August 12th, 2011
12:02 PM ET

Illinois law to clear sex trafficking victims' records of prostitution convictions

Beginning next year, victims of sex trafficking in Illinois will have the chance to clear their legal records of convictions related to prostitution.

Senate Bill 1037, sponsored by Sen Toi Hutchinson (D-Chicago Heights) and Rep Karen Yarbrough (D-Maywood) “allows defendants of human trafficking at the time of their prostitution convictions to file a motion to vacate the conviction if the defendant's participation in the offense was the result of being a victim,” a release from the governor's office said.

Illinois Governor Pat Quinn says the new law gives victims of sex trafficking an opportunity to start over.

“Sex trafficking is a truly reprehensible crime that preys on the most vulnerable. Victims deserve a chance to clear their records and rebuild their lives,” Quinn said to the Chicago Sun-Times.

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  1. CAASE

    The Chicago Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation and our End Demand Illinois campaign led the passage of this bill, and we are thrilled that it’s been signed into law! We advocate for law enforcement to refocus their attention on holding pimps, johns and traffickers accountable, while proposing a network of resources for survivors of the commercial sex trade. This will be an excellent resource for survivors of trafficking. To learn more about our campaign and how you can help, visit

    August 12, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Reply
    • Leonard

      You forget there are the Moral Police. It is up to them to decide what pain or pleasure for you and me. In England, while prostitution is illegal, it is still okay to give a woman money in exchange for sex. I really don't see the point, but this group (starting with the Women's Christian Temperance League) got alcohol banned. A small group of (mostly ugly) women forced Prohibition into effect. Common sense told America that this was a dumb idea. Still, it is not legal here to smoke MJ, for the same reason the WCTL wanted to ban people from enjoying their own life.

      August 13, 2011 at 6:21 pm | Reply
      • jalynne

        We keep MJ illegal, because it's better to have MJ brought into our country. If the US legalized MJ, then drug traffickers will have to make money by bringing in more of the dangerous drugs. These guys aren't going to get 9-5 job just because we found a way to hamper their MJ sales. Also, they would be importing a greater cash value of supply and with that comes heavier firepower to protect that product. MJ is a "gatekeeper drug". No, I don't mean "gateway drug." A gatekeeper drug is what keeps the really bad stuff out while we let the less harmful stuff through.

        August 20, 2011 at 10:26 am |
      • wj

        Keeping marijuana illegal has led to much misery for many otherwise innocent people Cops have made spies of the children whose parents kept a few marijuana plants. Homes have been seized from innocent people where a person in the household had a small amount of marijuana. Sometimes it does seem that the true criminals are those people with badges and those who provide harsh sentences for minor offenses.

        August 27, 2011 at 7:31 am |
    • Steve

      Don't put pimps in the same category as clients (they are not "johns"). Pimps take hard-earned money from sex workers in exchange for nothing. Clients provide money to sex workers in exchange for sex. Putting pimps and clients in the same category is like putting bank depositors and bank robbers in the same category because they both go to banks.

      August 14, 2011 at 3:50 pm | Reply
      • AgreeToDisagree

        Could they also take into consideration that some sex workers do prefer to USE pimps to promote for them to customers as well so that they do not have to discuss pricing and concentrate on work? The entire CNN Freedom Project programme is good, but does not make differences between the trafficker pimp and the consensual 'agent' pimp. It gives ALL pimps a bad name.

        Also pimps do not ALL take the entire sum of the takings. Some may take a percentage much like housing agent asks for. This should be regulated at no more than 10% (like a stamp fee). Perhaps a licensed pimp should have a stable of no more than 10 sex workers under his management so that the earning would be the same as the sex worker. Hardly exploitative.

        All clients should be recorded by the pimp or sex worker for disease control purposes (if health checkup shows disease), legalize both pimps and sex workers. The world would be a less colourful place if not for these under-dressed or dressy people of the adult industry. Legalize them all under the above considerations. America represents diversity, don't make the mistake of France in their treatment of Burkha wearing women. Non-trafficker pimps should be featured as part of the scene too.

        August 15, 2011 at 11:41 am |
      • Drowlord

        That is absolutely insane. Legalize pimping as part of our commitment to diversity? I think I'm relatively open-minded about the subject of prostitution in general, but even a proponent has to understand that it's an exploitative industry. Pimps are the absolute very worst part of it.

