'I was enslaved for 40 days'
A new California state law requires manufacturers and retailers in the state to disclose their efforts at making sure their supply chains are free of slavery. It goes into effect in 2012. (Watch Barbara Starr's report)
As part of the process of getting the law passed, one modern-day slavery victim, Flor Molina, testified before California's legislature last year about her experience of being enslaved. Here is her story in her own words from the edited testimony:
In the winter of 2001, I became a victim of slavery in the garment industry in Los Angeles. I was an easy target for my trafficker: I was a desperate mother who had just lost my baby because I didn't have the money to take her to the hospital when she got sick.
After my baby died, I got so depressed and worried that what happened to my baby could happen to my other three children. I was taking sewing classes in hopes of starting my own business and earn enough money to take care of my children.
My sewing teacher was approached by a trafficker because she knew a lot of women who knew how to sew and would be desperate to come to the United States to make money. There were no opportunities in my town, so when my sewing teacher told me about the opportunity to go to the U.S., I was definitely interested.
I had to leave my mom and my children behind. I was told that when I got to the U.S. I will have a job so I could send money home, food and a place to stay. When I arrived in Los Angeles, I quickly realized it had all been a lie.
My trafficker told me that now I owe her almost $3,000 for bringing me to the U.S. and that I had to work for her in order to pay her back.
I was forced to work 18 hours a day making dresses that were being sold for $200 department stores. When all the workers in the factory got to go home, I had to clean the factory. I was forced to sleep at the factory in a storage room and I had to share a single mattress with another victim. The other workers in the factory were able to come and go at the end of their shift. I was forbidden to talk to anyone or from putting one step outside of the factory. I worked hard and I was always hungry. I was given only one meal a day and I had 10 minutes to eat.
If I took longer, I was punished. After only a few weeks of being there, one of my co-workers started suspecting that something was not right. She had realized that I was always there in the morning when she got there and was working at night after everybody left. She gave me her phone number on a piece of paper, and told me that if I needed help, I could call her.
I was so afraid, I didn't really trust anybody. My trafficker told me that if I ever go to the police, they wouldn't believe me. She said that she knew where my children and my mother lived and that I wouldn't want them to pay the consequences. This went on for 40 days, but I tell you it felt like 40 years. I thought I was going to die. I thought I would never see my children again. I was sick with worry about how my children were in Mexico and how they didn't know what happened to me.
After weeks of begging my trafficker to let me go to church, she finally let me go. The moment I set foot outside the factory, I decided not to go back.
I went to a pay phone to call my co-worker but I didn't know how the pay phone worked. After awhile, someone walked by and I asked him if he spoke Spanish, and he did. Helped me dial the phone number and my co-worker came and picked me up and took me to a restaurant.
I was found by FBI agents who were already investigating my trafficker. They connect me with CAST (a non-profit group). CAST found me shelter and helped me with all my basic necessities because I had nothing when I escaped. Ultimately, my trafficker was charged with labor abuse and got a light sentence - only 6 months of house arrest.
Since regaining my freedom I have had many challenges. Although I was enslaved 9 years ago, my trafficker is still after me and my family.
I was enslaved for 40 days but it felt like 40 years. Even though my enslavement doesn't define me as a person, it makes me who I am today. I am an advocate against slavery, I am a survivor of a crime so monstrous that the only way to move forward is by fighting back. I am not the only one. There are other survivors that are fighting back with me. We are part of a group called the survivors caucus at CAST and we are working to educate people, law enforcement and communities using our stories. The caucus is a network of survivors where we feel safe and supported and we have advocacy to end slavery for good. Even though we were once victims we are now able to impact social change.
So today I am here with you to congratulate you to join our fight to end slavery. We need to find a way to get to the root of the problem - the demand for all products tainted with slave labor. The companies who brought these garments could have stopped me and others from being slaves, if they had made an effort.
... If those big companies can show consumers they are doing things to make sure the company is not using slave labor in the making of their products, these companies can be the key to freedom for hundreds of thousands of enslaved people. I know that from my experience even one person can make a difference. If companies post what they do to stop slavery, people will understand that they can buy from these companies and that will help stop the demand for these products.
All of us working together can end slavery forever. Let's make it happen.
In my town of Kansas City, which the local newspaper has dubbed a "trafficking hub", there have been two case of trafficking in federal court in 10 years.
One was a massage parlor operator who was convicted of bring a Chinese woman from California into the State for prostitution. Notice I said woman....not a child. The woman was willful and profited from the enterprise. The operator was held without bond for 2.5 years awaiting trial. She got 8 years in federal prison and federal prosecutor acknowledged that force and restraint were NOT elements of the case.
The other case was a Uzbekistan man who "trafficked hundreds of people into the area” for cheap labor in roofing, hotel service, laundry service, etc. They forced them to live in squalor and paid less than minimum wage. His profits were estimated at twice the profit of the massage parlor. He got 2 months time already served for victimizing hundreds of people.
The moral of the story, the trafficking program is not about victims. That is why this woman's trafficker got a light sentence. The trafficking program is about controlling sex and prostitution. It is a moral crusade in disguise and the court just proved it.
I was so disgusted at the disparity in these cases that I wrote an opinion letter for the newspaper, something I have don’t many times in the last 5 years with good success in getting publication, but they would not publish this letter because it conflicted with their political agenda.
Ken, did the prostitute get in any trouble at all? You say that she was Chinese, brought from California. That's because California is the recipient of illegal immigrants sneaking into the US from China. So she was a) an illegal immigrant, b) a prostitute (an illegal profession), and c) no taxes were being paid on her willful earnings. If an American citizen did committed either of the second 2 crimes above, they would have to pay some consequence. Isn't that a double standard of sorts? Hmmm, come from another country, break multiple laws, pay no penalty. Sounds like a recipie for social and economic disaster to me.
Bet all you people who blame the victim pride yourselves on being good Christians, don't you? Why don't you try having some compassion? The same people who think America's God's own country are always so willing to attack others who want to come here because they too think it's better than where they are. Very Christ-like to blame the victim who only wanted to be free and safe.
BTW, it really is about time all these people who are so righteous about who's "legal" and who's not face the fact that ANY illegal alien has already done more than you ever did to earn American citizenship. All you did was get born in the right place. You weren't righteous, you were just plain lucky. Why not admit that, and admit that you never hung on the side of a train, or crossed a river or hid in a container to get here. They put life-changing effort in to getting what you got for FREE. Be a person and show some humility and some graciousness for once in your sheltered, easy life.
If she was held against her will, not allowed to leave (or threatened with violence if she did), and had to pass her "profits" on to a pimp or "madam", she is a victim. Why punish her? I was confused as to whom the original article referred as "she"....the trafficker or the prostitute. It makes a definite difference. One is the predator, the other is the prey.
what makes you think that christians blame the victims?? n what does religion have to do with this kate?
@Kate
Did you even read Tim's post. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Get off your moral high horse and take a long look in the mirror at your own bigotry
Why should prostitution be illegal? What's immoral about it?
Do not say it's immoral because it's illegal. That begs the question.
If you say it should be illegal because it's immoral, then I challenge you to explain why there should not be laws mandating church attendance.
Hey Kate, why don't these people change there own country and straighten it out rather than come here and destroy ours?? here's why, because you high horse no whats good for everybody liberals want to GIVE them everything we americans that yes were born here have to WORK for. You liberals made it so damn tempting to come here...thanks Kate...why don't you invite them to stay at your house and YOU pay for them. People like you make me want to puke.
Why is prostitution wrong??? really??? prostitution is wrong because so many women are forced into it...ie RAPE! the men often have no idea that they're purchasing sex from someone who is unwilling. you can't have legalized prostitution or you will have an amsterdam issue...women willing to sell mixed in with sex slaves. the country with the lowest rate of prostitution did something very different from others: they prosecute the john. stop the demand and the supply withers away.
These ILLEGAL ALIENS get no sympathy from me! Maybe if they stayed in their OWN country instead of fleeing like the cowards they are, they wouldn't end up in such situations?
Frankly, I am sick and tired of these liberal media sob stories on ILLEGAL ALIENS – who are CRIMINALS simply by their presence!
Round em up and ship em out!
GO HOME!
Tim, most likely she was forced into prostitution, and when someone if forced into commiting a crime against their will, they will recieve no punishment.
Danielle, you are answering a question with a round about point that doesn't relate other than one involves the other. With your logic, computer classes should be against the law because that is how most hackers get started. Slavery should be against the law only if the slaves are being mistreated and forced to do what they want to do (the Bible actually condones slavery but it said that masters are to treat their slaves as they would like to be treated, and the slaves need to be mindful of their masters; since that isn't being upheld, then it should go away). But prostitution in it of itself has nothing wrong with it, as long as the prostitute is willing and taken well care of, see the Bunny Ranch for details on how this works. They are treated like regular people, have great plans and coverage, the clients have checks done on them to ensure the safety of the prostitutes. So forcing someone into slavery is bad yes, but there are many things that have a problem with some form of slavery and endangerment, like the story above. I may be for and against many things, but I hold true to the Bible and it also says that as long as the laws of man do not contredict the laws of God, then we must adhere to them. Meaning to break the law is immoral, but the act that the law stands against may not be; less the law is against God. I can find different religious texts in different religions if you want or need. Or if you are athiest, I can refernce many things that we do today that was once against the law because of morality. If something is truely wrong, then it has always been and always will be wrong; and somethings are only wrong because it is done the wrong way.
@Minuteman4US
"These ILLEGAL ALIENS get no sympathy from me! Maybe if they stayed in their OWN country instead of fleeing like the cowards they are, they wouldn't end up in such situations?". Do you mean you don't have any sympathy for our European ancestors who should've stayed in their own country instead of fleeing like the cowards they were?
Do you really think that woman tearing apart the American fabric by being a prostitute came here with the intention of being one? I practically puked when I read your attempt to blame the victim with that tired, hackneyed old implication that being an illegal immigrant and engaging in work that the woman's been coerced by bad people or by horrid circumstances to do, the person somehow is getting their comeuppance.
That's why I prefer to work for my own country. I dont believe to go out country lookinf for prosperity, we are living in another time. And we chileans are going to make our country the best one in the region. If one goes outcountry looking for better wages has to know there are problems and injustices on the way. Besides we are going up while others are going down.
Oh I just love the ridiculous, childish argument that people in third world countries need to just fix their own country before coming here. Yeah, let's ask the young, decent people of Mexico to just walk into their local drug cartel hangout and ask all the nice men with machine guns to just stop making unbelieveable amounts of money kidnapping, murdering, and raping. Let's just ask them to ask their government nicely to stop being corrupt. Stupid. Oh and you Conservatives think the solution should be those people improving the lives of the poor and middle class in their countries, all while you cheer on the demise of ours here at home. You support every big business-loving Republican who lies and says the money isn't there to keep wage and labor laws, protect collective bargaining, and lower taxes for those who need it most. Nope, you support tax hikes and budget cuts for public programs like schools and fire departments so the money can be shuffled into wasteful projects that shovel money into corporations and give huge breaks to corporations. Scott Walker thinks teachers are getting too much and there's just not enough money, yet the son of one of his campaign funders, who has 2 dui convictions and no college degree gets a cushy $85,000 a year govt job. Nice.
@Kate
The ‘victim’ is as much to blame as the traffickers. They chose to come here illegally. Take some responsibility for your own actions and stop crying victim. Something many of our own citizens should consider also.
@Just a Guy
1) Comparing the illegal immigration issues of 1982-2011 to that of immigration for previous 400 years? A few things have changed.
2) The vast majority of the ILLEGAL alien problem is just that.. they are here illegally. Hence not being able to ask for help lest they be sent back home.
3) Mexicans are the largest violator of immigration laws in the US. Mexico has been around about as long as the US. Settled by *gasp* Europeans. So no… I have no sympathy.
