June 23rd, 2011
12:08 PM ET

Trafficking victim: You were getting my body, you weren’t getting me

[cross-posted from In the Arena]

By CNN's Jay Kernis

Marlene Carson is the founder of Rahab’s Hideaway, a reach and rescue organization in Columbus, Ohio, established for those who have fallen prey to human trafficking/prostitution. Her success story is just one example of what can be done to combat human trafficking in the United States.

Here, she answers a few questions about her harrowing time in slavery, an epiphany years later and how she helps trafficking victims today.

You spent 20 years running an escort service, as you have said, selling everything but your own soul. For those who may not understand, why is that life considered modern-day slavery?
To understand, let me tell you my story first. There was a pimp in Columbus. I was 15 years old. There was this guy who moved into his neighborhood with his wife–who we later found out was his first victim.

They courted our neighborhood for a year and one half. They knew the parents. They went to the PTA meetings. Their house was the hang-out house for the kids in the neighborhood. They gained our trust.

They asked four girls if they could take us to New York for Labor Day weekend. They took us to New York and we get there and we found out, instead of going to a Broadway show, we were being sold.

And over the next four days - well this gentlemen had set up dates. Three of us were virgins, including myself. So I had no idea about what they were talking about. They brought three of us back to Columbus. Four left, three came back. The fourth, in her attempt to escape, was taken in a car took her to Connecticut with two men. They beat and raped her, but she did not die.

Back in Columbus — I lived 800 feet from my junior high school–two weeks later, the guy pulls up and says: get in the car. I won’t. They snatched me and kept me for 8 months. They had me all over the country — in prostitution, going from state to state.

Did your parents and police search for you?
They looked for me. I went from being a straight-A student on the drill team and cheerleading–to absolutely nothing.

Why couldn’t you escape?
You’re 15 years old. There is no tangible support system around you. You have no money. You are scared to death. And honestly, I’ve turned tricks with law enforcement. My trust in the legal system was none. You don’t have anymore trust in systems or people. Who are you going to turn to?

How were you able to free yourself?
I don’t think it was a matter of freeing myself. It was having epiphany about those core values and who I was. It happened in my mid-20s– it was taking back my identity.

A church was involved?
It was definitely church, and that’s how I got out of it. A church group helped me all the way through. A pastor told me: when you’re ready, I am here. It took me three years to build a relationship with the church.

Do victims of human trafficking walk through the front door Rahab’s Hideaway? I mean do you have to, in effect, kidnap victims from traffickers?
We actually have a street outreach team. We work with our local Columbus Police Dept, especially if it’s a minor girl. There has to be a strategic plan before we snatch the girl. We will get a man to go pick her up, as if it’s a date–we will even give her 50 bucks to take back. But all the while she is giving us information—and we are planning how to get her out.

In three years I’ve saved 25 girls from the ages of 14 to 40.

Who are these victims?
These are girls who are vulnerable youth. These girls come from various kinds of homes and economic backgrounds and ethnicities. A trafficker does not care if you are rich or poor. But what a real trafficker wants is a product. They want a trophy that a man can put on his arm and pay top dollar for.

The myth is that these girls are inner city and on drugs and homeless is a lie.

I have a client who is 18 years old, was sold by her mother from the age of 6. She had four pregnancies before she was 13, and she has one living 7-year-old child now. She’s been been with us for over a year and we have her in a treatment program now. Even with her, when I seen the long-tem effects–because there was a parent who sold her—there is deep psychological damage. And she still loves her mother. It’s her mother.

How does someone put her or his life together again?
Time. Oh, my gosh, it literally takes time. You have to begin to trust yourself. When I came out of prostitution, I went in a virgin and I came out with four children. And so: no education—no real job skills, and you got to feed your kids. You have to be willing to go through process and it’s not an easy one.

And then at some level, you have to be able to trust somebody. If there’s one person who has a sincere desire to trust you, you have to trust that help.

And learn to trust men?
Oh absolutely, and you know what’s interesting? I never did drugs or alcohol. I was in an elite class, and so there was not a lot of psychological abuse by men. Just the pimp.

While it all seems confusing—it seems like I was repeatedly raped–there was still some sense of me on the inside. You were getting my body, but you weren’t getting me.

And that’s why I was able to strengthen what didn’t die in me–the core values that my parents put in me.

I think many people would be shocked to realize that modern-day slavery exists in the United States. In your view, how widespread is the problem?
I don’t think it can be measured—it’s such an underground industry. It’s in every state, in every neighborhood. I lived in one of the most affluent neighborhoods in Columbus when I was in prostitution.

I think it’s important to understand that human trafficking is a $39 to 44 billion-dollar-a-year industry. But these are not guys roaming the streets looking for a good time. These are men who can pay $200, $300, $500 an hour. So these are the people you see on the TV selling cars, people you think you can go to, and some of them are buying kids.

And what can be done about it?
Education and awareness. Families building a sense of community with your children.

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soundoff (144 Responses)
  1. rwell

    I know a male that has been doing this for over 16 years and he thinks it's okay to pay for sex. He has spent thousands of dollars he doesn't have. All who know him stay away from him and his children are confused and ashamed.

    June 23, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Reply
    • Pimp Bob

      I Think your writing about yourself PEDO.

      June 24, 2011 at 11:03 am | Reply
      • max

        Why would you say such an ignorant statement? You have no evidence.

        June 24, 2011 at 7:55 pm |
    • BananasandLice

      Rwell, your candid statement really bothered me. I pray that you will have the discernment to know what to do.
      Some people leave behind them a trail of tears. I can't believe that his lifestyle will serve him well when he is on his deathbed.

      June 25, 2011 at 11:30 am | Reply
  2. wkh

    I think comparing this to slavery is really pushing it. And demeaning to the women who do it by choice.

    June 23, 2011 at 7:39 pm | Reply
    • wtf

      "demeaning to the women who do it by choice" ... You mean ... WHORES?

      June 23, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Reply
      • jgsldkfds

        sex workers.

        June 24, 2011 at 10:23 am |
    • Michelle

      This woman said she was abducted at the age of 15 and sold to men. One of the other girls she who was abducted along with her was beaten and raped when she tried to leave.

      I think it's appropriate to call this slavery.

      June 24, 2011 at 10:51 am | Reply
      • amanda

        the term "slavery" might be appropriate for the one that was beaten but not the other three. notice she says that only one was raped. it's telling. maybe if they had their "druthers," they would not have gone into prostitution. but hey, if i had my druthers, i would have messed around the internet better ten, fifteen years ago and would have become the founder of ebay or facebook. but i digress.

        the point it, these girls were BOUGHT into prostitution, not forced into it. this guy probably showered them with gifts and otherwise ingratiated himself with them. so when he asked them to prostitute themselves (probably promising them a cut of the money or some other gift), they were probably hesitant but not outraged and just went along with it. i don't believe there was coercion.

        i mean, why didn't they report him to the police when they got back from NYC? they hadn't turned cop tricks by then. they should have at least told their parents. but they didn't because they didn't want to stop the gravy train of gifts and goodies and maybe limo rides and hotel rooms, etc. notice how she points out a couple of times that she wasn't just a street walker but a "high class" escort designed to look good as an arm candy. she did not find her work repulsive, at least not TOO repulsive, and thought it was a decent way to earn a decent living. at some point, she decided the ickiness of it all was too much. but again, she plainly points out that no one held her captive. there was no heart-racing moment where she risked it all to escape the clutches of a brutal pimp. she just walked away because she was done with selling her body for cash.

        it's kind of pathetic but i think she looks down on street walkers. she really kind of prides herself on having had been a classy, desirable, intelligent call girl to the middle and upper middle class.

