (or any place in any country), this is an accepted way of living, if you can call it that. They grew up in that orientation, and therefore they do not "consider" it degrading or even humiliating. It may not be as dignified as working in an office, but they certainly will put it in the same level as working as a laborer, or a servant for someone else. WE who have been "educated" by other ways, look at this in a different light. Since we consider this improper and shameful, we expect them to think that way too. What we label as apalling or improper is not the same in their culture. Educating them to think & do like we do is a good idea, but we are in some way, trying to change their mindset, and they may even consider that as an infringement in their freedom to choose their way of life.
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!-Its not trapped by tradition, its TRAPPED BY POVERTY!!!
This has nothing to do with "Indian" traditions. I would say Anil Kapoor needs to know more about Indian tradition. Indian traditions are 1000s of years old.
There may be customs that a group of people follow or got formed within certain groups at certain times as there were no restrictions or hard rules imposed on people in India against those. Anybody has the right to form and spread his or her own ideologies. India has never hanged anyone for that in history. They have the complete freedom and privilege to question or deviate from what is being followed – correct or wrong. That is the level of freedom that you would see in India. In such a society, it is so easy to get wrong customs like this (what CNN/Mr.Kapoor reported) a practice.
i just want to say to all only one thing god do exisit either you beleive or not he he is there and he is alive
but the question is how can anything justify the wicked how how how
and the only answer for this you will not find it in any way or religion except the way of jesus
you will ask why cannot be hindu or budha or even islam or even any work
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