If you leave your country because it’s a terrible place to live. LEAVE IT THERE. A good portion of hostility both legal immigrants and illegal aliens face is a refusal to assimilate. (Not everyone does this of course)
I come to my opinion largely from discussions with my fiancé. She is a LEGAL immigrant from Colombia. She came here the correct way. She filled out her paper work, paid her fees and waited her turn. She now speaks English. And last year enrolled in a nursing program. SHE believes the same way I do. Respect the country you want to be a part of come here legally. Learn the language and assimilate.
Futhermore, you endlessly support the businesses who recruit illegal immigrants to work for their companies, who then exploit them by overworking them in horrible conditions for less than a livable wage. Then they personally summon INS to round up all those who are due for raises so the next batch can be ushered in, all the while the INS doesn't touch the companies who illegally hire the immigrants, because all government agencies are the puppets of the big businesses and their lobbyists.. Boy, you tough guy Conservatives really don't know how the world works, or you do and you're just a bunch of tools.
WoW .. Kate! What does this have to do with "Christians". I guess you had to throw that one out there to make your point valid and for good measure. 2ndly, yes, I was born LEGALLY in the US. And here's another amazing factoid! I am married to a LEGAL IMMIGRANT!!! What's more, I know 1st hand all the forms, fees and legal hoops we had to jump in order for her to be here. (She's from the Philippines) So, don't tell me what you THINK you know.. and don't be bitter because these poor illegals have problems. What's more, you are enjoying the same benefits as those born here as well.. so, I guess that makes you a hypocrite. They broke the laws, pretty simple. How's that fair to those who can't come here at all, legally or illegally?
@Kate: You are a perfect example of religious self-righteousness. Does your religion also force you to assume that people a) are Christian, and b) should be bludgeoned by your judgment?
I'd also like to add.. calling an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT and UNDOCUMENTED WORKER is like calling a DRUG DEALER an UNLICENSED PHARMACIST.
THey do pay tax and she wasnt a prostitute youare supper fkn ingorant and have no compation for others !!go kill your self boy!
For Kate:
I have done much to 'earn' my right to be an American. I have been a tax payer since I was 15 (when I started working.). As soon as I was old enough to vote, I have – every election since and I'm now 40. Also, I joined the Navy after high school to serve my country – which is a family tradition. Recently, I have hosted exchange students so they can see and understand this country that I love so much. You have some nerve to assume American's take for granted what we have been giving for 'free'. Other American's have done just as much, if not more, than me to 'earn' our rights but more of us are getting sick and tired of being told that illegals deserve to be here. I thank God everyday I was born here and believe that if other's want to enjoy this country, they should do it the right way. There is a right way but this seems to get lost in the minds of people like you who think people like me are wrong.
@ Kate – All of that life-changing effort wouldn't be necessary if they would just abide by the rules of this country and apply for permanent-living status like the "legal" immigrants do. Or would that just be too easy?
Who brought her into your country with false promises "Really"? An American citizen who also did not abide by the laws. Legal American citizens aren't all they are cut out to be either- get rid of scum like those and serial killers and bring in some hard working people who want to contribute to your country and be proud to be Americans.
no human being is "illegal"
the first "anchor baby" was born at Jamestown Colony
no doubt the "christian americans" who are so hot to crucify so called "illegal aliens" will be shocked to find the tables turned in the afterlife (if such there be). it would be the most delicious karma of them all to have to sneak in to heaven and fear deportation
lol
Wherever she was working, China would make it for 1/5 the price.
Could you tell me why?
You are wrong, the moral of the story is that this woman got exploited which is exactly what she deserved. She knowingly came into the US illeagally, to avoid this all she had to do was respect the law and stay in her country. I have no sympathy for someone who was taken advantage of while trying to take advantage of others. If anything people who exploit illegals should be celebrated, if we make it tough enough to exist as an illegal in the US perhaps they will stop coming!
You are sick
Steve,
You're not very smart. Your ancestors who immigrated here illegally would not be very enlightened by your commentary. How about you go back to the sixth grade and take Social Studies all over again.
and offcourse ur a sick person. u put an american woman in the same situation and she will be very much willing to do the same and to sell her self.. you haven't seen hunger..coz ur govt pays ur food stamp from my tax money!! sick!
Republican! Wow, Who ARE you people? Is hatred and anger all you know?
Do you have any idea that your opinion sounds just like the opinion of a demon?
well said. i didnt see a way to reply to kate so i had to do it way below. hopefully this senseless illegal will see it. why do they have to tread on our turf? This is our land. I wish we could detect all illegals and terrorists and deport them or arrest them as soon as they set foot on American soil.
What a hypocrite society and hypocrite comments!
You're right. If they don't want to be exploited, then they should stay on their side of the fence.
We are al slaves – our economic system is designed to make profit on somONE or something – THIS IS A SATANIC economic systen that abuse people, rape Earth, harm life...
Therefore – only A GIFT ECONOMY can save us – FREE WATER, FREE LAND, FREE SPACE, FREE MINERALS, FREE GOLD.. to all 6 billion people in the name of birthrights BECAUSE WORKING FOR free IS MOTIVAITNG¨
google/youtube: GIFT ECONOMY
Where is the humanity in not being able to have feelings for a mother whose child has died and she fears for her other children. Borders are man-made. Heaven loves all people, white or black, American or Mexican. you name them, Jesus died for them. To speak of the purchased price of Jesus this way must bring great sadness to him. I am glad that God did not say, " I have no sympathy for humanity who was taken advantage of by the Devil." The Bible says that we have all sinned and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). I agree with Jesus, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her (John 8:7)
I guess you didn't read the part about how the trafficker went to her "side of the fence," as you so put it.
ipploit...you're clueless, when people are brought to the U.S. under the guise of "work" they are told that they will get a "job" and have a work visa. Once they are here, if they have any identifying documents, those are usually confiscated by the "employer." It means that the person is being held against their will, forced to be here illegally and have zero documentation that can prove their identity or story. It also means that they can't travel because the employer also takes their passport so they're trapped until they find a way out, someone to help them or the place gets busted by the cops...nobody deserves what this woman went through.
The United States took what they call "California" from Mexico(out of its selfish, imperialistic nature). The Mexicans deserve this land. The United States exploit the world.
oh my god you are just an idiot and racist..
You Moron...I wish you could be exploited like that you inhuman bastard!
That's a pretty horrible thing to say. The problem is socialism. People who come here to work don't harm our economy. They make it more efficient. The problem is there are some people who come to mooch off of our socialist government-paid schools, health insurance, food stamps etc... If we ended socialism in America we wouldn't have an illegal immigration problem. The only people who would come here are people willing to work hard. I can't see how that would harm our country, beyond forcing our worthless unionized workers to compete with real labor for the first time since they cartelized labor in the 1930s.
You moron, they are forced to come here because of you and your government. Becuase you want diamonds, big cars and expensive clothes that people in other countries suffer. You were never hungry. No one comes to your crappy red neck country because they want to lay on the beach, they come because their country was distroyed by war or social and political coruption due to neo-liberalism. Who are you to decide who should come, you killed the whole CIVILIZATION TO HAVE YOUR BORDERS AND NOW YOU WANT TO KEEP OTHERS OUT
man you are hateful. You are no better that this enslavers
Alex is the only voice of reason and compassion on this thread. Out of many shines one light for Christ.
Your family should have never came either because as you know, NOBODY belongs in AMERICA! We are all immigrants and your ignorance is down right shameful! These people come to do the jobs that people in AMERICA wont do, so they chose to be on welfare. Ignorant!
For JESS so are you talking about giving it back to indigenous inhabitants of what is now known as Mexico, meaning the Aztecs or to the indigenous inhabitants of Califorina, the native Americans: Chumash, Maidu, Miwok, Modoc, Mohave, Ohlone, Pomo, Serrano, Shasta, Tataviam, Tongva and Wintu. I don't think that is feasible... But I bet you want California to be returned to the Spanish, correct? who illegally invaded what is now known as Mexico and California, over populated the country, spread across the land like a virus while committing rape, murder and mass Genocide and enslaving the rightful inhabitants of the land just for gold and cheap labor. sound familiar? ya right you deserve the land to be returned to you, I think NOT GO POUND SAND!!!! know your history before you spout off
@ipploit i'm going to hazard a guess here and say that you are a religious person who attends church on a regular basis (doesn't matter which church). I'm also going to guess that you really haven't read the bible, or listen to what the preacher is preaching, but I do know from when I used to go as a child that both the bible and the preachers try to teach love and tolerance for all people, but you must have missed that part.
@NODAT1
Well said
While her enslaver is sick I think to put all the blame on that person is not right. This lady broke the law as well coming here illegally. SHE decided to leave her family, SHE decided to come here illegally in search of a better life. She could have walked out and went to the authorities but she didn't she decided to stay and work. Neither of them is right.
wow!! bitter much?
A million dollar says you think you are a christian......................Jesus would be ashamed of all the scum that call themselves his followers
to ipploit- using your logic then we should celebrate the most vicious drug dealers because if they make it bad enough to be an addict then no one will get addicted. Or we should celebrate the most brutal loan sharks because if they make it bad enough to be deeply indebted then no one will borrow too much.
Do we know she knew she was coming here illegally? Or did the trafficker tell her all of the necessary paperwork would be taken care of?
@beth "Our turf" you sound like an idiot. You do realize that half of our country used to Mexico and that we took it right....and Native Americans were technically here first. I see all these comments about how they should fix there own country and stop destroying ours....Easier said than done..what have they destroyed in our country that wasn't already messed up....if you worked as hard as some of these people who come here legally or illegally then you could have a job too, unless your complaining about not having jobs when your a stay at home parent, with that nice welfare flowing in....stop breathing our air please your wasting the Oxygen.
wait til you die and get to heaven and find out that you don't have a visa
lol
wait til you get a taste of your own hatred
remember what your "good book" says about "the least among you" – those "least" include so called "illegals"
just hope that when you die the heavenly border patrol isn't as stringent as you'd like the one on earth to be, or you probably won't even make it past the 15 foot tall electrified fence
lol
IT'S FUNNY YOU ALL CARE ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BEING EXPLOITED AND WORKING FOR NEXT TO NOTHING TO PRODUCE $200 DRESSES BUT WHEN THE 'HONORABLE' ROBERT GATES PUT OUT A MEMO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SAYING US SOLDIERS WILL WILL NOT BE PAID AND HAVE TO TAKE OVER FURLOUGHED POSITIONS IF THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN, I DIDN'T SEE TOO MANY PEOPLE CARING ABOUT THAT SITUATION, THE FACT WE WOULD HAVE US SOLDIERS IN A HANDFUL OF WARZONES WORKING FOR FREE, THEN 2 DAYS LATER BOMB LIBYA WITH OVER $120 MILLION DOLLARS IN MISSILES, NOT INCLUDING ALL THE OTHER MONEY IT SPENT, AND 2 DAYS PRIOR TO THAT THEY WERE BARELY ABLE TO CUT $6 BILLION DOLLARS
AMERICA IS FULL OF SICK INDIVIDUALS, PEOPLE WHO CARE MORE ABOUT FOREIGNERS THEN THEIR OWN PEOPLE, SKID ROW IS FULL OF TONS OF PEOPLE WHO FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS IN LOS ANGELES, AND YOU CARE ABOUT SOME IMMIGRANT WHO PROBABLY VOLUNTEERED TO COME TO AMERICA, OR CROSSED ILLEGALLY AND PICKED UP THE JOB HERE
GET OVER YOUR SELVES
GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSES
STOP CARRYING ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES
WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN
WONT BE HERE FOR MANY GENERATIONS TO COME
Tim, just because someone has a different opinion than you, doesn't mean you have to FREAK OUT!!!
Tim, the caps lock key is not your friend. If you want to be taken serious, turn it off and type like a normal person. Otherwise you come across as a five-year old having a tantrum because someone else got candy and you didn't.
I agree...
Is your caps-lock stuck or are you shouting?
Oh my god, are you all kidding me! We have one knucklehead throwing the Christian religion thing out. Another genius saying that this is the master plan of the Republicans to rebuild slavery. You are all idiots.