        August 24, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
  2. Richard in Minneapolis

    Why don't we just leagalize prostitution and be done with it?

    August 12, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Reply
    • Steve

      We do not legalize sex work because we are a Victorian society with serious sexual hang-ups.

      August 14, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Reply
    • Naomi

      Except for the present shameful, immoral perv West, every decent human society is Victorian.

      August 15, 2011 at 4:22 am | Reply
    • Gustavo

      Yeah, while we are at it, why don't we legalize child prostitution and bestiality as well? Like Steve says truly a short-sighted Victorian society. Luckily we have some folks ready to open our blind eyes. It really seems we have lost all sense of morality in this country. Truly sad.

      August 19, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Reply
      • John

        Right because 2 consenting adult having sex is the same thing as having sex with a dog or a kid.
        If you view sex that way you need some serious psych help.

        August 21, 2011 at 9:14 am |
      • Art Vandolaye

        Gustavo, double up on the prozac dude. Your comment may be the most moronic posting ever. You dont really believe what you posted, do you?

        August 22, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
    • XERXES

      Cause is not little guys doing this things, it's the goverment itself allowing this people to get away with..

      August 20, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Reply
    • Dieyoung

      Prostitution is legal, to an extent, in Nevada. prostitution is only legal in licensed, heavily regulated brothels.

      August 27, 2011 at 12:05 am | Reply
    • al capone

      Hey, then we can tax it too. Sex is not a gateway act

      August 31, 2011 at 11:39 am | Reply
  3. Naomi

    Men, stop buying women and children. Every girl was born to be loved and cherished as one good man's one and only for the lifetime and to reach the stars. Take the pains of life fully like a real man and live with it or rather die than become the lowest coward and exploit someone who is defenseless. There is the Judgment Day for your filthy lust.

    August 12, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Reply
    • JustMe

      " Every girl was born to be loved and cherished as one good man's one and only for the lifetime and to reach the stars ". Why muck up an otherwise lucid statement with romantic nonsense? Plenty of girls don't feel that way. And religion has nothing to do with it either. Throughout recorded history, more people have been murdered in the name of religion than for any other reason. Human beings shouldn't abuse each other, period. The ability to overcome animal tendencies is what supposedly seperates us from lower species! Apparently some of us (humans) never gt the memo.

      August 14, 2011 at 8:25 am | Reply
      • XERXES

        "Ain't Easy to be a pimp." but somebody got to do it... Demand,Demand.. ps. I think it would be best for them to ligalize prostitution...

        August 20, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • Naomi

      @JustMe, you are wrong. Every sane woman wants one compotent man as one faithful husband for lifetime unless one is a nun. Atheism massacred most number of humans in the shortest time. Religion(Christianity) mostly rescued and preserved human lives, 7 billions so far.

      August 15, 2011 at 4:18 am | Reply
      • Steve

        So a woman who does not want "one compotent man" (do you mean "competent"?) is not sane? Did you ever hear of lesbians?

        Your comment reveals a police state attitude toward people who don't fit your idea of what a woman should be. If she is not sane, then she could be legally compelled to take psychiatric drugs, be institutionalized, or even get shock treatments until she becomes "sane". This is what was done to gay people until the 1970s.

        This may be hard for you to wrap your mind around, but there are some completely sane women who have no interest in having a romantic relationship. For some of them sex work is just another high-paying job. They would like you to mind your own business and leave them alone.

        August 15, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
      • Mike

        Naomi you are ignorant or naive. Look up the the crusades and the Verden Massacre if you care to challenge your ideal of Christianity saving lives. Religious people are just as likely as Atheists to be benevolent or malevolent.

        August 16, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
      • John

        Oh I see what you did there. Any woman who disagrees with you now is insane.
        And as for the athiest killing the most people....sorry but christians still hold that title. Unlesss of course you want to provide some facts to back that up.
        When will christians learn they are not the only people on this planet.

        August 21, 2011 at 9:17 am |
      • John

        "@JustMe, you are wrong. Every sane woman wants one compotent man as one faithful husband for lifetime unless one is a nun. Atheism massacred most number of humans in the shortest time. Religion(Christianity) mostly rescued and preserved human lives, 7 billions so far"
        Lets look at this post of yours.