        CNN needs to get its head out of its rear and stop trying to sell every case of prostitution as trafficking. sometimes, girls are damaged and make bad choices. sometimes, they are not damaged but can't walk away from the good life of being a well paid prostitute. it's no different from inner-city youths who choose the drug trade over schooling. not the choice a lot of people would make but a choice just the same, not an enslavement.

        June 24, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
      • Kevin

        Amanda, Your reply is full of rhetorical slants, specifically changing the word "slave" to "prostitute"- making it sound voluntary. Women's empowerment yay! and don't everyone love money and Prada? Your statements are invalid – these "prostitutes" were held against their will. This is a fact that she already stated – not intimated, eluded to, or suggested. They were VIRGINS, Amanda, and they were scared to death. Why don't you go back to that hell-hole you crawled out from.

        June 24, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
      • amanda

        kevin, i'd tell you to go back to your hole, too, but first make a stop at your local elementary school. don't make it a pit stop but a good long one.

        now, where does it say she was held against her will? i do see that line where she says, "I don’t think it was a matter of freeing myself. It was having epiphany about those core values and who I was. It happened in my mid-20s– it was taking back my identity." i.e. "i woke up and said 'i am a freaking prostitute and selling my body for money. maybe i'll try something else.'"

        also, i don't know if it's your stupidity or a sly attempt to validate your point but she did NOT say she was raped as you have in quotes. she said "While it all seems confusing—it seems like I was repeatedly raped..." so why is it she "seems like" she was raped? do you think a real rape victim goes to the police and say, "well, it's kind of confusing but it seems like i was raped." do you think a real, traumatized rape victim has the luxury to ruminate like that?

        comprehende? you stupid? do you not know how to read?

        and if she were so scared to death for having lost her virginity forcibly, why didn't she tell her parents and get these guys busted? do you think they wouldn't have had an automatic conviction when you have four girls saying the guy set them up with paying customers? do you not think the guy would not have ended up in the slammer for years and years for also kidnapping them for 9 months two weeks after that for REAL sex-trafficking if it was against her will? it was cross state lines. that's a federal conviction.

        she was back for two weeks between jaunts. if she had told her parents, they'd know right away where to look for her, no? but she didn't tell them because she didn't want them to find her. and she still didn't tell on him after she got "found" after she turned aged of consent because she wanted to keep prostituting herself.

        if you aren't too slow and you think the scenario played out differently, spell out how else she could have ended up doing what she did not just for the four day weekend but for 20+ years.

        you're a moron. you should try being disgusting instead. probably help you get a better paying job.

        June 24, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
      • cc


        The "happy prostitute" is a myth. Regardless of whether you use the term "slave" or "prostitute", they mean the same thing. No one HAPPILY prostitutes herself. Virtually every prostitute is coerced into the "profession". The 2-3 "happy prostitutes" pro-sex trade people parade around are the exceptions that PROVE the rule. Even those who claim to enjoy prostitution would swear up and down they'd never want their children to get into such a "trade".

        June 26, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
      • Lemony

        CC: I think you should read that article about Melissa Petro. It is kind of interesting and she seems to imply that most, not just one or two, sex workers do it by choice. She apparently found enough that went into it by choice to write an undergraduate thesis on it.

        The old saying goes that even thieves don't want their children to go thieving. That doesn't mean they themselves didn't go into thieving by choice.

        June 26, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • KenX

      I think comparing it to slavery is ridiculous too. Unless they are chained to the floor, they can leave it.

      What is happening is a few poeple are being victimized and the rest are trying to play victim after they have willfully entered prosittution and profitted for it for years.

      June 24, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Reply
      • amanda

        well, it's a lot easier to explain to others later in your life that you were victimized than to say you went into ti because you liked gucci bags more than trigonometry.

        June 24, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
      • Medievna

        Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? You must be in heaven.

        August 11, 2011 at 3:11 am |
    • Harley

      You're ignorance is amazing. You have to be one of the perverts who feel exploiting women in normal. You're probably the one buying them. You're a sick person. Did you not read her story. She was forced into this!! And women who do it consentually only make it harder for those who are forced to do it. It causes ignorance such as yours. No its not ok to sell women for sex. Do you think the ones who "choose" are phsycologically ok? And how dare you compare it with this. It is very demeaning and it's not safe or right no matter what the circumstances. It damages a person brain. The world could do without another ignorant person like you. How dare you support this kind of treatment and how dare you exist!!

      July 14, 2011 at 11:31 am | Reply
  3. ihatecorruption

    At least you've been needed by somebody.. I'm trying to get help loudly for 8 days and nobody is listening.. ( ihatecorruption.wordpress.com )

    June 24, 2011 at 7:36 am | Reply
  4. jgsldkfds

    Laws in this country is wrong.
    Either both porn and prostitution should be legal or illegal.

    June 24, 2011 at 10:22 am | Reply
    • Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

      prostitution occurs at truckstops as well.Support your local Lot Lizard AKA Ho. Those hookers should name that website:Truckerporn.com LMAO:)

      June 24, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Reply
  5. Rob

    Too many holes in this story – so they take 4 girls to NY – They are forced on these dates....go back to columbus, and she doesnt tell her parents??? THey dont call police and/or kill this dude themselves?? Doesnt add up.

    June 24, 2011 at 11:49 am | Reply
    • amanda

      exactly. i stated it above, but these girls (except the one that was beaten) went into it because they liked the perks of having cash in their hands. maybe they went into it hesitantly but they went willingly nonetheless. it's not sex trafficking. just girls with questionable values who preferred lifestyles of the rich and famous (or something like that) to schooling and hard work.

      June 24, 2011 at 2:13 pm | Reply
      • sarah

        she was 15- that makes it rape even if she was "willing". they were children, most of these girls are probably easily manipulated by threats bc they do not have an adult braing BC THEY ARE CHILDREN. What the hell is wrong with you?

        June 24, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
      • amanda

        obviously she didn't think it was rape. she didn't report it to anybody. and she specifically states that the one girl was raped but she tellingly omits that the other three were.

        the guy wasn't good by any means. but she wasn't a seven year old tricked with a can of soda. she liked the lifestyle of being a paid prostitute. you can make statutory rape a crime but if someone is bent on becoming a "victim," what are you gonna do?

        June 24, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
      • cc

        "amanda", I highly doubt you're female. You sound more like a pimp, eager to convince everyone that prostitution is a "voluntary" excursion so the cops will leave you alone and you can continue to profit off the bodies of others.

        June 26, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
      • clopez

        If she's a pimp, she's a damn smart one. Probably makes more money than you. Maybe give it a try.

        June 26, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
      • thatsfunny

        If she's a pimp, why does she want to legalize prostitution so that pimps will disappear?

        June 26, 2011 at 11:02 pm |
    • starride

      I agree that there is too much information missing from this story. As a father of 2 girls and an avid supporter of the 2nd amendment I can tell you this. If my girls ever disappear the police better find them before I do, if not they wont like cleaning up the mess I will leave in my wake.