I lived in a foreign country for two and a half years. I followed their laws, got there legally and left there legally. I did not sneak in, hide like a cockroach, lie, steel, cheat the government out of tax dollars, or demand my cultural habits be enforced. You know, "When in Rome, do like the Romans do".
When you are breaking the law playing with law breakers, there are pretty much no rules that will help you. I’ll bet you all didn’t realize that most of these trafficking issues are from the originating countries that these “poor victims” came from. You really don’t think we all sit around and think “Hey, I got an idea. Let’s go get us some slaves.” This is the Russians, Mexicans, Columbians, Chinese, Africans, and many, many others with their organized crime taking advantage of OUR NATION.
It’s simple. You firm up all of your legal ID (Birth Certificate, Social Security Number, Valid State ID or Drivers License) however that happens, either born here or legally entered. You get educated and trained in a career or skill. You get a job, pay taxes, obey the law, and live in peace. Be polite and courteous to everyone around you at all times. I’m not saying you have to like them, it’s just part of not being an asshole. Everybody is different so most importantly KEEP IT TO YOURSELF! Let’s all make it easy for law enforcement to easily identify the criminals and even point them out when possible.
Now here’s the kicker. If you aren’t, can’t, and or won’t follow the simple plan above, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM and you are probably doing something illegal. Don’t cry to anyone. This is the path YOU HAVE CHOSEN! And when law enforcement does catch up with you, please don’t make some poor sad story. You’re caught and now it’s time to pay.
@Tim
That's because our soldiers are war criminals! Not only do they deserve not to get paid but they should all be shot!
Tim,
I think that you are right, minus the caps lock. So many people in this country are all for illegal immigrants, and do not realize that they take jobs away from American citizens. The whole slavery thing is wrong, but besides that. I used to live in Tucson and there were illegals coming into Tucson all the time for the health care and were getting it for free, and MY tax dollars was paying for it! I was barely making ends meet and knowing that I was paying for somebody's health care who was not even here legally just really bothered me. I understand that this country was founded on immigrants and know that very well, but if you are going to come over here and not even try to learn this country's language which is ENGLISH, expect everybody to bend over backwards to help you and then not care about anybody but you, and expect this country to pay for everything for you???? How is that right? Can somebody explain that?
What if America adopted the same immigration laws that Mexico has? What then? I dare any one of you to go to Mexico and do the same things that the illegals do here and see how far you get down there. You tell me how that goes! My point is that all the people that are saying that America needs to let these people in and just give them what they want should look at themselves and ask if they are willing to give these people what they want from their own pockets, and let them stay at their house and eat from their kitchens. If they are not willing to do that, then they need to stop shouting that the country needs to do it, cause they are shouting a double standard. I really wish that people would stop and think for a minute. We have alot of people in our own country that really need our help, why don't we help them FIRST before we help people that can't even bother to come here the right way.
Illegal immigrants are destroying America, Tim. They are flying their flags over are cities, which is treason and an act of war. I will be on the other blog about our soldiers not being paid in a minute but right now I am fighting this war on the home front.
I'm in the military too, but everything you just said is complete bat shit. You came into the service with an oath to protect this country, regardless the cost, even if that cost is you. Don't turn this around on illegals. If you have read the article correctly, you'd realize its principle focus is 'HUMAN SLAVERY'. Only someone as selfish as yourself immediatly turns around that problem and points at yourself and screams 'What about me?' What about you. Tough shit. Deal with it. We joined and made a promise.
ME PERSONALLY – I THINK THE TRAFFICKERS-COYOTES -MOB AFFILIATIONS AND STREET GANGS -AND SLAVERS -ABUSERS -AND PIMPS – SHOULD HAVE THE SAME JUDGEMENT AS -DRUG MANUFACTURERS AND SELLERS -IF THEY GET ARRESTED -TRIED AND "NOT PLEA BARGAINED BUT CONVICTED AS ONE OR A NETWORK OF GROUPS – THEY SHOULD ALL DUE TALL "TIME " AND THEY SHOULD LOSE EVERYTHING- INCLUDING CITIZENSHIP ESPECIALLY IF THE TRAFFIC AND EXPLOIT AMERICANS -RUNNAWAY KIDS -ETC . -THEY SHOULD BE IMPRISONED – HAVE EVERYTHING CONFISCATED /SIEZED AND AUCTIONED AND THEN PAY FINES WITH WHATS LEFT AND LOOSE ALL THERE RIGHTS AS CITIZENS AND GO TO JAIL TO BOOT . -–I ADVISE ALL AMERICANS TO WATCH "A MOVIE ON YOUTUBE.COM . IN 18 SEGMENTS CALLED HUMAN TRAFFICKING " IT DEALS WITH THE INTERNATIONAL SEX TRADES -HERE IN AMERICA – I THINK AMERICA NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND – – WHAT THIS DOES TO HUMAN BEINGS MENTALLY AND PHYISICALLY AMERICANS OR NOT – ITHINK IF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SEEN FIRST HAND WHAT THESE HANDLERS DO TO WHOM THEY ENSLAVE AND HOW THEY ABUSE – THEN THERE SHOULD BE NO MERCY SHOWN IN COURT . FOR THOSE WHO USE PEOPLE LIKE THIS – ESPECIALLY KIDS . -SO I HOPE THEY VOTE AND PASS NATIONAL LAWS – TO REFLECT AMERICA WILL NOT TOLLERATE SLAVERY NO MORE – EVER – AND ELIMINATE THE SCOURGE OF IT FROM OUR SHORES – FOREVER . AND MAKE IT EXTREMELY /IMPOSSIBLE FOR THESE BOTTOM FEEDERS -TO EVER WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS TRADE . LET THERE COSTS OF PARTICIPATION BE HI AS EVER IN COSTS AND LOSS BE EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFULL TO THESE – NO LONGER HUMAN ABUSERS -this is my opinion and i feel i will take this up as a hobby -seeking out abused victims and calling dhs and ice to hammer these monstres like they deserve legally – hopefully with longer sentencing -i have no love for these "things" called people -they have many faces – these traffickers-no pity nor mercy either – and lack honor . this is a free country – lets make it so again . nuff said .
Of course these lands are resourceful. These other countries are being held in the grip ofdemons themselves. Their only care is to gorge themselves with the earnings from these resources. As soon as anyone gets to hold any kind of powerful and influential position, his/her ideals go out the window. If not, he will be killed and devoured by the rest of the chacals in power. Is either play ball or die. What would you do?
Hey, am I supposed to believe ths woman wrote this speech ?
Boom! Nailed it!
Also, is she still here illegaly?
I'm sorry the woman placed herself in a position fo rthese bad things to happen to her. She is lucky she is alive at this point. She should not have come to this country and she shouldn't be here now.
When did our FBI get to a point where they watch crimes happen and people get abused in this manner to try to build a better case? It is one of the real problems in this country.
Unfortunately, as an American citizen who is a taxpayer, I encourage nobody to feel bad for this woman. Mexicans, stay in your own country. The USA cannot support you and quite frankly we do not want to support you, because you do not offer anything to our country. Enough is Enough. I hope your trafficker guts you if you don't pay him, because that is the only way any law enforcement officer will take any interest in helping. Mexicans, you need to stay in your own country and work on making it a better place to live. The USA doesn't want you or your gangs or your drugs.
Excuse me...."gut"????? You aren't the actual trafficker are you?
Did you even read to understand why this woman/mother decided to come to the U.S.? She'd lost a child due to an illness because she couldn't afford proper treatment in Mexico! Fearing for her other children, and wanting a better life for them, she took the offer and made the risk to come here and make sufficient money to send to her children! It was a decision of sacrifice, most likely due to destitution (which is the norm in Mexico-it's have or have not) and that's why she came here! If you were a parent in a destitute situation, would you not do the same??? Many undocumented immigrants who come here work, and they work HARD, in jobs Americans would demand lots of pay for, yet these people do back-breaking work and help our nation's ecomony!! They're not sitting at home on their arses waiting for a check to come in the mail like many Americans are currently doing, even though many are able-bodied workers! An injustice has happened to this woman, and I hope she receives vindication!
I hope somebody guts you for being so ignorant!
Wow.. such ignorance. How do you think we got here to this continent? I'm sure the Native Americans thought the exact same thing that you are saying now. "Stay in your own country?" WE are a nation of immigrants, aren't we? Funny how quickly people forget (maybe you never knew), when things get tough. Your comment is filled with racism and ignorance under the guise of a statement about immigration issues.
@Melissa:
That's exactly the problem! She "couldn't afford treatment" in Mexico because they don't give healthcare away for free. So she decided to come to a country where, even if you're living here illegally, the hospitals are still obligated to treat you and you can get free government money. Of course that's preferable to the government of a failed state such as Mexico, but again, that's the problem. If everyone's solution is to leave the country rather than fixing their own country, where does that leave us? Maybe we should just annex Mexico and seize all their assets.
For Jason:
We are a nation of immigrants – legal immigrants. Immigrants who were proud to be here and joined the melting pot. Illegals don't want to become Americans, they want America to become them.
@Melissa, et al illegals
If you are so brave and have such beliefs, put your name address and immigration status or citizenship id no on here; I suspect though, just like illegal immigrant Osama Binladen, you are a coward. You are all talk and nothing else you spic.
same goes for illegal immigrant Barrack Obama.
@Jason
Um, you need to crawl back under you cozy rock.
"spic"?
why don't you put YOUR name and address here and i'll bring it to you, you fucking racist piece of shit
fuck you you fucking shit stain
you talk a bunch of shit about "spics" online but you probably don't have the balls to say shit to someone's face
if you are as bad ass as you seem to think you are, put your name and address here you fucking white piece of shit
WHAT IS LONG OVERDO IS AN INVASION OF MEXICO. WE NEED TO HELP MEXICANS WAKE UP, BUT THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY ASLEEP DOWN THERE. MEXICO'S RAPIDLY GROWING POPULATION PROBLEMS AND DRUG PROBLEMS ARE NOW BECOMING THE USA'S PROBLEMS. ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS SHOULD BE PUT INTO CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND DEPORTED WITHIN 24 HOURS. WE ARE FACING A POTENTIAL SHUT DOWN OF GOVERNMENT IN TWO DAYS. WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO BAIL OUT THEIR COUNTRIES, WHILE AMERICANS SUFFER THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, AND WE WON'T CONTINUE TO SUFFER. IF THIS US GOVERNMENT A NON-US CITIZEN PRESIDENT CANNOT RESOLVE THESE ISSUES PROMPTLY, AMERICAN MUST STEP UP AND REMOVAL ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS PER THE CONSTITUTION. IF THAT MEANS CIVIL WAR 2, SO BE IT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Concentration camps? Really? *rolling my eyes*
Just go ahead and paint swastikas all over thyself! Concentration camps NEVER solved anything...and NEVER will!
Hitler? is that you?
sieg heil
@mellisa and @mia,
if you are so righteous, put up you bith certificate that demonstrates you belong to the USA. THE USA cannot afford your problems. We don not care if your children starve. This is our contry and we can't even feed are own children. Stop being babies and fight for you beliefs in your own contry and stop tyring to illegaly enter our country. It is time we turn lose our lethal forces on Mexico as the seem to have this entitlement that what is the USA's is theirs. That is not true. We need to put the fear of GOD in these illegals that if you cross the border illegally, you will be at best killed, and at worsted maimed and sent home.
it's "overdue" you fucking inbred cretin
funny how the "english only" crowd can't even SPELL
go back to chalky-town with the other europeons you shitbag
you're a piece of shit racist cocksucker, you shitstain
i hope you get cancer of your testicles (you probably don't have any – you talk like a ball-less wonder) and they shrivel up and fall off so you can prance around like the little maricon you are, fuckwit
if europeons didn't want to live in aland with mexicans they shouldn't have stolen mexican lands, fuckface
no go suck a horse cock, you white piece of dog shit
For the one that mentioned reglion – remember who Mary M. was, and she was Jesus's favorite. Why was that?? I think you need to seriously reflect on what you are about to say BEFORE you speak for an entire group of people, because you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
I am going to send this around specially at http://www.makeamigos.com, because this is really bad. How can this happen in 2011. Lets all get together against people who think they can take advantage of people.