        Every sane woman wants one compotent man as one faithful husband for lifetime unless one is a nun.
        Ok so any woman that doesnt agree with your standards is insane? Control freak much?

        Atheism massacred most number of humans in the shortest time.
        Please do back this statement up. At least try to post some facts. This statement is complete BS and you are an idiot for believing it.

        Religion(Christianity) mostly rescued and preserved human lives, 7 billions so far"
        I like how you put the Christianity in parentheses after the word religion, as if Christianity is the only true religeon in the world. It truely shows what a nutbag you are.
        Also the part about saving "7 billions so far"? Where did you get that little (false) factoid from. Its smells like you pulled it from your.....nm.
        After reading your post I can only come to the conclusion that Christians LOVE to lie and twist things to serve their own purposes. Not 1 single thing in your post is based on FACTS. Your post shows whats wrong with your religion. Its pased on lies and its single purpose is to control.

        August 21, 2011 at 9:31 am |
    • zsailor

      Hitler murdered millions in the name of Christianity and the purification of the races. The great crusades were religion based. The slaughtering of the American Indian was religion based. Since they were not Christians they were labeled savages and a price put on their heads. I guess you forgot about all that huh?

      August 17, 2011 at 12:15 am | Reply
    • StanCalif

      So what does a man do when his long time wife no longer wants sex? This happens very often! Husbands and wives even resort to separate bedrooms! Still married, but no "sexual life"! Women seem to be okay with this, until they get a taste of something new. Then, they are no more different from men! Men are not biologically oriented to exist without sex, plain and simple fact! Married women too often forget what power they have in bed! Take care of your man and he will take care of you without wandering! Ignore him and he is out looking! Just how we are!

      August 20, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Reply
      • Steve

        OK,quit spying on me 😉 Your statement is an exact description of my marriage.I think about straying often but have yet to do so.We stay together for our young kids but we live in different stuctures on the same property and I finish each day lonely and longing.My wife eliminated sex seemingly as a way to force me into infidelity and then into her being able to look like a victim,since a regular divorce would make her look like a failure(twisted but true), but I have yet to take the bate.Sex is very effective as a tool and weapon used by both genders.

        August 21, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
  4. Naomi

    No human must be victimized for another's greed. Never. The battles for liberation will go on until the King's return. Villains will get absolute justice and victims will be fully redeemed even from bad memories. Planet Earth's story has a conclusion. America needs to return to God – the only way out of the present garbage life.

    August 12, 2011 at 11:11 pm | Reply
    • Evangelicide

      The King? Elvis is returning? Man, I can't wait! He was the shiz-nit in "Blue Hawaii!"

      August 14, 2011 at 11:53 pm | Reply
      • Irina

        I hope the Queen is returning too. Freddy Mercury is my favorite.

        August 19, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
      • John

        I will save a twinky for his return.

        August 21, 2011 at 9:32 am |
    • Naomi

      @Evan-, What Elvis? I never describe an American loser as a king. None of you have royal blood.

      August 15, 2011 at 4:19 am | Reply
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        April 8, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • who know

      then why does it say in the bible. it is better to cast thy seed into the belly of a whore then to cast it upon the ground? Presuming whore means prostitute

      August 16, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Reply
      • Tim

        Funny, I've been studying the bible for years and I don't remember ever seeing that scripture. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

        August 31, 2011 at 8:48 am |
    • John

      America needs to return to God? Sorry but there are lots of people living here in the good old USA who are NOT christians.
      Christianity is one of the most screwed up religeons on the face of the earth.
      BTW if I need to find Jesus, doesn't that kind of mean he is hiding?

      August 21, 2011 at 9:22 am | Reply
  5. think

    Photos of Prince Andrew with child prostitute, and lurid details of 'naked pool parties'.

    http://www.dailymail (replace this dot) co (replace this dot, too) uk/news/article-1362380/Prince-Andrew-naked-pool-parties-paedophile-friends-house.html

    I guess the wealthy can do this with impunity.

    August 13, 2011 at 2:06 am | Reply
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      August 13, 2011 at 7:16 am | Reply
  6. maaloo Dgreat

    Nigeria's education needs to be upgraded, and demand attention now, i've written university matriculation for three years, yet no admission, im getting older,

    August 13, 2011 at 5:43 am | Reply
  7. Gaylord

    I hope when the record is finally straightened out that these poor people can get some "peace of mind" and know that all men are NOT evil like those that stole part of their lives. God Bless them all.