      June 24, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Reply
    • pragmatist

      Rob and Amanda:

      Your search for duplicity in this story is disgusting. That woman has been through hell and is trying to help others to escape. You have no idea why she made the decisions she did because you have not walked in her shoes.

      The sex trafficking going on worldwide of young girls and women is an ongoing tragedy and good people need to put a stop to it.

      You imply that some women are just lazy whores who choose that lifestyle. Well maybe 1% but what about the other 99% some of whom were never given a choice? How many men do you service before you believe what they're calling you? How do you go home when so many people blame the victim...as you two are doing? How will you pay the bills if you get out? What the about the damaged girls who equate sex/lust with love? Or believe that's the closest they'll ever get to love?

      If you believe this woman and the most prostitutes rationally choose to be prostitutes, well I believe you're delusional and/or have some agenda of your own.

      June 24, 2011 at 3:08 pm | Reply
      • amanda

        yeah, my agenda is to have more prostitutes around because that's so good for property values and tourism. WTH? are you so feeble minded you can't get around the fact that prostitution is a symptom, not the disease?

        THIS particular woman chose to go into the profession. she says herself that she never needed to escape, she just needed to make the choice to walk away. why does she not state that she was raped? why does she not state that the manhunt for her was on for 9 months and only ended when they found this missing neighbor? is it maybe because she reached the age of consent and it was no use for her parents to keep looking for her anymore?

        i do not call prostitutes lazy whores. that's what you call them. this particular woman liked the lifestyle more than she liked school and hard work. that is her right and i don't see anything wrong with that. you have a problem with that because you look down on women in prostitution unless they were forced into it.

        there are also other women who go into prostitution because they are damaged and some pimp did get a hold of her and she allowed herself to be abused. that's probably the bulk of street walkers. so now, you are going to demonize the pimps (probably who were victims at some point themselves) and work to get the women off the street. now what? does that take care of the damaged psyches and their utter lack of skills and education? what are these women going to do for a living? they can't all be rescue counselors. what are they going to do? and what is the next generation of emotionally damaged, uneducated, at-risk girls going to do? do you think they'll all end up as doctors and lawyers because there are no more pimps around?

        as hard as it may be for you to believe, for some women without other opportunities, or just women who might prefer it, prostitution would be their best livelihood, IF people would stop stigmatizing them and if the trade became legitimate so that violence wouldn't be a problem.

        leave prostitutes alone, except to get them legitimatized so they can have access to law enforcement, and go work on reducing birth among high risk groups. that takes care of emotionally abused young girls who end up on the streets.

        oh, and get a clue.

        June 24, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
      • Kevin

        You are a disgusting human being. Your arguments are full of rhetoric and sophistry. Your arguments are neither sound nor valid. You only see what you want to see (self-serving agenda) and not seeing it through the eyes of the story-teller. This girl is telling a story of being held against her will. You're telling a story about a nice profession that benefits the woman. You are in complete denial. You are deluding yourself with your own self-fulfilling circular reasoning. Leave us alone and go get some help !

        June 24, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
      • amanda

        see, kevin. you are a horrible writer and debater. you don't SHOW how your opponent puts up bad argument. you don't say, your argument abc is rhetoric because in the article she clearly says xyz and it contradicts what you say. you just go on using words you don't understand (i know you don't understand them because you have no examples of these accusations you make) but i know it comforts your insecurity complex to use "big" words so i am going to let it pass.

        June 24, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
      • fred

        I think you may have your numbers backwards it's more like 99% of sex workers do it because they choose too and 1% are forced into it , i am totally against anyone forceing a minor or an adult for that matter to do anything they don't want to do , but i have worked with hundereds of "hookers" and never met one yet that didn't want to do what they do for money or drugs or simply because they are addicted to sex , it pays well and comes with a lot of perks , yes there are bad men that take advantage of these women from time to time but if you lie down with dogs and come up with flea's you shouldn't be surprised ! Slavery is a terrible thing , forced sexual labor is a terrible thing , prostitution is the oldest job in the world , i'm having a hard time grasping that 99% of all prostitutes are forced slaves , i.e. ever been to Amsterdam????

        June 25, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
      • Nonya Business

        lulz, were you working with hundreds of prostitutes horizontally?

        June 25, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • Kevin

      "Obviously she didn't think it was rape".......really Amanda? Did you even read the article?? How about the part where she said "I was repeatedly raped–there was still some sense of me on the inside. You were getting my body, but you weren’t getting me." .... was that not "telling" as you say? You are a very sick and twisted individual, seriously.

      June 24, 2011 at 7:20 pm | Reply
      • amanda

        that was taking a quote out of context so an "F" for execution but an "A" for effort.

        June 24, 2011 at 8:18 pm |
    • clopez

      If she's a pimp, she's a damn smart one. Probably makes more money than you. Maybe give it a try.

      June 26, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Reply
  6. Bob

    "A church was involved?
    It was definitely church, and that’s how I got out of it."

    From one brainwashing to another.

    June 24, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Reply
  7. Mavvv

    My wife gives me alot of abuse. I am trapped in this body.....post op. Let us all pray for my happy ending.........AMEN !

    June 24, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Reply
  8. Truthteller

    Guess what? Nobody cares about your stupid mind! get over it, when will prostitution be legal in the country???

    June 24, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Reply
  9. Melissa

    This type of thing sadly happens all over the country – I think its really important that we all make an effort to learn the signs of human trafficking. If you see anything, or need resources, you can call the National Human Trafficking Resource Center Hotline on 1.888.373.7888

    June 24, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Reply
  10. Just Jenn

    I used think that prostitution should be legal, to each his own, blah blah blah. But all that really does is protect the johns. Keeping it illegal gives a law enforcement a gateway to helping victims of sex trafficking, rape and abuse.

    June 24, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Reply
    • dyana catherine

      Very astute of you. Women must take a stand and not collapse out of fear, low self worth, lonliness, drugs, alcohol (gateways to loosing oneself to illusions of man's world)! Banding together, standing as one against this form of sexual tyranny is necessary. Blessings on those who have courage and strength to withstand the lure of false love!!

      June 24, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Reply
    • amanda

      what's wrong with prostitution? obviously, this woman preferred it to flipping burgers, grinding away at Banana Republic or filings papers at a business office. and she isn't traumatized by her experience. she is a bit shamed that she chose easy money over conventional values so she calls what she did trafficking but she's very clear that none of her customers abused her.

      she points out that the pimps weren't good. that i agree on. and that is why prostitution should be legalized, so that we take pimps out of the equation. without pimps, there would be no violence and no coercion. just people making free choices.