Really? Really? She would be a slave if she weren't engaging in an illegal activity. Keep your butts on YOUR side of the border and quit trying to rob us!
they keep the cost of my clothes down. can we get some slaves to work in the oil industry?
more like they keep the company profit margin high – the dress would still sell for $200
So is she still back in Mexico? There was never any mention as to who the fathers of her 4 kids were, or what happened to them. You consort with criminals, criminal things are asked or done to you.
Bottom line – THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS. They too need to be prosecuted. The reason they are victims is because they are engaging in illegal activities PERIOD!
Let them rot, they got here illegally they can deal with the decisions they made in that risk.
I agree where are the Ice agents ? WHO is inspecting these places, who is paying them to look the other way? It is all about agendas,and fake Morality. If we cared about human life we would be at war in Africa not Iraq.We care about OIL that is the agenda.The problem is if ya lay out the facts,people call it "CONSPIRACY"..We went from being the biggest producing Nation in the world to being the biggest consumer Nation.Ya gotta pay the piper.....
If they would just stay in their own country they could be used there and we would not have to get involved.
If you have time to blog. go do something
Ah, you americans make me LOL.
This is a tough story to read.
I wish no one has to go through this ever.
I have to say one thing that is not pertaining to this article. This world lives on exploitation.
Do you think a pair of $140 Nike Shoes actually cost even $10 to manufacture?
The factory employees might have a job and benefits but they are explited for their labour, there is NO fair pay.
Without exploitation, tere would be no HUGE profits.
I am amazed that the trafficker in this case only got 6 months of house arrest.
I think the sentence was toooo light for the crime.
Our legal system is flawed.
Too light? Kidnap another American Citizen, be prepared to to spend the next 20 year in prison. Kidnap an illegal alien, beat them, keep them locked up and force them to work 18 hours a day, and get away with just 6 months House Arrest? It's no wonder it's an exploding problem. With the money to be made with slave labor and the sentences the few they catch they are imposing, it looks like a very attractive business. Where do I sign up to get my own slaves.
Just go to your nearest city hall.
The factory floor labour may be cheap but the Nike CEOs and VPs and other senior executives are not cheap, And their marketing cost, like Tiger Wood's and other poster boys' sponsorships are not cheap.
Correct, our legal system is as flawed as our control of the borders and the completeness of this report. Illegal immigrants are costing California over $30 BILLION / YEAR in social and legal costs, as well as lost tax revenue, yet all we can do is feel sorry for them and give them more aid. This is aid that should be given first to American citizens, second to legal immigrants, and not at all to criminals like the slaves that voluntarily break our border laws. It is disgusting that we will be closing Calif. State Parks, schools, and other social services due to people who come here and use everything without paying for anything. The employers meanwhile get richer by the day and buy bigger houses in Beverly Hills and Malibu, while the rest of us live in neighborhoods flooded with desperate people from a foreign culture. I am old enough to remember LA when it was not like this, and it was a much nicer, safer place to live.
Tim:
Are you old enough to remember when LA was Mexican territory?
Al
And are you old enough to know that the mexicans took it from the indians, Stupid response. Are you proposing that basically all lands everywhere in the world are somehow "owned" by the the natives of the land of 2000 bc?
I agree Tim,
If you come to my country illegally,your broke my country's laws.No help.GO HOME.
Look at her face and tell me she is not fully descended from the NATIVE people of this continent.
Pilgrims like you will come...and go.
To joe: The Mexicans didn't take it from the Indians. The Mexicans ARE Indians, you moron. They speak Spanish because that part of North America was conquered by Spain, but they are direct descendants of the Native American tribes and Aztec nation (another Native American society) that existed here LONG before the palefaces ever came. I see now why Republicans despise public education. You obviously didn't take advantage of the education YOU were provided with.
Turn of Glenn BecKKK and read a freaking book.
Brandy, the Native Americans of what is now the United States are NOT the same as the Native peoples of Mexico or Latin America–and Native Americans of the US would have been the first to try to keep them out had they tried to move here. You might also note that plenty of Americans are of Native American ancestry. My nieces and nephew are. An African-American friend is. Likewise, my former office mate had two great something grandmothers who were.
I was in Thailand recently dated a girl that used to work at a Nike factory years ago in Chonburi. The pay was much more than other jobs overall, she was able to make 9,000 TBH a month working extra hrs, by choice. It's nothing in US standards but it is very fair pay over there. The material is very cheap and as you said the shoes altogether don't cost more than 10$ to make.
People that come into the USA illegally should be exploited for their labor. If they have a problem with it, move back to your home countries, don't complain to the taxpayers. Your a burden to the USA. Enough already. Anchor babies, welfare, food stamps, WIC, medicare...etc. End Birthright Citizenship..NOW!!!
Fed up.
how out people like you? US citizens who dont work and are burden on the society?
I dont se any difference...i think people who dont work shoul not get any govt aid at all!! hard working people sud never pay for them US citizen or not!
Some of you "enlightened" folks need to learn how to spell...to think...maybe even to consider someone outside of this country. Many of these poor folks from other countries are simply trying to escape the crushing poverty they can't seem to escape in their own lands. They're trying to survive. How do you think YOUR ancestors got here, Einstein?? Go far enough back, we're all immigrants. You think "they" are taking "our " jobs?? Go for it! YOU go work in the places they're willing to work! I suggest you get an education. You're gonna need it sooner or later, especially when they've learned a second (or third, or fourth) language and you still only speak English. You might be working for somebody who bettered himself or herself enough to be your employer. That would make me laugh.
I guess two wrongs all or a sudden make a right now. Yes they are people in America that do it too. But I still think American citizens should come first. A lot of poor struggling legal Americans get passed up to a poor illegal person. I feel bad for them to. Before I help my neighbor I need to take care of my immediate household. I would love to be able to do both, but just like America, continuing to do both is a big strain on our economy. My friend who works a low wage job can babrely put her child in preschool because she has to qualify, her income meets the criteria but because some of the other kids are poor and English is/will be their second language the American is put on the back burner because either the illegal preschool kid, or the anchor baby might take her spot.
You are an evil idiot. But at least you have company.
Yet another halfwit parroting Glenn BecKKK and Rush "My Ass Boil is Too Big to Serve My Country" Limbaugh. You were born on third base and you think you hit a homerun. Undocumented workers risk DEATH to get here. What did you do, other than pop out of your mother somewhere within the national borders? God help you if you ever get the country you so desperately wish for. You're gonna find out in a hurry that you've been lied to all your life, and there won't be jack that you can do about it. Do you know why the powers that be hate "socialism", and teach YOU to hate it too? Because socialism is incompatible with extreme wealth. Wealth isn't created out of thin air; the billionaires have to TAKE it from someone else in order to have it for themselves. They've been taking it from you your entire life, and brainwashing you into thinking that fighting against their greed is somehow morally wrong. You do their dirty work for them without even realizing it. You think you're free? Ha. You're a "house slave" and nothing more. You're a slave who has a slightly better position in life than the field slaves, and therefore you'll fight like hell against freedom for everyone because you've been trained to think of yourself as "part of the family". But you're not any billionaire's "family". You're a slave, I'm a slave, we're ALL slaves. We're just house slaves. The time is coming when we're going to have to decide whether we want safety and slavery or freedom and uncertainty. Educate yourself before that time comes, or you're going to end up on the wrong side of history with blood on your hands.
Here's some facts: Human Trafficking is the #1 Profit Business in the black market. They take unsuspecting, Uneducated people who believe pretty much anything their told when it comes to a better life. They set up ploys like modeling and job agencies all across the world so that they can get their victims who BELIEVE everything is LEGIT. There is also a lot of kidnapping where thousands of children worldwide go missing (even our citizens) and enter here illegally and EVEN legally. Victims usually become either sex slaves or exploited workers. The youngest victims that has been found was a 8 yr old girl that was forced into sex slavery. Please educate yourselves, this is not just an issue in the U.S. it's worldwide!!!! No one deserves this!
That's socialism you're advocating. It's been tried and it has always failed.
The worker is paid the value of his work to his employer. If he does not think he is being paid fairly, he is free to leave, and his employer is free to seek an employee who WILL work for his stated wage.
The issue here is that this woman was NOT free to leave. That's why this is slavery and that's why it is immoral.
The fact that there are producers who become rich while their laborers make the bare minimum for survival is because without the laborer, the producer can find another laborer. Without the producer, the laborer will starve. You cannot enslave an employer to his employees by forcing him to pay more than he is willing any more than you can allow an employer to enslave his employees by forbidding them to leave.
Kidnapping imprisonment up to 60 years.
Assault and Battery jail time up to 6 months.
Unlawful Restraint Jail time up to 180 days.
Having Slaves, 6 months of house arrest.
You gotta love America. Home of the Free. Free to own slaves appropriately.
I started a business a few years ago. I stayed there day and night for three years. It worked. Now it makes a little money each year (less than a teacher makes so keep your panties on, lefties). The government wants 60% of what I make. Given teh number of hours that pretty much makes it slavery. If this woman was so scarred after 40 days think what it would be like after three years!
I'm done with AMerica. Can one of you ubber-lefty-American-hating morons tell me which country I should sneak into? I do have three kids who will need someone to provide them with an education (translators, please. They aren't bilingual). Oh, and make sure they provide good healthcare. We live a healthy lifestyle so we don't have a lot of problems. But heck, if someone else is going to pay the freight, maybe we'll just get fat and lazy. Okay, now, please let me know which country I should sneak into so I get the best benefits available. (Don't forget the free housing we'll need. I'm kind of tired of working since I was workign so hard back when I started my business).
Necesita aprender otro idioma, idiota...es su propia culpa que es atrasada. Que pena leer toda la porquería de la gente creída en este país. Todos somos seres humanos y debe tener un poco de empatía para los demás en este mundo.
I agree with you Cyan. Im looking too. I havent had kids yet but I am a recent college graduate, looking to make about 35,000 a year if i want to in the near future I am going to have to pay some hospital bills even with insurance. If I dont pay it is going to be on my credit report and they will harass or do whatever till they get it. What country can I go to and go to the hospital, and come out without a bill and with my baby, and some information (ss#) or what ever(birth certificate) and get foodstamps and other assistance.
you can go back to your family ancestors country.
@cyan Quit your whining and get a job. You should be grateful that the US lets you start your own business so easily
Hey Cyan, just sneak into Cuba, and tell the goverment that capitalism is crap, they will give you an apartment in Havana 🙂
Nonsense. NO business pays 60% in taxes. You know it too. If you say you're paying 60%, you're either lying, or your accountant/bookkeeper is embezzling a huge amount of your money.
Ven a Mexico, aqui tambien hay hospitales gratis y cualquier gringo puede encontrar trabajo tambien.. claro que no espero que entiendas lo que estoy escribiendo porque la mayoria de los americanos son ignorantes y cerrados como lo muestran estas opiniones, son pateticos...
@Cyan, this women wasn't looking for the best benefits around for her and her children. She was trying to help her 3 children stay alive.
You worked for 3 years day and night because you wanted to, and because it was YOUR company. You enslave yourself you have no one to blame but yourself. She was forced to do it. They threatened her life and her family. I would have done the same.
"Ven a Mexico" says:
"Come to Mexico, here there are also hospitals for free and any gringo can find work too .. clear that I hope you understand what I'm writing because most Americans are ignorant and closed as shown by such views are pathetic ..."
Apparently "Ven a Mexico" doesn't give us credit for our intelligence.
you chose to start your business and you've chosen to continue it. If you want to close up shop no one's stopping you. That's the difference between you and a slave–you can end it anytime, the slave can't.
Cyan you sound ridiculous.
@ Fed Up: Learn how to translate if you're going to try to patronize someone. "Claro" doesn't mean "clear" in this case, it means "of course". I think Ven a Mexico may be on to something 😉 he surely knew you wouldn't get the message right.