    August 13, 2011 at 7:07 pm | Reply
  8. DC

    They really need to add a carpool lane to handle all this traffic.

    August 14, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Reply
  9. excuseme

    This article is not about those who wish to be in the sex industry. It is about people who were sold or forced into the sex industry. For those of you who have never left the US bubble of happiness, this issue is horrific for the poor who are promised jobs and then are forced into the industry. The US imports many of these workers through the Pacific territories, where passports can still be taken legally. But I would agree that this would be a lesser problem if prostitution was legal, regulated and taxed.

    August 17, 2011 at 8:50 am | Reply
  10. joshuaclinton

    Just film it and call it porn. Apparently, it's okay to pay someone to have sex and film it, but not okay to just pay for the sex.

    August 19, 2011 at 9:44 am | Reply
  11. XERXES

    We back to slavery times!! where everybody can be a slave...

    August 20, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Reply
  12. John

    Shhhh. You cant mention the Bible to back up things christians dont agree with.
    Of course the Christian religeon is so full of contradictions its laughable.

    August 21, 2011 at 9:20 am | Reply
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      April 8, 2012 at 1:32 am | Reply
  13. Blair

    Some very, very interesting posts here. I enjoyed reading...though I wish certain people would proof read before posting. Kinda ruined it for me.

    It is devastating to me how many Americans are unable to grasp the concept of free will, yet they consistently celebrate their freedom.

    If a woman wants to use her body for money, regardless of yours or mine or her mother's moral objections, it her damn right to do so. It's HER body, and she's FREE to use it how she wants. I've met many girls who, whether it be for her self esteem, because she has some off-kilter psychological problems or just because she really likes sex, has used her body in this manner. It's her right to do as she pleases, even if I think it's kinda gross to sleep around, and even if I definitely think it's degrading to allow yourself to be used.

    However, I've seen many documentaries and read many biographies of people who do not want to use their bodies for this purpose, but are "trapped" into it. I recently watched one which took place in what I believe was New York, called "Very Young Girls". These girls didn't want to be prostitutes, but lived in broken homes and poverty and were approached by men who would become their pimps, who gave them promises of money and of being loved and of a safe place to stay. This obviously wasn't the case. It's very sad that they were taken advantage of and had no choice in the matter of who touched their bodies and when, because they were forced into the act of prostitution.

    This is what this article is about, not women who knowingly subject themselves to this lifestyle but women who are forced into it. They certainly do not deserve criminal charges and I am happy to see our government working towards helping them redeem themselves.

    Also................I'm tired of pretentious Christians. Just last night, I was condemned to Hell for being Buddhist. Sad world we live in. Why are they always so angry at those who are different?

    August 22, 2011 at 10:37 am | Reply
  14. getreal74

    Naomi why just America needs to return to God?Why not ask all the world to return to God?Didnt Jesus come for everyone?

    August 23, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Reply
  15. truthseeker

    On lesbianism: I used to be the co president of the gsa in high school. The amount of homosexuals I met and am friends with is many, but when speaking with them, (before I was a Christian) more than half of them told me of some sexual abuse they suffered. One girl in particular caught me after work one night. She said her brother abused her, and now she's afraid of men, that she finds women more easy to relate to, and that she was having sexual thoughts and she didn't know what to do. These are our kids. Do I think that sexual abuse is the only way to make a homosexual, no, but certainly don't believe they were born that way. If they want to continue to be that way, it's their choice, but they should at least know they have the choice.
    As far as johns who pay for sex, why are they paying for sex, something that should come most natural to couples, why resort to fantasies when your fantasy is in your life? If your wife ( or husband) isn't giving you sex, talk about it. Tell your wife that it's unacceptable, ask her why. Maybe she doesn't feel beautiful, maybe she IS sticking it to you, but then you have a right to know why. Cutting you off, and not talking about it is not fair to either of you. (That's why my boyfriend divorced his ex, that and the abuse, but that's another story.) The bible actually says that women and men are supposed to fill each others needs.
    For those of you who want to know more about the women who use pimps, check out hookers for jesus. It's an incredible story of a young women who was trapped, but now helps other women get out of the sex business.
    As for the crusades, the muslims instigated it by attacking christians. The crusades were a defensive maneuver called to action by Pope Urban in 1095: Was there death? Of course there was, as such things happen in wartime. Did christians do bad things, make bad decisions, of course they did. Every person has made bad decisions, we are only human, after all. Jesus said "follow me" not "follow the people after me who will twist my words, or abuse the power God has given them".