      June 24, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Reply
      • Just Jenn

        this particular woman was kidnapped at the age of 15, the law says you dont have the mind set to make choices when you are 15, so essentially she was being repeatedly raped from the time she was 15. The majority of prostitutes are drug addicts and victims of abuse and they are women. Men prey upon these women because they lack the emotional and mental capacity to make decisions for themselves. They are considered property. Legalizing it does not take away the fact that these women are preyed upon, it doesnt take away the violence that occurs in the industry and doesnt cure the demons that causes someone to do it in the first place. Keeping it illegal maybe a prostitutes only way of getting the help they need

        June 24, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
      • amanda

        wrong. the law says you don't have the mind set to make choices but obviously she did. she chose to go with it. one of her friends made the choice not to go with it and paid the price. i find it hilarious you call it rape when the woman herself does not call it rape. and she didn't even mind the customers, just the middle man who took a cut of her pay and bullied her.

        which brings me to the point, when you legalize prostitution, a bullied, beaten prostitute can go to the police. then the pimps and violent johns will not bother her because she's no longer a criminal but a normal person who's got rights like everybody else. when the prohibition was in effect, there was a lot of gang violence around alcohol smuggling. do you see anybody dying over alcohol sales now?

        plus, you are trying to pigeon hole this woman into a sad little abused girl from a broken home without loving parents. she says herself she came from a good family and a good neighborhood. and her command of english is good. she obviously went into it for the money. she's like amy fisher. the yuck factor of being a call girl wasn't enough to overcome the cash payout.

        your problem isn't prostitution. you have a problem with social inequality. i wish we were all independently wealthy and we could all live in peace and harmony. but it ain't gonna happen just because you get rid of prostitution.

        June 24, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
      • Kevin

        Amanda – "obviously, this woman preferred it to flipping burgers, grinding away at Banana Republic or filings papers at a business office" – because these are the only other options?? Your statements are hypothetical.
        "and she isn't traumatized by her experience" classic downplaying. Nobody said "a bit."
        "she is a bit shamed " oh really? And there's the "a bit" downplay again. Where did you get that from?
        "he chose easy money over conventional values" and what conventional values would that be, Amanda, why don't you share with us what your idea of conventional values are because that would be like watching a train wreck. I'll get the popcorn.

        June 24, 2011 at 7:13 pm |
      • amanda

        oh, whattsamatta? is little kevy playing mad to show what a tough little man he is?

        she was only a wittle bit ashamed because she not only prostituted herself, but she also ran an escort service because it was even better money to take a cut of what the other wittle helpless gurls were making. wittle ashamed gurls don't think to themselves, i am so ashamed, let me go upstream in this cash business so i can pimp other wittle gurls instead of someone else pimping me.

        dang, you are stooopid.

        June 24, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
    • cc

      More progressive countries than the USA also thought legalizing prostitution may be the way to protect prostitutes. Instead, the situation for prostitutes got worse. Trafficking of captive women and girls escalated and now the government of that country has realized it's mistake (I THINK it was perhaps the netherlands...I forget).

      Meanwhile, another country in that neighborhood decided to criminalize prostitution, except they only punished johns and not the prostitutes. Now, prostitution in that country has dropped to near nil and they have virtually no problem with human trafficking.

      People need to get realistic especially those horny pathetic johns who no one wants. Prostitution promotes human trafficking and legalizing it makes it easier on the traffickers. It's easy for the pimps to hide in the shadows while the sex victims are ignored by the police because they're supposedly "legal" and "willing".

      To those who wonder how any woman can be "dumb" enough to buy into the whole bs fed to them by the pimps, well let's see, didn't the entire country of Germany buy into Hitler's spiel? Many of these women are from poor countries with no education. When a man promises them a waitressing job in a rich country, they believe him.

      June 26, 2011 at 9:22 pm | Reply
      • Chuckie

        Horny pathetic johns that no one wants? Is that what you call Rob Lowe and Charlie Sheen? LOL.

        June 27, 2011 at 1:26 am |
  11. njames

    I am ashamed that this country doesn't look at girls and women who have to sell their bodies as slavery. It is slavery when you have to do something you don't want that goes against what you are: a human being. Now, the other side of this is that this country is set up for MEN"S PLEASURE! That is why we have violence, crime, rape and by the way, war. Stop giving in to MEN"S PLEASURE

    June 24, 2011 at 2:49 pm | Reply
    • amanda

      you need help.

      June 24, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Reply
      • nicole

        and you're an idiot!!

        June 24, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
      • njames

        No. You need help because your brainwashed to not put your self-esteem first over men's needs. So... get real
        "Boy Toy"

        June 24, 2011 at 6:31 pm |
    • Kevin

      Because society is still buying into the Alpha-male mentality. Women who buy into this profession are subservient – but they delude themselves into believing that they are alpha-females, equating themselves with their oppressor, and calling it feminine power.

      June 24, 2011 at 7:22 pm | Reply
    • amanda

      oh, kevy. i'll just bet heid fleiss and other people who this woman was trying to emulate laugh all the way to the piggy bank while choking on your bit about "delusional alpha-female wannabes." dang, i'll bet you'd like to be a delusional alpha-female wannabe sitting in a $3MM mansion on a hill in brentwood or wherever she was reigning.

      June 24, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Reply
      • ethan

        Amanda, you are the dumbest girl ive ever seen in my life, why dont you go and experience sex slavery and come back and tell us the same thing you are saying now. Get kidnapped,raped, service 30 men a day and not get any money and then tell us its a choice, when you try and leave you get beat and sometimes killed so stfu. Ill be praying God opens your heart.

        June 25, 2011 at 9:14 am |
      • Brittany

        I guess you're somebody really swell? Say STFU and I pray to God in the same sentence. You give Christians a bad name and I apologize to Amanda on behalf of Christians for your rude behavior.

        June 25, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
    • cc

      njames, you're absolutely correct in your statement. Ignore amanda. "she's" a mouth breather.

      June 26, 2011 at 9:24 pm | Reply
  12. KenX

    Here is something I notice about the news. If it really is news, all the news outlets report. Only CNN is beating this drum. This is not news. This very narrowly focused political activism.

    June 24, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Reply
    • ahduth

      Vanity Fair had a rather disturbing article about it recently:


      June 27, 2011 at 9:32 am | Reply
  13. Just Jenn

    which brings me to the point, when you legalize prostitution, a bullied, beaten prostitute can go to the police. then the pimps and violent johns will not bother her because she's no longer a criminal but a normal person who's got rights like everybody else

    Unfortunately i dont think you have a strong grasp on what it is like when you live on the streets or in ghettos. Domestic violence is undereported but its illegal. Even if prostitution were legal, it would not automatically free prostitutes. The majority have drug problems at the very least and even woman from the above article said she had zero trust for law enforcement because they were taking advantage of her too. And to be honest i am not even sure if we are reading the same article, this woman was scared and penniless, where do you get that she didnt mind being a prostitute?

    June 24, 2011 at 4:26 pm | Reply
    • amanda

      where did she say she was penniless? she says it's hard to leave prostitution because THEN she'd be penniless and have no way to feed her kids. and did you not read the part where she said she didn't escape but just needed to have the epiphany, you know like, "it's kind of icky selling my body for money. it's not what mom and dad would have wished for me."

      ok. so some women stay in abusive relationships and some prostitutes stay with abusive pimps because they are damaged. but some of them put up with it because if they go to the police, they are busted. so let's keep it status quo. we still have women/prostitutes in abusive relationships. now let's try to legalize prostitution. we have the women who stay with violent husbands because they are damaged and prostitutes who stay with pimps for the same reason. but now, we don't have prostitutes who stay with them because they have to, because if they didn't, there'd be another pimp down the street who'll beat her up to be her protector and get a cut of her pay. now, we also don't have johns who torture them and kill them because it's a legit business and prostitutes can even have laws passed which require customers to identify themselves. which is better?

      or do you think somehow you are going to eradicate prostitution after maybe tens of thousands of years because tomorrow everyone is going to wake up and we're going to have change we can believe in?