My guess is that a Trafficker at one time got a stiffer penalty, but because a Trafficker in some case may have been a sympathetic person (meaning they just transported illegals), some politician wrote a bill to make sure that people who transport illegals are "protected".
That is why all of these customized, catered laws end up convoluting the legal system. It ends up that nothing makes sense....After all, was the victim ultimately deported? Why wasn't the woman who did the trafficking convicted of extortion, blackmail and kidknapping?
Slave labour in the USA??? And the Americans are criticising China for low labour rates???
Big difference being that over here it's not legal. The traffickers brow beat their victims into being afraid of going to the police because they know that if they do start talking the operation will be shut down or at the very least investigated.
His is horrible. I can't believe it is happening, here in LA – today! Just horrible.
Kudos to the co-worker. We all should be more aware of the posibilities that some people around us may be modern-day slaves.
If you can't believe it, then you have your eyes closed. Here in LA, hispanics are becoming the majority ethnic group because they are fleeing their corrupt poverty sustained countries by the millions, coming here without permission or documentation, taking jobs for cash, paying no payroll tax, unfairly competing for jobs, and in general weighing down our system. Our schools, welfare system, and jails are buckeling under the weight of their numbers, and if you don't believe that, your eyes are still closed. If they did not come here illegally, they would not have been exploited this way. If I enter into a drug smuggling operation, and my cartel boss shoots me so he doesn't have to pay, isn't it partly my own fault??
No one deserves such treatment. Is not a thief still a thief when he/she steals from someone? Thus, a criminal act is still a criminal act even if it IS against another 'criminal'. If there were more policing of certain unlawful practices that allow the exploitation of undocumented and illegal immigrants, they would be less likely to come here. If we also, punished those found here illegaly (fined them of all of their unlawful earnings and sent them back home with nothing...I believe that's a fitting punishment that would decrease the sneaking over here once word got out about it) we would have less of these occurrences. IJS.
So true. I do feel bad for the lady in all, but on one hand how do I call a person a slave, when they told me along time ago when we had slaves in our country they were brought over in boats to another country, they were chained down the whole way here, they were kidnapped from their homes and villages, tooken away from their families, and never seen their other family members again, these were not just threats it happened, it wasnt even a threat at all, if they wanted someones kid brother or dad, they would buy and selll with no threat at all made to anyone. This person came and snuck here and then got assistance, and was still paid money.
Hello Tim,
I just want to let you know that I am a Hispanic and never asked for any kind of federal or state assistance. I pay all my taxes. What is funny is that today, I encountered a homeless person asking for food, he was us citizen and white. Nobody helped him, certantly I felt the need of helping him, so I bought him a hamburger. I did not care whether he pays taxes or white or lazy or alcoholic. You see race as the problem of this nation. I see people like you the problem of our world. I feel sorry for you, you feel better that the rest, only because of the color of your skin. People like you assume that they are great, better, and valuable just for one simple thing your skin. Other cultures and races see the hearth and the brain as the most valuable aspect of a humman being. Keep it up I can see how pround you are of your skin. I am pround of my hearth, skin, and my brain. You are nobody other than ignorant, white (congrats) but ignorant. In any other country outside of the u.s you are nothing. I know what it is going to be your answer ...I do not have to leave this country...perfect because the world does not need lose garbage like you around the world...Unfortunatly we have to deal with you...In a few years your skin and you pride will be a minority, yes a minor...ity but do not worry you have your little white skin let see if it helps you?
Believed or not it is part of your fault. Corporations and puppet government ruin countries economies making poor people look for another options. the most common is go to USA where everything started.
Thank you Jo for that. You seem to have a firm grasp on reality. Tim, you on the other hand may want to look into the fact that the jails are filled with lower class American citizens for non violent drug crimes. There may be a few illegal immigrants, however the majority of imprisoned people are in fact US citizens. By the way the US has the most people incarcerated in the world, numbers wise and per capita, and the bulk of them are lower class. So in your estimates kick out the few illegals so there is more room for our other nonviolent criminals? How about we take everyone that has any illegal immigrant blood in them and throw them out of the country? Let me see that wont work because your white supermajority is all illegally in this country. All white people are of european descent. The only true Americans are going to be the native American tribes that have stayed pure, but your white men killed most of them off early on in this "great nation". Better living through genocide in your words.... crackpot.
JP where in the world did you get your information about prison populations? It is completely bogus. The majority of prisoners are mintorites. More then 33% are illegal immigrants and 25% are immigrants. So almost 60% are illegal immigrants or immigrants. What does that say about the immigrant/illegal immigrant population?
What do you expect
Americans want everything super cheap, that is why all our stuff is made in sweatshops by slaves, otherwise we'd be paying $500 for a pair of shoes that normally go for $50.
Americans? Just Americans? This crap is happening everywhere! Not just Americans.
Guess who the big offenders in these situations are. Immigrants. Immigrants like Dov Charney of American Apparel who took pride in hiring illegal aliens. Now, if he wants to "help" them so much, why didn't he set up shop across the border in Mexico rather than in LA? Could it be he wants the comfort of living in the U.S. without the business cost?
A number of years ago, there was an interview with apparel manufacturers who were literally taking pride in the fact that they were turning LA into a Third World country (their words) by using subcontractors who hired illegal alien labor. People who advocate for illegal aliens should be aware of just what they're enabling–exploitation of workers.
In all of the this, people seem to be forgetting that the victims are illegal aliens. One of the reasons the US should be controlling its borders more effectively is so that employers cannot exploit ANYBODY for cheap labor. If these "victims" did not enter into an unlawful contract with their smuggler and employer, killing any chance of an AMERICAN CITIZEN making a DECENT WAGE at manual labor jobs, perhaps we would have more tax paying decent paying jobs here. Sure the latest fashion would cost twice as much, but at least an unskilled American could have a job, and the governement would get a little tax revenue. This is obvious, but overlooked for reasons one must assume are social agenda and political bias on the part of CNN and Californian politicians. Meanwhile, Mexico dumps more of their destitution on our doorstep, and go on their merry way. The victims end up on welfare and we pay the price.
Tim you really sound like a very ignorant person. Read, research, educate yourself, and then, give your opinion. Thank you.
deport all the illegals l and charge them a departure tax
The irony of all this ranting is the "illegal woman" in the story was not receiving ANY welfare, government help at all. She was being held captive by a trafficker who purposely sought out people like her and promised her work in another country. So you really think that these poor women in poverty stricken areas understand all of the legalities and documentation of entry into our country? The only U..S. government that "helped"her was the FBI when she HELPED them catch this trafficker. Why would you rail against a women who actually assisted in the capture and arrest of a trafficker?
Additionally, it is quite ironic to me how we rant and rave about the illegals that are taking welfare, free health care, etc... but we have yet to see anyone put a face to that. However I have heard story after story of "good"" Americans who are defrauding the government through false disability claims, refusing to marry the father of their children, all the while living with him, so as to receive the welfare checks and WIC funds. Stories of families with two jobs, purposely keeping their wages under the bracket, to continue to receive food stamps. (to the tune of 700+ a month) People who have turned down age increases so as to stay on state funded health plans. However, I I have never never once met an illegal alien who was on medicaid, medicare, WIC or welfare. Did I mention I live in Arizona????
It seems to me , we Americans have created the socialist monster and instead of pulling it off of our backs and putting it to death, we instead rail against the offspring of the monster. If you want to get rid of all the monster off-spring, you always kill the mother that feeds it first. Kill the socialist welfare package and you will effectively rid yourself of the dredges of society.
Of course we could do the really crazy thing and make immigration extremely easy, which would force everyone to pay taxes and carry the debt load. But that would be insane....right???
It would also be insane for us to expect the naturally born and raised us citizen to be able to pass the us immigration exam. Which, by the way most, natural US citizens fail while all legal US immigrants must pass.
3 children would be dead because their mother couldn't afford healthcare, but hey at least America would get a little more tax revenue.
Negotiating the sale of a 3 year old: an undercover filmmaker encounters child traffickers http://tinyurl.com/3oashqm
Tim,
Most victims in the US are NOT illegal aliens. Many are US citizens and many of them are underage. Others come here with valid US visas but are tricked into coming. They don't end up on welfare because they're outside the system; they're held in slavery, not on welfare. This is a common misconception but is not accurate. I encourage you to read our website and blog for more information.
Diana Scimone
Director
The Born2Fly Project to stop child trafficking
http://www.born2fly.org
http://www.dianascimone.com
I would like for you to tell me if this lady in the article is not an illegal alien. How do you get a visa for minimum wage labor? They are tricked but not with a visa, they are tricked because of their poverty. Call spade a spade. Though I am very sympathetic to this lady and many who are exploited I have to disagree with you that most illegal immigrants abuse the system. If illegal aliens have kids who are citizens by birthright they are recieving welfare checks. They are getting into public schools.
Yeah illegal immigrants pay taxes via "sales tax" but citizens and legal immigrants also pay "sales" tax + income taxes which illegals don't. Yet they are getting welfare for the US citizen kids.
Any trafficking is bad and this unfortunately is not child trafficking. This lady wanted a job and out of desperation took this job which turned into a nightmare. I am sure they told her about long hours and she is mexican so $200 is a lot of money.
Hi Bnakka,
Yes, she was here illegally and many are. But my point in response to Tim was that not all victims of human trafficking are illegal aliens. It would be very convenient to say they are, but trust me–I've worked in this field for 5 years and they are not all illegal aliens. Many are here legally with legal visas. And many more are US citizens.
You asked how they come here "legally" and get enslaved. Traffickers show up, for example, in cities in eastern Europe with visa applications for the US. They portray themselves as agents who will help young women (young college educated women) get jobs in the US. The visa application is real. The traffickers meet with her parents to assure them that all is well. The family files the application with the US embassy, the young woman gets her visa, hops on a plane, and is met in the US by a contact who supposedly is going to take her to her new job. He offers to hold her passport and visa for safe keeping. Instead of driving her to her new job, he takes her to a brothel. If she tries to run away, her captors remind her they know where her parents are and if she runs away, her parents will be killed.
I wish it were as simple as saying, "If they didn't come to this country illegally, they wouldn't be in this mess." (And even if they ARE here illegally, no one deserves to be raped for profit 30 times a night.)
I hope this clarifies some of the misconceptions about trafficking. Thank you for reading this.
Diana Scimone
Director
The Born2Fly Project to stop child trafficking
http://www.born2fly.org
http://www.dianascimone.com
We don't need slavery, we don't need illegals, close the borders, and send the traffickers and along with illegals who cross our borders back to where they came from. Mexican illegal border crossing our major problem which has cause the economic disaster here. This country has no need to spend money to settle the illegal;s problems. Send them to jails or send them back to where they came here form.
if you believe that:
"Mexican illegal border crossing our major problem which has cause the economic disaster here."
you are one of the most deluded people I have ever encountered......
Anyone who DOESN'T think illegal Mexican border crossings are seriously damaging the economy is seriously deluded and has never been to the south. Come see what's left of the once-thriving American border cities that are now flooded with illegal immigrants (and worse: their children).
Aimed@doubtful1 ("if you believe that:'Mexican illegal border crossing our major problem which has cause the economic disaster here.' you are one of the most deluded people I have ever encountered......"). April 5, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
Doubtful, you sound like you are about 12 or 13 and mexican. No sain American would have that opinion. Just turn on CNN and they will explain to you why illegals are causing such a problem economically for US Citizens. In fact, many State have passed laws to punish the wicked mexicans by throwing them back over the wall.
But if you are an American, I say you are guilty of Treason and will make every attempt to carry out your sentence forthright.
Talk about gall. She is a criminal, period. She CHOSE to break the law and do something illegal and is now crying about others doing illegal things. I don't care what happened to her, she asked for it.
Too bad so sad.
the day that the americans STOP using drugs that they many, many countries such as COLOMBIA and MEXICO will have a better life for their citizens. Colombia has fought for almost 3 decades the drug lords but there is not goverment powerful enough on the planet earth to stop the most lucrative business in the world: THE DRUG BUSINESS. Americans need to stop consuming all the drugs and the planet earth will be a better place to live.