    August 24, 2011 at 10:39 am | Reply
    • chakemba

      I just KNEW somebody would have to accuse the Muslims eventually. LMAO

      August 24, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Reply
      • truthseeker

        No accusation here, just the truth. The crusades started because the muslims started attacking christians to take their land. Pope urban practically had to beg europe to get involved. The muslims got as far as spain during the crusades, and just a few hundred miles out of paris, if memory serves.

        August 25, 2011 at 12:18 am |
  16. rapatella africana

    So.. what the'll do is erase the records then keep a list of the erased records..ha!

    August 24, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Reply
  17. Frank

    Wow, this is a great idea. I wish more of our leaders were this visionary.

    August 26, 2011 at 9:13 am | Reply
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      March 6, 2012 at 1:09 am | Reply
  18. Happy in Oz

    Naomi, perhaps you think that Jesus was born just to save a country that was formed 1700 years later? Most devout Christians I know despise anyone who is different from them and are the first ones to pick up a gun to go to war. They are also some of the most narrow minded. Most atheists I know are quite happy to let people do their own thing (including follow the Christian religion) as long as they don't break the law. Most atheists I know are far more open minded and accepting of others.

    August 26, 2011 at 11:52 pm | Reply
  19. Scott

    How is it that women taken into police custody for committing crimes (who don't ask for help) and then set free and go and do it again.... And thats a MANs fault?

    August 27, 2011 at 6:37 pm | Reply
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    August 27, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Reply
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    August 28, 2011 at 11:05 am | Reply
  22. Antonio Velasquez Jr.

    Oh ,and let us not forget the daily defacation process.let those enemies experience permanent intestinal blockage.hardy har har!

    August 28, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Reply
  23. Antonio Velasquez Jr.

    Royal Bloods ,do you have an ample life supply of toilet tissue? Or are you Royally immaculately constipated ?

    August 29, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Reply
  24. Another John

    Naomi, you are right! As a man, I was able to find that "who" in my own life and married her. 🙂 Hooray! For people dissing Naomi, why destroy the dreams of the innocent, Roman Cathllic believers, who are taught what is truly good for us as Catholics, and support her (our) way too?

    August 29, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Reply
  25. Another John

    Whoops – Roman Catholic, is the correct spelling. Sorry!

    August 29, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Reply
  26. Another John

    BTW, according to the latest Easter prayers within the current version of the Liturgy, people who are engaged in prostitution are being asked to accept Jesus Christ back into their lives, and if they can do without prostitution and obtain as well as provide forgiveness for the many offenses against God and humanity (disruptions in life, a guilt-ridden agenda, painful forms of hidden adultery resulting in loss of understanding and honest communication between married people, negative effects upon religious children who can be very intolerant in their ways of thought, and generally, depressing ways, ultimately, of dealing with quintessential lonliness and despair for one reason or another). May God have mercy on all of us!

    August 29, 2011 at 9:19 pm | Reply
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  28. Antonio Velasquez Jr.

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    August 31, 2011 at 11:09 am | Reply
  31. al capone

    this state is bankrupt financially and morally

    August 31, 2011 at 11:37 am | Reply
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  35. A woman

    Wow really people? Attacking so many people, like christians and grown women or men for that matter who do what they want with their own lives and as for as women having sex for money, how many women have sex on a night they arent in the mood just to keep ur man happy, give him some just to get him to do what u want or to keep him buying those expensive presents or how bout to just keep him paying the bills? They may not admit it to the world but every woman has used sex as a bargaining tool to get what they want, so really u arent all that much different than those who u call whores and prostitutes! They just a lil better at it than u!

    September 6, 2011 at 5:28 am | Reply
  36. John

    They can legislate until the end of time and prostitution will still exist. It will do so as long as sexual desire is an inherent part of the human condition. By all means combat trafficking but leaving prositiution in its current legislative state will do nothing but further endanger those who choose/are forced to seek employ in this area.

    September 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Reply
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