      June 24, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Reply
    • cc

      After reading about the two NYPD cops who raped a drunk woman they were SUPPOSED TO ESCORT HOME, I can completely understand the reluctance to go to cops. I really think the 2-3 people who are CONSISTENTLY defending pimps and the sexual slavery of women and girls are actually human traffickers themselves or just dumb trolls.

      June 26, 2011 at 9:26 pm | Reply
  14. Kevin

    "where did she say she was penniless? she says it's hard to leave prostitution because THEN she'd be penniless and have no way to feed her kids." THEREIN lies the foundaion of your delusion – You do not understand the basic concept of slavery. You keep categorically denying the meaning of the terms. So which one is it? – Do you categorically deny that slavery exists? OR that you do not understand the term slavery? You certainly do not seem to grasp the basic universal ethical principles of human rights – or deny them by distorting the terms stated in the article.

    June 24, 2011 at 7:28 pm | Reply
    • amanda

      oh, wittle kevie. is it slavery when someone doesn't want to become the manager at the Limited Express instead of being a madame because the pay and hours just aren't nearly as good? do you not think this woman could have gotten a job flipping burgers? how about at a target? or a waitress at a diner? do you not think women all over the US support their children on those jobs?

      also, when you get YOURSELF a better paying job, take a bus trip to nevada and see that prostitution is completely legal and apparently is not a violation of human rights right here in the good ol' US of A.

      by the way, it might have been better to study something useful like accounting or engineering instead of philosophy or comp lit in college. you would ramble less in nonsensical jargon and you'd be making better money today. plus, people would like you more.

      June 24, 2011 at 8:35 pm | Reply
      • pragmatist

        Why do you denigrate others with different views?
        I was upset with your framing of the woman in this article so will apologize for being less than being neutral earlier. AND I will agree with you...prostitution should be legal so women who do this will be able to reap all the financial rewards rather than the pimps. But most of these women are troubled and the deplorable situation so many find themselves in is so very sad.
        Are you a prostitute wishing what you do is legal? Otherwise I don't understand your vociferous postings.

        June 24, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
      • amanda

        oh, come on. that windbag kevin started it. don't you think he was a comp lit or philosophy major? he just goes on and on whining with words no one besides a grad-student-wannabe's uses. it's embarrassing.

        anyway, what i don't like is people thinking that if we somehow make pimping (because that's what this was, not coercion or some other nefarious crime, just someone taking a cut of something in exchange for protection or feeding customers or some similar crap) more harshly punishable, girls and women will magically stop prostituting and become wal-mart managers and physician's assistants.

        a lot of these women have major emotional problems. if they stop prostituting, the problems are still going to be there. they will just do something else equally self-destructive. addressing the prostitution is like giving an aspirin for a toothache. you need to go to the dentist and get that cavity drilled out.

        second, people seem to think that because prostitution is a socially unacceptable profession, no woman goes into it for the easy money. i am pretty sure no woman becomes a street walker for the easy money, but are there "private" prostitutes who work for themselves and make what they consider good money? are you kidding me? there are accounts of women who now actually brag about having had been call girls. one was even so proud, she advertised her history on some blog and got canned from her teaching gig. i even read about call girls who were pissed that their customers wouldn't take them out to dinner while they were getting paid $1000 ($1000!) per hour. then there's that call girl who was caught with eliot spitzer. do you think she was coerced? people have to accept that for some women, their bodies and their youth is the most lucrative asseet they have. and i don't see what's wrong with that except that prostitution doesn't have a long shelf life so i would hope that the women plan for their financial future wisely.

        that's all. get to the root of the problem with emotionally damaged prostitutes. and accept that for some people, prostitution is a preferred vocational choice.

        people need to stop treating everyone in any one industry as helpless little victims. if they are not emotionally unstable, people generally do a pretty good job of figuring out what their best options are. you shouldn't think that somehow you know someone better than she herself does.

        June 24, 2011 at 11:14 pm |
  15. TB

    Amanda it is apparant that you are a lil too consumed with this article. You do need help. I can answer you why she mite have not told her parents. Its hard to tell your parents something like that when it will crush them. You need to go thru it ur self to see

    June 24, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Reply
    • amanda

      she didn't tell her parents because it would crush them? did she then go prostitute herself for the next 20 years because that didn't crush them? you know, "hey, my daughter is a prostitute and pimp to other young girls. but thank god no creep took her away for a holiday weekend and FORCED her to prostitute instead of doing it for herself because that would CRUSH me"


      June 24, 2011 at 11:23 pm | Reply
  16. Survivor

    Ok I read this article and I NEVER comment on CNN articles, but after reading a few of these comments I just had to say something. And my words are defending girls like the ones in the article and MYSELF who had NO CHOICE and were forced into this.

    "went into it because they liked the perks of having cash in their ands.. maybe they went into it hesitantly but went willingly nonetheless. ...doesn't tell her parents, doesn't call police, why wouldn't she tell someone"

    Words like that only come out of the mouths of (fortunate!) people who haven't experienced it. Yes there are some that willingly went into it, but the vast majority are like the GIRL in this article and MYSELF who were forced into it, and my responses are defending the ones who had NO CHOICE.

    1. There is NO PERK about being forced to do this. You either do what they say or get beaten, hurt more, killed, and/or they blackmail you by telling you they'll kill your family. I was a young teen, a normal suburban teenager, who got into this by being snatched in the middle of the afternoon out in public.

    I say again. There is NO PERK about being in this. When you are taken from your family and held against your will, you are TERRIFIED out of your MIND. You have NO IDEA of the threats and the fears that keep girls in it. Threats accompanied by physical, emotional and psychological abuse made by powerful and physically larger men are enough to keep a young girl quiet.

    2. "didn't tell her parents because it would crush them"
    In all likelihood she was threatened while being beaten that if she told, she or someone she cared deeply about would get hurt or worse. You have no idea of the power these men hold over you when they are around you or not.
    I STILL haven't told my parents beyond what happened because there is so much shame in it-not because I made the choice to get into it, but because it is VERY hard to tell my parents about what went on during those months because otherwise, if they knew, every time they'd look at me I know they'd be picturing me in that situation and they would be extremely sad. They know a little bit AFTER I GOT OUT, but beyond that they know nothing. Thank goodness they are supportive.
    It is easy to pick apart a news article from the comfort and safety of your home and see gaping holes and huge "why didn't they do this" statements, but usually statements like that are given under the assumption that the person HAD a choice, that they WEREN'T scared, weren't threatened, weren't completely scared out of their mind.
    And you know what else? Words like those "went into it because, didn't ask for help because" (which can come out of anyone's mouths, not attacking anyone here) make survivors even more hesitant to seek help. If the general society turns up their nose at us where else can we get help?

    I have read everything in the comments here and while I agree with some comments, I will not waste my breath defending myself against anonymous commenters who talk like they know all about this girl, her story, and sex trafficking when in truth they hardly know anything about all three.

    Those in general who dismiss this girl and her story would be more open-minded if she was someone they knew.