VERDAD!!!!!
Their economies would be in even worse shape without the money from drugs.
We have a neighbor to our north, Canada, but Canada isn't flooding our cities with drugs or experiencing violence from cartels because of it. Could it possibly be that Mexico's problems are because of MEXICO's tolerance of corruption? And Mexico's poverty? After all, Mexico is a wealthy country, #14 or 15 in GDP, and home to the world's richest man, yet most Mexicans live in poverty. That has nothing to do, does it, with corruption? With having more kids than you can afford to support? With making people so poor and desperate that they're willing to turn to selling drugs to earn a living.
I beg to differ, Canada is supplying a good amount of High Quality drugs to the US market. The difference is Canada is not supplying a steady stream of illegal immigrants so the drug trafficking is overlooked. Besides a majority of Canadians really don't want to legally immigrate let alone illegally immigrate to the US. The system they have works better than ours, more freedoms and better accents than the undereducated rednecks in the south.
Stop sniffing Americans, that is illegal too!!!
If there's anything I LOATHE it's people who de-humanize others by calling them "illegals." They are PEOPLE, whether or not you agree with what they're doing, and diminishing their human value which, like it or not, is EQUAL to yours by calling them "illegals" simply shows what a debased view of other human beings you have.
I suppose you would loathe people that said that if you're so stupid that you don't realize that humanity is implied in "illegals". We're not talking about illegal Mexican puppies, here. Stop being a dumb itch.
There can be no doubt that you are obviously an authority both on civility and humanity.
Illegal aliens are just that–aliens who are in this country illegally. It is no more a comment on their humanity than saying someone is an embezzler, a forger, a rapist, etc.
That's what they are, Kate. I don't candy coat it for bleeding hearts like you.
You are right you don't need them. The corporations need them. so live with that, and get over.
The Orange County, California, Social Services Agency takes children from their parents unlawfully, or do you believe a rate 215% of the rest of the state's isn't indicative of something amiss in SS Agency's Child Protective Services? There is a human trafficking enterprise embedded in the County's implementation of the statutory dependency system that uses the funds it gets for the stolen children to fund Republican Party causes. I got my kids out unconditionally after a bruising 26 month slugfest in the County's Juvenile Courts because a year of law school gave us an independent voice with which to fight a wholly corrupt system. Sadly, we are the exception, rather than the norm. A woman I've been trying to help was put in a coma for a week by her boyfriend when she told him to leave her house. On waking, SS Workers visited her to tell her her children had been taken into SS Agency custody and she could not have any information as to her sons', 1 and 2 y/o, whereabouts or see them until she went to court a month later. SS Agency alleges she put the childrens' health and welfare in jeopardy because she left them without care, and is trying to terminate her parental rights. Worse, SS Workers took her newborn daughter, a year old now, because they claimed she would endanger the baby's physical and emotional health and welfare by exposing it to domestic violence by continuing her relationship with the father, the man who put her in a coma. The malice with which SS Workers operate without any controls is best exemplified by the fact the SS Workers gave the father, the head butter, custody of the baby, though he's a convicted felon and meth addict who has posted pictures of himself with guns on Facebook. My evidence? How's about documents from the County of Orange SS Agency?
My sister works for far lower than minimum wage because she can't find a job. Who protects people against such cruel actions?
What is her home town? Where is she originally from?
Perfect example of corporate america not only doing this abroad but at home too!
can we have 1 hour of good news somewhere. gawd!
did someone call me?
HAHA!
GOP health care plan: Create slaves out of the Old and Sick people. Then whip the Old and Sick people until they are young and healthy. Or until they die. Then turn them into Soylent Green.
who cares? she's illegal here, so get the f- out if you don't like it. god i hate reading these pro-illegal liberals using sob stories like this. no one like slavery, but hey if you don't want to work for a living and build a life, get out!
hey faggit, you sound like a piece of $hit loser
agree with Jimm
That's right, Jimm, keep regurgitating what Glenn Beck tells you. I can only hope you don't claim to be a Christian. What most of the conservative posters are failing to recognize is that these and other immigrants are still human beings just like us, so why should they be denied the ability to enjoy a life like ours? Also, unless someone is a Native American, most of us are descendants of immigrants. Why was it okay for hundreds of years for people to come to our country, but now we're going to shut down the borders and claim no one else may ever enter? And truthfully, many of the immigrants who work in this country routinely do jobs that most Americans don't want to touch. Why not make those who are currently in this country illegally legal immigrants and then have them pay taxes? Problem solved! It's people like you, Jimm, who make me detest the Republican party.
Most so called illegal immigrants ARE Native Americans! You do not see too many "white" Mexicans in these situations. You don't see VIcente Fox at a parking lot in Home Depot. You never saw Ricardo Montalban in the kitchen at Denny's. What you will see are INDIANS.
You do realize, don't you, that times change? That when my immigrant ancestors came here circa 1900, most people were uneducated and you could move into the middle class by doing a decent-paying factory job. Try that now. You might also note that my immigrant ancestors didn't get "free" educations, or "free" anything else, because we didn't have income taxes and didn't have the social programs and welfare these pay for. So yes, we do get to shut off the immigration spigot, and we do get to say who can immigrate here. If Native Americans had had the sense to work together and create a nation with immigration laws they enforced, they'd still dominate this continent.
I would like to know the name of the Department Store and the brand of the dresses that the Trafficker sold to. It is so sad that she and others are going through this, not only around the globe, but especially in modern day America! It is an abysmal, horrible crime that needs more light and advocacy against.
I agree. I would not buy my dresses there anymore. Patita
agree, i would like the name, should be able to get a good deal there
"Any Department Store or big box retailer in the USA" Just look at the prices on clearance racks. pennies sears kohls macy's wal mart target kmart. it's all the same.
99% of the money that the illegal people pay in taxes (the vas majority of the illegals work for factories or companies that deduct their thaxes from their paycheck, not all of them get paid cash as is the general asumption) is now in hands of the government. Research it. Millions of dollars that haven't been claimed because the illegal aliens don't have social security to report taxes. They provide cheap and effective labor which helps to support the economy. A lot of people complain about them but my question is: I live in sunny florida and I see the mexicans working all the landscaping for $7 dollars / hour at 100 degrees or more during the summer. How many caucasians or african americans are going to do it at this price?
illegals take advantage, deport them all and charge them a departure tax
James...you are right; all mexicans should go back...and fix their own system. They think it's their "right" to come here....break our laws....(which they don't respect). They need to fix their own system in their country.
To pay taxes, you need to use some sort of SS or ITIN number. If the former, well, it's likely a stolen ID that's going to create a world of hurt for the real owner with the IRS who will be after him for taxes on the money he's "earned". If ITIN, then you file tax returns and get money back. In fact, the IRS has provided more than $billion in Earned Income Tax Credit –money that was never paid in in the first place–to illegal aliens even though they're not eligible to get it.
figures you agree with a name like Armando. why dont you people stay in your shi**y countries down south. we dont want you.
First of all, as the story states, she was living unmarried in Mexico having many children with no husband, she then decides to sneak into the U.S. as an illegal alien, no SS card, paying no taxes and tries to suck up all of the benefits that tax paying American Citizens are working for, however since she still cannot speak English she gets caught up in all of it and is forced to WORK (oh my) so if this poor thing doesn't like it then let her go back to Mexico where she belongs. End of problem.
you have no empathy. rot in hell
BIEN DICHO ALFREDO!!!
agree, she should get the hell out
Empathy? for trash? no way
Idiots like her don't deserve sympathy. Sounds like her entire life was just one bad idea after the next.
I don't think she understands all the implications you mention Steve. But, bear in mind that -as Vicente Fox once said- Mexicans in the US are doing the job that not even blacks want to do... nor rednecks either, me thinks 😉
She is a Native of this continent. You have NO right to tell her where she can be, invader!
Ay, pobrecito... ¿Y ud. habla otro idioma, verdad? ¡Qué idiota! De segura esta pobre mejer es mucho más inteligente que ud. Me parece que ud. es el problema en este país. Y no, no soy latina.
Lowlife illegals need to get out of our country!
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humanity and society needs to be wiped out and start over.
There are many american women unmarried, having many children, with no husband, who live in wellfare, who receive food stamps, who don't pay taxes but instead receive money from the government, but that have SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER and are AMERICAN CITIZENS. I work veeeeery hard and my hard earned money goes to support the bottom of the society who are these kind of people who were born in the greatest country in the world, with all the opportunities to the reach of their hand, many advantages that this mexican woman doesnt have and wont have and still I have to work to support these women who are in their vast majority pot smokers and drunks. End of the problem.
I forgot to add I love to suk off dogs
My last girlfriend was a sheep.
I guess someone ("STEVE" MAYBE????) is using my nickname to post derogatory comments. Its okay! just go and use some drugs while I will go and read a book and educate myself. Have a great night !!! maricon
It's a conspiracy!
English only Paco.
right, she knowingly entered the country illegally, spent 40 days as a "slave" and has been on the federal doll at tax payer expense to who knows how long. safely deport her home.
Lou50 for president. WE could sure use one.
you could use a big black pinga in your culo maricon
Sorry, Illegalita, but you get no sympathy from me. You chose to sell your soul and your body. And for what? A few dollars.
I only hope that they deported you after your "master" was sentenced.
hey CNN, whats the brand? which department stores? lets stop protecting the brands here. this article does little but merely expose the emptiness of the entire media in regard to the real issue at hand.
money protecting money.
great point!
Hey CNN publish the trafficker's name already...it's public record, they were sentenced. Maybe then they would be less likely to go after this poor lady's family.
I can´t imagine there is much of these products made in the U.S.
If you look to the stickers on products and merchandise 99% is made in China.
However, it is a sad story. I also hope that "modern slavery" in the Retail Industry gets their a*** kicked by the new law.
The new law? Do you realize murder is illegal but it happens every day in every US city? Get a grip jakasss
The government is going to shut down on Friday, then all the illegals can come right over without worries.
They already do.
The United States is a country in decline due to Obama. People like this woman need to be sent back to their origin immediately, no questions asked.
They should have sent your ancestors back where they came from, Dilllldooo
Io quiero Pinga
the us is in decline, but not because of obama. greed is the cuplrit
It's not Obama's fault. Blame the greedy Americans who like to illegally hire or enslave immigrants so they can profit or get cheap labor or weed.
Yep... the american indians were dumb enough to welcome foreigners to their land, and look what happened to them. We've learned from history... get the F out of our country illegals... and while you're at it, take all of the other immigrants with you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAA. Really? Obama caused this?? How about this... The US has been in economic trouble since the 60's. Both Democrat and Repunlicans are to blame. LBJ with Vietnam. Nixon with the termination of the US gold standard in 1971, carter was a bust, reaganomics bit us in the ass, hw bush in kuwait, clinton and the subprime mortgage start. W with iraq and the big car company bailout, Obama with healthcare. it is both parties to blame. have the government take all the politicians assests and all the funding they get and then have politicians salaries be provided only if th egovernment reduces its debt and makes a profit without tax changes or false profits through company donations... Make teh GDP/spending ration the marker by which all politicians get paid.
I am a pato and I love BIG ones
lets take all the illegal immigrants who work HARD for less than minimum wage and give them visas, ss cards (heck let's make them citizens)!
Now... let's take all the bums who live on WELFARE, are drunks and drug addicts... and let's send them to Mexico!!!
YEEAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!
there are too many self rightous bigots in the USA.... We seem to forget where we came from and who we trampled over for us to have what we have today.
We've all gotten fat and lazy and like to sit in our lazy-boy chairs and pass judgement.
Our ancestors would kick our @$$es if they saw the way live/act.
chivolry is dead.... now men ask to see an ID card before helping a woman. all these posters condemning and deriding this woman make me sick.