    June 25, 2011 at 1:04 am | Reply
    • amanda

      there is something wrong with your story, too. so a stranger kidnapped you out of nowhere and when you are "found" you don't tell the authorities you were beaten and raped and forced into prostitution? a real rape victim does not hold back such horrors. it is too traumatizing, the burden of secret is too much and the anger too overwhelming. obviously, this was someone you knew and there is some story with why you are "protecting" him/them.

      so why did this woman continue the "coercion" and run a prostitution ring herself? for twenty years, no less. was that coercion, too?

      why does she mention that she lived 800 ft from school? maybe to convince that she really was forced into the car because her story sounds so BS and we are led to believe that she went voluntarily? i mean, you could be kidnapped at any number of places. she could have been walking to a friend's house, to the corner store, to the park, just riding her bike around. any number of things. but she feels compelled to say she lived 800 ft from school but not say that she was kidnapped while she "was walking to school." so i don't even think she was walking to/from school when she supposedly was kidnapped. she lived 800 ft from school but school was out or she was playing hooky when she got into that car. besides, the guy knew where she lived. her neighbors knew his car. within 800 ft of school, there are going to be tons of other kids who see a kidnapping. it is not the optimal time for a guy to be snatching a girl he knows.

      and if someone is going to do something so brazen as to kidnap a girl and hold her hostage for 9 months, he's not going to risk being turned into the police by first taking her out of state for 4 days, getting her raped then returning her to her parents for two weeks. he only does that if he's testing the waters to see if she's going to go with the flow.

      there's just too much BS with the story. calling herself an elite prostitute. who does that? does a rape victim call herself an elite rape victim - "i was raped by a really good looking rich businessman. he raped at the plaza hotel"? does that sound right?

      she never once mentions that she was beaten. she says a friend was beaten. she even specifically states that the johns never psychologically abused her - because she was an elite prostitute. only her pimp PSYCHOLOGICALLY abused her. she doesn't mention that he beat her, does she? she was just sick of his blackmailing her for his cut and maybe taking sexual favors from her to keep his mouth shut. plus, does a rape victim say her rapers "never psychologically abused" her? rape victims don't have psychological trauma?

      this story is so BS. it's unbelievable the mental hoops people will jump through to paint this "elite" prostitute who says "it seems like i was raped" and admits that "it all seems confusing" as a victim when it's plain she went into it willingly.

      June 25, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Reply
      • nick

        She does mention physical (and thus not only psychological) violence: "The fourth, in her attempt to escape, was taken in a car took her to Connecticut with two men. They beat and raped her, but she did not die". Is not this clear enough?

        June 25, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
      • Nonya Business

        You fcking stupid? That's was only one of the four girls. She was never beaten.

        June 25, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
      • cc

        "Amanda", why are you on this site KNOWN to be combating trafficking victims and yet defending the traffickers? I'm glad I was born into a normal family and have an education so I won't spend the rest of my life as ignorant as you. Please, go take your pills and tell your nurses to restrict your computer time.

        June 26, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
  17. Geoff

    A 15 year old girl knows whats up.... She did it cause wanted to and liked the money and things it would buy. She still does making a good living being a professional victim. Doesn't make the pimp any less deserving of a lengthy stay in prison but I have little regard for this exploiter.

    June 25, 2011 at 4:27 am | Reply
    • clopez

      I couldn't agree more.

      June 26, 2011 at 10:08 pm | Reply
  18. Elle

    After a weekend with someone you are supposed to trust, and you are raped, (15 year olds cannot legally consent, regardless of their feelings on the subject) no matter if one "wants" it or not, it can take a while to tell parents, even the most supportive of parents. Then the article goes on to say she was forced into a car and kidnapped. At this point the girl in the article is definately not on board with becoming a prostitute. What Survivor says is true. We cannot know what happened next, but being kidnapped is scary enough, and adding being beaten to the mix and whether or not she was raped at that point by her captors is irrelevant. Something happened that got her started being prostituted. If she has no access to her parents, which we do not know. What we do know is that she made the choice to leave in her 20s and that she was not addicted to drugs. In an atmosphere of fear, not knowing who you can trust, who is safe, and how you can get out and still have your family be safe, after a prolonged period of this (even until she was legally able to consent), it becomes harder and harder to leave. She did get out and it was not law enforcement that helped her.

    What amanda says is true, if she were not further stigmatized by the legality of prostitution then she may have had more choices, but it is also true what survivor and kevin say, that if a person is truly fearful for thier life, and their world view is warped, knowing what the right choice is and how to get out can be difficult at best. Sweden recognized that people were being forced into prostitution and as long as it was illegal people who truly were being victimized would be fearful to get help, and they could be further peanalized for calling attention to themselves. So instead of making selling sex illegal, they made the purchasing of sex illegal, focusing on the real problem. The demand. When the demand diminished, so too did the supply. If prostitution is going to exist, I think it should exist when we know that 100% of the people doing the work are there because they want to be, not because they are under age or otherwise forced to be there. Prostitution stops being prostitution when someone is being forced against their will.

    June 25, 2011 at 6:42 am | Reply
    • amanda

      while i appreciate your diplomacy, i seriously doubt this woman was coerced into that car. and she also doesn't say she was beaten. she was never even psychologically traumatized by having had to have sex with the john, just by having to deal with the pimps.

      you are getting parts of that story wrong. she started prostituting at 15 and got out of prostitution at 25, or so she says. but you will note,, she also says she ran an escort service for 20 years. those numbers don't mesh up. . so i have to believe she stopped prostituting herself because that became distasteful to her but she continued to work in the trade (as a pimp) because the money was good.

      she is not a victim.

      June 25, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Reply
  19. Diane

    Yet another reason to legalize prostitution. If this activity which has been around since ancient times was brought into the light it could be regulated with medical care and testing and protection for the women involved. This would lead to the end of gangs making money by virtually enslaving young women.

    June 25, 2011 at 10:58 am | Reply
    • cc

      That's the biggest logical fallacy ever.
      1. they've done that in other countries already, and the legalization of prostitution resulted in a boom in the human trafficking industry. The victims received no money while the pimps got rich with impunity. All the trafficked girls ended up edging the "legitimate" prostitutes out of the business.
      2. LOTS of things are legal/illegal and does not do much to produce the intended results. Wife beating is illegal and yet it happens all the time. Drinking is legal at 21, and yet underaged people get drunk all the time. And let's not even forget about DUIs where people of the legal age to drink can't drink responsibly.

      June 26, 2011 at 9:32 pm | Reply
      • clopez

        I think you're just mad because your boyfriends spend money on prostitutes and not you. Maybe if you chilled out and stop treating sex as a dirty deed, you won't be so bitter and lonely.

        June 26, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
  20. Nia

    Amanda, you have NO CLUE. I pray to God that you or anyone you know or care about ever has to endure the life of slavery this woman went through. I feel sorry for you-compassionless and obviously miserable. It may do you well to visit a domestic violence shelter or take time to talk to a prostitute. I doubt very seriously that anyone who had a viable option to do something different with their life would opt to do so.
    I'll make a few assumptions about you: middle-aged, homely, soccer mom who lives in the suburbs and I would wage that your husband has cheated or is currently cheating on you, with prostitutes. Your gross indifference to this woman's plight says a ton about the person you are.

    June 25, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Reply
    • Nia

      *"...........would opt NOT to do so....."

      June 25, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Reply
    • amanda

      boo hoo hoo. a woman on the internet says i'm middle aged, homely, soccer mom (is that a bad thing?), in the suburbs (is that a bad thing, too?) and that my husband is cheating on me with a prostitute (maybe it's ok if he's cheating with my best friend?).

      since you're so ignorant of the world around you, why don't you google "melissa petro marie claire interview." here's an excerpt:

      "The point of my blog post was to criticize Craigslist for shutting down its adult-services section amid concerns that it enabled prostitution and exploitation of women. I argued that for all the victims in the adult-services section, there were a considerable number of people who chose sex work of their own free will, as I had done in college and grad school, to earn a little money. Prostitution is a far from perfect occupation — I will be the first to admit that — but it is an occupation, and it is an occupation that many individuals choose.

      I disclosed my history because I think if you’re going to state an opinion, you ought to back it up with your credentials. A lot of people have such strong opinions about sex work and yet they have no experience or personal knowledge whatsoever. I don’t claim to be an expert on anything other than my own experience. I’ve been a stripper and I sold sex. I also conducted interviews with sex workers across Europe and in the United States — this research became my undergraduate thesis at Antioch College. "

      yeah, she just sounds so victimized, so traumatized, so violated. she does sound a lot more articulate and intelligent than you do, though.

      June 25, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Reply
    • Brittany

      Again, someone who openly flouts the central Christian tenet of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Let me guess, you are a bitter, narrow-minded bible thumping bigot who hates gays and no one wants to hang around you because they are so sick of your holier than thou attitude. Did you like that?

      I think it's very sad what happened to this lady. But she says she got out when she was ready. It doesn't sound like anyone held her against her will.

      June 25, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Reply
  21. amanda

    everyone should read that article about melissa petro in marie claire. she is a very smart and articulate woman and i am sure you will find it educational.

    i applaud her courage and intellect.

    June 25, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Reply
    • nick

      I read it. Fine, what does that prove about cases like the one discussed in this article? It is a pretty simple principle. Not every prostitute is a victim of forced prostitution. But too many of them are. And they need both our help, and your understanding.

      June 25, 2011 at 5:32 pm | Reply
  22. Jennifer

    CNN certainly loves the word "victim." Call this woman a survivor. That's what she is.

    June 25, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Reply
  23. doh

    Yeah, she's a homely, middle class soccer mom, doesn't like her husband.

    June 25, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Reply
  24. Detta

    Too many people equate "didn't say no" to consent. You know what consent is, when it comes to physical intimacy? It is an emphatic, unhesitant "yes".

    Silence does not equal consent if you are afraid. One person being beaten as an example is all it would have to take to make others fall in line.

    It is entirely possible to be too filled with shame and self-loathing to admit that you were a victim. It is incredibly easy to be made to believe it was deserved:

    1. Wore the wrong outfit
    2. Didn't say no
    3. Did say no but didn't continue to say no as the rape occurred
    4. Accepted payment afterwards (it must not have been that bad, if you can accept the money).

    All of these are victim-blaming tactics. I don't think amanda is a bitter woman. I think she is actually a man, defending with the last shreds of desperation, the idea that this type of lifestyle is entirely acceptable and that most women are "asking for it."

    Would legalizing make prostitution better? Probably, if it was coupled with an outreach program to help those who are truly victimized. But that would work if and ONLY if the stigma of a sex worker vanished as soon as that law was passed. (Try asking homosexuals how that's working out for them, even with the strides in gay marriage rights and other equal opportunities).

    This isn't a problem that can be solved in a day. Emotionally-damaged women, girls, (and boys) need understanding and training.

    It's not lazy to choose making money and not being beaten over trying to get a job with no education and limited resources. Exactly when are you supposed to fill out that job application in between turning tricks?

    This was a smart person who fell into a terrible business, who still has enough pride to not want us to think of her as one of those "dirty" hookers on the street. Sad all around, but painting with a wide brush in either direction doesn't help.

    The only think that helps is thoughtful discourse, action, and change. Things that humans just aren't that good at, in the short term.

    June 25, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Reply
  25. missalex

    It seems people like Amanda have never heard that people can be psychologically trapped by someone. Minors are so easily influenced... That is how the pimps keep control over these young girls. The pimps know exactly what to do to make the girls do anything, whether it be to lie to her parents or have sex with any man off the street! These young women ARE slaves.

    June 26, 2011 at 12:04 am | Reply
  26. missalex

    Amanda. The Stockholm Syndrome. Look it up.

    June 26, 2011 at 12:11 am | Reply
  27. Lew

    I have never written to a blog before but, I think Detta is probably spot on about Amanda, who is most likely a man da, Obviously he has a pretty analytical mind but it makes sense that he would be rationalizing, something he has done to say " i don't believe there was coercion. It would absolve him of any wrong doing that involved him and prostitutes..

    He then almost implies that he is the teacher or the researcher in the (Melissa Petro ) article. Amanda is an incendiary who has provided me with a great deal of entertainment. I fully expect him (if he reads this) to berate me that's okay. I welcome it.

    Hopefully I have given you enough information to do a character assessment on me but first I would like to point out that when "I" is used to refer to oneself as speaker or writer it is capitalized. I realize that when someone is writing this stuff spelling can be sacrificed but this is a mistake that you made a few times. So if you are going to denigrate someone at least look intelligent doing it.

    June 26, 2011 at 4:15 am | Reply
    • you

      maybe you should stick to not writing to blogs. so is this amanda a man or the WOMAN teacher, genius? did you get that a-man-da joke from the fourth grade? it's kind of juvenile, don't you think?

      and if you're going to berate people over their grammar, start with yourself. i noticed she doesn't capitalize anything, much like i do. maybe she was in computer programming like i was and just doesn't want to bother with that pesky shift key. but you?

      you've got run-on sentences. that first whole paragraph is basically a run-on sentence. then you capitalize after a comma, fail to close quotations and i can't tell if you were meaning to place an ellipsis or you just screwed up with double periods. and it's not wrong doings. it's wrongdoings. and you don't hopefully give enough information unless you were hopeful about something, like maybe hopeful that you sound intelligent and not ignorant, while you were giving her the information. i'm going to be a pal and let you know that it's "i hope i have given you enough information." and it's not character assessment on you. it's character assessment of you.

      i just hate it when ignorant people get on the internet and think their grammar is all that when it's obvious they don't know their strunk and white from their ass.

      June 26, 2011 at 9:29 pm | Reply
      • Fly Guy in SJ

        @you – I believe Detta and Lew are correct. "Amanda" is almost certainly male, not female. As for the "A man, duh" joke, I actually found that rather funny, although I willingly admit to being known for a juvenile sense of humor. Funniest movie I've ever seen? Hands-down, it's Porky's. I was a teenager when it was in theaters, but still find it funny over 30 years later.

        I think the assessment that Amanda is a male who enjoys going to prostitutes is spot-on. It's not inconceivable that Amanda is a female who enjoys going to (female) prostitutes, but I believe those are relatively thin on the ground, so I'm sticking with the "Amanda is a guy" theory.

        Programmers not bothering with the shift key? I don't know what kind of programming you're doing, but many languages, including the ones I usually work in, are case-sensitive. I'd be up the creek without a shift key.