I came from my mother in the good ol' US of A. I have no problem protecting what I was born into. You come into my home and try to take stuff from me, you'll get killed. America is also my home. Illegals go back to your own home, call Juan Valdez and his trusty goat and start picking coffee beans like you were meant to.
On the contrary, our ancestors would think us fools for letting illegal aliens get away with this–and providing social services to them besides.
It's sad that this kind of stuff continues to go on here. ...the upside though is that we have organizations that combat it...unlike in other countries.
don't know about "combat" it...
Io Quiero Taco Bell
ipploit
It's so awful that people like you, with no morals or compassion, live in luxury in a free country. Like someone else said, you are just lucky to be born here, but you sound as though you think it is somehow to your credit that you were born here. It is a free country and, unfortunately ignorant low lifes like you have the freedom to spew any vomit they wish. Vomit isn't a good enough term for the words you write.
I agree. too many haters here. you all came from somewhere else, you turds!
You do realize that Mexico is a FREE country, don't you? And that Mexico is also a wealthy country, #14 or 15 in GDP, and home to the world's richest man. So, why isn't this woman in Mexico, demanding help from her own government?
The moral of the story here is that if you can't afford to take care of one child, do not have four. She sounds like she was a slave to her own bad life decisions even before coming to the US.
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Yes Ed, send them back. That way the manufacturer's will either: A. Hire legal workers at minimum wage and raise the cost of the product and be outsold by foreign competition or... B. Move out of the country and hire foreign workers to produce the same item. It's capitalism my friend. The country was great when it had cheap labor and nobody raised an eyebrow to illegal immigration. Why do you think companies are forced to leave and go abroad?
When cheap goods are produced abroad, we import just the good. With illegal alien labor, we import not only the labor to make the good, but a person with needs who will likely also have or bring a family that we will need to subsidize. THAT's the difference. Cheap goods produced overseas are cheap because the cost of living in the country where they're produced is lower and wages are lower. Cheap goods produced in this country by low wage labor are subsidized by the taxpayer who pays for educations and healthcare of that low wage labor and its families.
Horrible story, but I'm glad she got out. Now, since she's free from that slavery job, she can now leave and return to her homeland and respect our immigration laws. I wish her nothing but the best so she can provide for her family.... but there are many sad human drama stories of illegals trying to do what's right for their family even though it goes against our country's laws.
If our country continues to look the other way, we won't have anything left. Mexico needs to fix its own problems and create jobs, we can't keep supporting the weight of so many, our country has its own problems without trying to help a continuing influx of non-residents. Sounds harsh folks, but its REALITY!!!!
Don't pull the race card either......its straight across the board that applies to anyone who's not a legal resident, or who is here illegally. And for those of you who continue to bring up the historical facts of the land once belonging to Mexico....how is that solving the immigration problem? All your doing when you make that argument is saying that people from Mexico are entitled to break our laws and come here illegally.
can someone say: coo coo bigot?
Your lack of a proper response tells me you lack a sufficient argument. NEXT!
Please, "US Citizen," LEARN ENGLISH: YOU + ARE = YOU'RE, not YOUR. YOUR = something belonging to you! Sheesh! At least the "illegals" are becoming bilinguals, unlike most of the people in this country! LAZY, LAZY!
Why aren't there any Mexicans in the summer olympics? Any one of them that can run, jump, or swim is already over HERE!!
Why can't our government put them back where they belong?
That land once belonging to Mexico belonged to Native Americans before that–and the Native American peoples of what is now the US are NOT the same as the Native peoples of Mexico or Latin America. As someone else has pointed out, even if Mexicans had retained the land, they still would be complaining about conditions in Mexico and sneaking across the border into Washington State or Oregon. They've mismanaged the Mexico they do have and would do the same with what is now California, etc. In fact, if you look at California, you get a pretty good picture of what the whole SW might look like under a Mexican government. It isn't pretty.
Well she's the idiot that fell for it! No one can be forced to do anything in this country so all she had to do was tell her "teacher" to F off and find a new job! Their are tons of companies in the USA willing to pay $8.00 an hour!
now you're calling her an idiot? YOU are a PATHETIC WORM
You are just plain stupid, man.
to kate above critiziing we Americans on illegal immigration. Please tell me how to become an illegal immigrant so that i can have free health care, free housing, tax-free everything and all the other senseless unjustified benefits that go with illegals entering this country be it anchor baby moms or whatever. You are wrong to assume we dont deserve what we natural born citizens have. are you kidding? you have no idea how much illegals are adding to the declining economy. why cant they stay in their own countries and make them a better place to live. stay away from ours. It is ours and despite the "ease" of being born; it is what it is and it should not be held against us.
oops, that should be "US" Americans, dear. Learn English, please.
You don't have to be illegal to get all of these "benefits". My sister is on welfare, is married with one child and another on the way. She hasn't worked a day in her life (she's 23) nor does she have the desire to work. They get FREE healthcare, FREE foodstamps, FREE spending money, FREE housing, FREE WIC (free eggs, milk, fruits, veggies, baby formula). She has nothing physically or mentally preventing her from working. She just doesn't want to, because then she'd lose all the freebies she gets just for being born here.
I'd much rather have my tax money going to help this poor woman from Mexico who only wanted better for her children (heck, she only wants to keep them alive!) and who was willing to work for it.
You know, "Me", it's obvious you've never been outside of the United States, maybe even your State. People in other countries don't have ready access to birth control, or sometimes, they don't even know there are options about having children. You need to go someplace else so you will not be so ignorant about how other countries and societies function.
Not knowing about options works as an excuse for one child, but after two.. three... four... yeah, you have no excuse for that. "Hmm, I have no husband, no money, my children are dying because I can't afford to care for them..... awww what the heck, I'll have another"
Anybody here who thinks that illegal Mexicans in America should be punished can go live in Mexico for a while. My neighbor is a legal Mexican immigrant, and her family that lives in Mexico has told her that there's no way in hell she's coming back to Mexico, especially with her kids.
Now, who do you think is making Mexico so unpalatable to live in? How about–MEXICANS. Mexicans who immigrate here, especially those who come illegally, bring their culture with them, a culture that does not value personal responsibility, achievement, and education. A culture that tolerates corruption.
A preview of what's in store for all American workers once the Republican leadership achieves its goal of handing the country over to corporate rule.
congratulations! most of you making comments have clearly demonstrated American stupidity. all you liberals and conservatives are advised to keep your mouths shut to prevent you stupidity from being publicly known. just sit down, shut up and realize you have nothing intelligent or useful to say on any subject.
ps. i hope cnn will get smart and shut off the comments to their stories. the comments show no other purpose than to demonstrate human stupidity and rudeness. anarchy sucks.
also, I'm gay.
bi actually.
Jackson, There is a way for you to come out of your gay behavior. It's called repentance. Jesus Christ will help you. Pray to him for help with your trial of faith. I know that He will help you.
trust me, from my experience having another person, male or female, screaming in pain and writhing in terror under you is a great experience.
Many pathetic losers on here tonite
i concur.
The Govt is shuttering its doors friday.
Ok lets replace all the lazy caucasians and african-americans who are born here and have nothing else to do but show up on 16 and pregnant and Maury, with the mexicans who actually come to this country for a better life. Or at least let them go to the states this country basically stole from Mexico. Problem solved.
what the heck you talkin bout loser?????
He is talking about Texas and California, step out of the trailer and look, its happening!
You mean the states we "stole from Mexico" by PAYING for them?
I'm proud to be a wetback! er, I mean, Mexican American.
You mean, replace them with losers like this woman who has several kids she can't afford to support and whose own government doesn't want her?
If Mexicans are as hard working as you imply, why would they need to leave Mexico for a better life in the first place? Your attitude is a major part of this growing problem.
Terrible thing that happened to her. The traffikers should go to jail for purposely exploiting vulnerable people.
On the other hand, this is not completely victimless. She agreed to enter the US illegally, and also knew that she'd have to entrust her mother and her children in the hands of these traffikers. She endangered her own family and came to the US undocumented by her own volition. What she's mad about is that the traffikers made her work long hours with little pay, food, and sleep. Had they paid her more money and gave her the weekends off, I'm sure she would be still be working there, illegally, off the taxpayer dime and contributing to this illegal immigration problem we have.
So my sympathy is only like 30% here.
STFU
blancos eres cucarachas que io esto escarango
mmmm, methinks you must've taken one semester of Spanish somewhere and think you are understandable. NOT! The effect is pretty comical, though, I must say.
chupame
The "trafficker" should be expose in the media, and left with out a job, factory, etc.
Government and FBI did nothing... as a message for other "traffickers" to keep up the good work.
FBI: Federal Bungling Idiots
actually its Federal Bureau of Investigation. more proof Americans are idiots.
no its Federal Bureau of Investigation. says so right on their website. go look it up for your self.
F U Dildo
La cucaracha, la cucaracha,
Ya no quieres caminar,
Porque no tienes,
Porque le falta,
Marihuana que fumar.
si, si, me gusta mucha. la cucaracha y la marihuana!!!!!! y cerveza. Viva MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, we have an illegal alien who has 4 children. Now thank God we got her onto the medicaid program so I know that my tax dollars are helping her. She should have stayed in her own country. This is the price I pay for people who do things like this. What a shame.
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your tax dollars are being squandered everywhere, you moron
please god, pray for mankind
Jesus, who are you asking God to pray to?
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I suspect many companies use such tactics behind closed doors; especially non-exempt positions such as managers and such. I know from experience 'the' worlds largest retailer is responsible for the same form of treatment and tyranny. I know as an insider and am fortunate to not be a part of it. Many workers were terrorized by upper management much like this woman was terrorized. And our govt. does nothing to stop it. It is sad.
Do you think if she was totally hot, let's say like Selena Gomez, opportunities would have presented themselves differently to her? I am serious.
There are many dynamics at play here.
I am amazed/appalled at how Mexicans treat their brethren.
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take the toad out of your asss
he is enjoying it too much
very sad story, where can I donate $$??
the federal gov who is paying for them.
these are humans. they deserve and need our help. try to think about someone else for a change. I am appalled.
i was being completely serious too. lol
not too serious. the US is bankrupt. they will shut down Friday. Game over. let the riots begin.
where is osama?????
who? that's old news.
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at least mexicans dont marry their cousins. #yesracial
you obviously haven't met the Mexican side of my family.
you say facial?
You're right, they don't, because getting married would then decrease or cut off their welfare benefits.
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People who are living in poor conditions don't have access to a decent life nor a law book. The exact consequences of "illegal immigration" might have not been known to her or the information she gained was false or misleading.
You cannot expect a woman living in the slums to be educated on our laws. Based on her imprisionment, it is clear she did not even know her basic, international human rights.
she needs to go to jail. she broke the law and is uneducated.
....duuuhhhh, and I see quite clearly by your username that YOU are just OH SO EDUCATED! woo-hoo!
Exactly! I like your comments.
You seem to be assuming that all readers here are objective and intelligent human beings as you seem to be, but that's not the case. Your objective comment will be seen as too liberal and will be addressed in a derogatory manner by ignorant arrogants who don't know the history of their own country.
No, but Mexico is a democracy and a wealthy one at that. Of course, you'd never know the latter from Mexicans. Mexico's elite have done too good a job at brainwashing their poor into believing that Mexico is a poor country. It has a lot of poor people because of massive income inequality, but the money's there. Carlos Slim Helu, a Mexican of Arab descent, is the richest man in the world and his brother is also one of them. You can bet this woman doesn't know that, or know enough to demand a better life from her own government.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Did you know the people running these garment slave factories downtown LA aren't even from the US? Most are from Egypt, Syria, Iraq and other foreign places – More than slave labor, they're here to take advantage of cheap fabric and easy shipping to US retailers, because they have no access like that in their own horrible countries –
Yeah, Mexicans will go home when you squatters go back to your own countries too – England, sweden, Ireland....or where ever you and ancestors came from. Mexicans were on this continent before you – so get lost
FU and STFU a-ho;le
no, you get lost, you fart smell guy
Mexicans were not on this continent before us. Mexico is a younger country than the U.S. And the Spanish conquered native Americans not only in the US but Mexico and Latin America. All you Latinos can go back to Europe as well.