        June 27, 2011 at 6:25 am |
  28. me

    Amanda you are a very disturbed lady. First it is well documented that more than maybe 60% of rapes are not reported by victims of all ages. I also think everyone has you wrong. I believe you just need to believe you are not the only effed up individual on earth. And you not you have alot of sex preditors, murderers, and satist along side of you.
    Now, when I was 17 I was raped, I'm not going into details of my ordeal. But I chose not to tell anyone or press charges because I just wanted it over with. I didn't want to relive it by trying to defend myself to others like you. Who don't know how to put the blame where it should be.
    I am not like those who would wish you or anyone you know to go through it. But, when it happens to a young women over and over again for a couple of days much less a couple of months she gets programmed. And where is 16 an age of consent for sexual conduct with an adault?
    I do agree if prostitution was legal it would be easier for people like you to feel even higher on your horse.

    June 26, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Reply
    • you

      Are you saying the more times a girl gets raped, the more used to it she gets? That's pretty stupid.

      Are you one of these girls who went on a date, a party and found themselves in a compromising position where they didn't, couldn't, wouldn't forcefully say no? Then I could see why you would want to just get it over with because it's very hard to prove he said she said kinds of things.

      But that doesn't put you in the same category as girls who are traumatically raped or forced into sex slavery.

      And just google age of consent and you'll see that the age of consent is 16 in the majority of the states across the country.

      June 26, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Reply
  29. Chuck

    Amanda is right. Unfortunately, prostitution has been around since the beginning of time. Sexual slavery has also. If you have ever really lived life on the bottom, you would know that the two can can cross, but usually prostitutes in the modern era do NOT have pimps, and are just hookups for money to pay for items for the baby, etc. Then there are those that like the lifestyle of getting paid a few hundred an hour in cash and working weekends, then there are the hardcore street hookers and meth heads, some with pimps and many without. It's not moral according to Judeo-Christian society, but a lot of single women have put themselves and their babies through college and fed their disabled mothers and siblings... by selling the most precious thing they have their bodies. I am not saying this is a good thing. Just that to demonize these women, who are working as are you and I does nothing but allow our twisted society to allow them to be brutalized and killed, or arrested and imprisoned by hypocritical, MALE, moralizers, when these women are really the true victims here.

    June 26, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Reply
  30. RapeSurvivor

    All of you guys saying she was raped should be ashamed of yourself. I was raped by a stranger when I was 13. I was riding my bike around in my rural town and this animal just jumped out, grabbed me and dragged me into a bush. You can't know the terrifying fear for your life when something like this happens. I was so traumatized, I couldn't stop crying for weeks. I couldn't eat, I couldn't go to school. I couldn't even sleep in my own room at night by myself. I felt excruciating anxiety at the thought of being alone. I was dead for months and months and months.

    If I had not told my parents, they would have committed me to a mental hospital. There was no option of just wanting to get it over with. There was no option of keeping it a secret because it would crush my parents. I would have died. And I would have died if I had to even think about voluntarily or involuntarily submitting myself to another person sexually violating me again.

    If a girl finds herself in a date rape situation where the consent isn't clear, there might be these ambiguous and ambivalent situations where the person can continue to function normally and her world does not come to a complete grinding halt. But if you are truly raped, truly sexually violated, these things cannot happen.

    June 26, 2011 at 8:09 pm | Reply
  31. Jessica

    In some cases I believe force and coercion are used. Minors should not be involved. However if a woman is of legal age and wants to be a prostitute that is her choice. It is legal to be a slut so why not a prostitute? I also believe a lot of these women that have a pimp will rather than be arrested and their family notified use a "get out of jail free card" by just lying and saying she was beaten, raped and forced by her pimp to be a whore and she is really a nice girl and a "victim".

    The government wants to say that all escort services, pimps, madams and brothels are trafficking and using force whether it is true or not. The police, judges and juries usually hate all pimps even if he doesn't force or beat his girls so if a girl lies the police, judge and jury will usually believe the girl almost all the time. Most people feel if a guy accepts money from any woman he is a POS and they feel if he accepts money from a prostitute he is a pimp scum and he should get life in prison. It is ridiculous how people think and how stupid they are.

    This woman is a rescue counselor and they need "victims" to rescue. It is a business and the more victims the better for their program. If there is a shortage of victims they will create them by having the police force and coerce women to lie and say they were victimized by some pimp or escort service.

    Why is prostitution so bad? It really isn't that bad because it has no more victims than gambling or liquor. But gambling and liquor are legal when the government gets their cut or runs it. If you open a poker room up illegally they will charge you in some cases with racketeering and try to give you 20 years in some cases. They are not happy fining people and giving probation anymore for gambling or prostitution so they invent new charges like trafficking and racketeering.

    Why is prostitution OK in Nevada in brothels and a terrible thing everywhere else. Because the government can't stand to see anyone make quick, fast money illegally and defy the system. They hate it so much they are willing to use propaganda to brainwash the public that it is OK to give 20 years or a life sentence to a person for running a gambling house and/or brothel.

    June 26, 2011 at 10:07 pm | Reply
    • clopez

      Hey, man, you are a smart chick. Did you study economics? Seriously, that was a good point about the rescue counselors running a business and needing victims.

      But watch out, idiots will say you are a pimp now that you've said not all prostitutes are coerced.

      Also, spot on about prostitutes and lying. I think the cops say never believe a word coming out of a hooker's mouth and they're probably right.

      Seriously, this is the smartest thing I've read on the net in a long time.

      June 26, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Reply
  32. Marci

    I'm astonished by some of the comments here. Yes, there is voluntary prostitution and there is forced trafficking that occurs at all ages. Please get informed on this very tragic subject. To say this is modern day slavery is quite accurate and at times may be even worse than many forms of slavery. Men or women (but mostly men) who pay for the services of a child are first of all pedophiles and secondly, they are helping to sustain an industry wrought with abuse and suffering. Please be a bit kinder to the human population or shut the f... up...

    June 27, 2011 at 12:35 am | Reply
  33. Tabitha

    While i found the story a little sad and i understand that people, especially powerful men, have the ability to make weak women do as they please I am more disgusted by the comment section.

    "Amanda" Is obviously a troll and a pretty fat troll at that considering how much everyone is feeding "her".

    June 27, 2011 at 9:07 am | Reply
  34. david

    If ISRAEL is not on the list of nations with the need to improve incompetent laws on Human Trafficking, THIS LIST IS TRULY FRAUDULENT and in fact may be in place to steer attention away from the dominating worldwide force that reinforces it. But, like the cliche goes it is NOT the obvious person who really gets away with crime, but only the one noone can suspect! This is list is therefore worthless so dont believe it too much.

    June 27, 2011 at 10:46 pm | Reply
  35. John Q

    Damn people on the internet are stupid. Not slavery? I am ashamed to call myself an American when I hear spoiled little brats from the USA talking out of their _sses like this. I sincerely hope that you never have to find out first hand what theses poor individuals went through. My god, how could anyones reaction to this piece be to criticize the use of the word slavery. Again, you people make me comlpetely sick to my stomach. If they made her work in a field she would be a slave, but not if they make her work in a bed? You people are crazy. Sell your computers and cancel your internet service and do the world a favor jack_sses.

    June 30, 2011 at 3:59 am | Reply
    • Public

      John Q,
      Other than the profanity, I agree 100%. May God have mercy on us, but judging from what I have read on this post and generally on any news article where commenting is allowed, it isn't likely to happen. Our glory days are behind us and the only thing we show leadership in is corruption and immorality.

      July 31, 2011 at 1:36 am | Reply
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    Enough said.

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