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There are two main types of written Arabic:
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What? You think we're ready for ARABIC LESSONS already? No, that will come a few wars later. Thank you very much.
Until you've wiped out or converted all INFIDELS, we Americans included, who gives a flying fig about the language you use to express your warped and perverted views.
Not ME. And I bet NOT a lot of other regular folks.
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so sorry. americans not stupid.
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I lived in Dubai for a few months. As I recall, Dubai is run by expats because the natives are too ignorant to do it–and need to learn urgently because the oil money is likely to dry up leaving the emirate without the money to hire expats to do its dirty work, including sitting on your face.
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Blame Bush. he did it
More border patrols are needed. Those who come here illegally should be fined and returned to their country. Those who hire illegals should receive large fines and jail time. Wrong is done on both sides and it must be stopped. We cannot afford to support illegals or crooks.
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The US Govt refuses to institute a program called Everify. we are our own worse enemy.
This should be law: E-Verify is an Internet-based system that allows an employer to determine the eligibility of that employee to work in the United States. There is no charge to employers to use E-Verify. The E-Verify system is operated by the Department of Homeland Security in partnership with the Social Security Administration.
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Only in America can an illegal immigrant get on the front page of CNN.
Same as the mother of that little 4 year old who returned to the US just last week. Smiling right at us in that camera... Amazing.
Another ILLEGAL with a sob story. Bust out the violin and beans.
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The United States took what they call "California" from Mexico(out of its selfish, imperialistic nature). The Mexicans deserve that land.
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Some of the posts here are unbelievable. She broke the law, she should have been deported. Slavery is never justified. Ever. I would think that considering the history of this country, people would be a lot more anti-slavery by nature. It is amazing to me how people could justify such action and can't distinguish between justice and human enslavement.
She is an illegal, she has no constitutional rights in America!
You don't understand the constitution.
Sorry, but i DOOO. the constitution is for american citizens, read it.
The first line of the Constitution, "We the people of the United States..." Is she a person of the United States? Last time I checked she came here illegally, which does not qualify her for these rights. However she has human rights, therefore she shouldnt be enslaved, and something should be done to the owner of the company. She does need to be sent back from whereever she came from though.
People knew slavery was wrong before the 13th amendment became law. Unless your moral compass is so broken that it needs Congress to guide it. Besides this is article is precisely why borders need to be closely monitored. I'm not sure why people are cheering on for the slaveowner in the article.
You are absolutely right the preamble of the constitution says "We the people.." but you wanted to say "We the citizens..."
Go back to school to learn how to read and maybe you'll learn that everybody legal or illegal has right in America.
Too bad for her. Enter the country legally, and you'll be protected to the full extent of the law. It didn't bother her that she was taking jobs and food away from Americans, so why should this bother me? My family came in through Ellis Island, even got quarantined, but did it the right way. This is like the burglar who is not sad he stole, but is very, very sad he got caught.
What color is your skin, buddy? Think a green card is cheap? You think a person who can't feed their own kids can afford to get a citizenship? What a joke...they should have sent your family right back where they belonged, i.e. somewhere as un-American as you.
You are all a bunch of Sneetches. What difference does it make if you have a star on your belly or not?
"CNN welcomes a lively and courteous discussion as long as you follow the Rules of Conduct set forth in our Terms of Service. Comments are not pre-screened before they post. You agree that anything you post may be used, along with your name and profile picture, in accordance with our Privacy Policy and the license you have granted pursuant to our Terms of Service." SO WHY ARE THERE SO MANY INAPPROPRIATE COMMENTS ALLOWED? IS THERE NOT A TRANSLATOR IN THE HOUSE? OH WAIT, MAYBE THE SCREENING PROCESS TAKES 24 HOURS... SMH
We are one of the few LICENSED garment manufacturers in Fresno County. Walk into our building any time to see the conditions. We have to jump thru hoops every year to get our license renewed. HOWEVER, I do know that the STATE of CA does not care. Even when handed illegal operations on a silver platter, they will not go after them.
If she didn't come here illegally, or desired to step in to the US soil, we are not talking about this. They already know that they will come here illegally in the firdst place because that is the trend over there...to come here illegaly. Now, if she was slaved for 40 days, she should blame their goverment in Mexico to control this people who are hiring them and bringing them here without documents.
I am against Illegal immigration, but it is always good to put ourselves in other people's shoes. She just came here to lead a decent life. Most people outside the US seem to think that the life in US is very easy, but on the contrary, the life is very demanding for 95% of us. I really really hope things work out for her.
Ash, I agree with you 100%. I'm also against illegal immigration but we don't know the whole story here. It's possible the trafficker could have told her she was getting proper documentation to work in the US. She might not have known she was coming illegally. Even if she did know, no one deserves to be enslaved.
Lesson learned? I'm thinking that if you don't come to the US illegally, you will reduce the chances of being taken advantage of like this. Slimy criminals like the person who abused her only exist because of the illegal immigrant business. I feel sorry for her, but doing something illegal (like coming in this country the way she did) did her children NO good at all. Irresponsible mother. There are legal ways to get help, even from Mexico.
Like what? Seems to me Mexico can't be all that great a place if this is the alternative people are opting for. Easy to say for a well-off entitled American. Hopefully for you, the shoe will never be on the other foot.
Who cares about poor wetbacks.... next thing you know you'll be telling me that we should allow all the spearchuckers of africa to come here illegally. I mean they are pretty poor too.
What ever the details are behind the history of a victim of slavery may be, it is wrong to slave people. So someone that is slaving another person deserves to be punished heavily.
To attempt a justifiable lay of blame on the victim of slavery by ranting on about their legality of residence in the nation in witch they have been enslaved in is simply ridiculous narrow minded and lacks in any compassion at all. Perhaps one should take into consideration the circumstances that many people face in this world on the harshest of levels when it comes to living a good life and try to understand why someone would be so desperate in taking a chance such as becoming an illegal immigrant moving to an unfamiliar place without truly knowing what will become of themselves just for an attempt of a better life and how sad it is to think that after someone takes such a risky chance they end up a slave in the end.
my sympathies to this woman however that being said, i would gladly sell myself to slavery for 40 days for $3000 right about now.
She was told she OWED $3000 dollars. Not that she was paid $3000.
Dear Ipploit and every other ignorant cretin found on this page,
First and foremost, Flor did not consciously circumvent our immigration policies in order to undercut our system and benefit; she was a victim of human trafficking. The trafficker insidiously imported her as an investment plan for profit. The promise of a higher paying job, proper documentation, and the well-being of her Children after the loss of one already…. None of the above was delivered upon her arrival. In a healthy mind this would translate as: VICTIM- no one EVER “deserves” to be deceived; I suppose under the construct of capitalism one may hide under its veil of deceit, and continue to live in a very delusion one-dimensional world where ignorance is bliss… but hey, whatever floats your boat, right?
Secondly- This is a political issue discerning human rights, not a heated debate on immigration and/ or immigrants. Only the moronic digress, for their knowledge of the subject at hand insufficiently manifests into something irrelevant or inadequate- and boy does it show! Now globally, an estimated TWENTY-SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE are enslaved today; So this is not just another “sob story” people… Snap out of your little fantasies/ comfortable life and get with the program.
With hope regarding your intellect and sanity,
Your Wake up Call
Thank you . Exactly. She thought it was legit deal. Many ads purport to give work in foreign countries legitimately, but it is really slavery or sex trafficking. Especially in Europe, many girls think they're getting a job, and then end up as sex slaves.
I love the people blaming the woman. I hope and pray that someday you find yourself in a desperate situation and are exploited. Not only that, I sincerely wish that when you come forward people like your former self spit in your face. You're not fit to call yourselves Americans and it's doubtful you'll ever learn.
Man you are hateful. you are no better that the enslavers.
I do not have any sympathy for these women. The are here illegally so that everyone can get cheap clothes and food.
Really? Wow, you disgust me...
You sound like you're jealous because you can't find any illegals to be your slave.
Don't feed the trolls.. !
hum! and THIS is an example of the "peaceful" religion that WWE are supposed to believe is the example of ISLAM?........BS! We ar asked Daily to acept the Nation of ISLAM as a p eaceful religion. one NOT "hell bent" on destroying the American Way of Life fopr Suri law?...........lets not ever give up our way of life and ouor Constitution for The Nation of ISLAM! God Bless America! God Bless our Great country!
i feel bad as what she went through. but i do not feel sorry, as she came in this country ILLEGAL.
AND I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. i hate them.
You sound like a mean person for saying that. If you were in her place, not having enough to eat, child dying, etc, then I would ask you. Its easy for people who are living comfortably and not having to worry about the next meal as to what they would do in the same position...as we cannot even imagine this woman's situation.
We are NOT obligated to feed and cloth all of the poor of the world – especially when they slither over here just to take things provided by legal tax-paying citizens. Screw them. When there is not a single legal american that's starving, or poor, then we'll talk.
Despite this horrendous story and the horrendous comments here, I find solace in knowing that at least in the case of the latter, the people spewing their ignorance and inhumanity will never be anything more than text in a comments section on a blog, cowering behind their anonymity while they say things that they would never say in public to anyone, lest they get their well deserved backhand. Rant on, trolls.
she should be glad she has/had a job; there are so many people right now that can't even get hired to work at McDonalds.
Well obviously there's an opening, if you think it's such a great job then go do it. Or is it only people of certain nationalities (clearly not yours, right?) that should be thankful for those jobs.
Wow out of all the ignorant statements on this comment yours takes the cake. This woman was a SLAVE. She didn't make money, not even minimum wage. In fact, she was told she OWED money. Even working for free at an unpaid internship or as a volunteer is better than this because you get to go home, eat actual meals, sleep in a bed, etc. You're a moron.
It's disgusting how these traffickers exploit people's desperation. At the same time this woman and the father of her children should not have had the four children they clearly couldn't provide for in the first place.
Due to lack of conceptual penetration, this shall be reposted:
To every ignorant cretin found on this page,
First and foremost, Flor did not consciously circumvent our immigration policies in order to undercut our system and benefit; she was a victim of human trafficking. The trafficker insidiously imported her as an investment plan for profit. The promise of a higher paying job, proper documentation, and the well-being of her Children after the loss of one already…. None of the above was delivered upon her arrival. She was held against her will, not given the opportunity of a life time. In a healthy mind this would translate as: VICTIM- no one EVER “deserves” to be deceived; I suppose under the construct of capitalism one may hide under its veil of deceit, and continue to live in a very delusion one-dimensional world where ignorance is bliss… but hey, whatever floats your boat, right?
Secondly- This is a political issue discerning human rights, not a heated debate on immigration and/ or immigrants. Only the moronic digress, for their knowledge of the subject at hand insufficiently manifests into something irrelevant or inadequate- and boy does it show! Now globally, an estimated TWENTY-SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE are enslaved today; So this is not just another “sob story” people… Snap out of your little fantasies/ comfortable life and get with the program.
With hope regarding your intellect and sanity,
Your Wake up Call
It's like paying less then $10 to international students at Austraila and force them to work hard. Thanks to 20 hours work restriction.Many employers are talking advantage of this. Many international students are like a slave here. Education sector is the third largest economy of Australia contributing more then 7 billion dollar. If Australian government knows how to take then they also need to learn how to give. REMOVE 20 HOURS WORK RESTRICTION.
Good work CNN and CAST. Arrest slave traders/owners, not the slaves.
Slavers should get the death penalty w/ no parole and no life sentences.. that will stop them! Fine the stores that buy the products 1 million dollars for each slave, paid to the enslaved person. That'll dry up the demand..
If you hate the woman in this article you must be a very hate-filled and angry person. Why is that? Was there a lot of violence in your childhood? Something must have happened in your life to make you that way, because decent humans could never hate this woman. Let go of your anger and hate, forgive those that have wronged you, and forgive yourself for your own weakness.
Don't let racist propaganda brainwash and control you. You owe yourself more than that. You will have a better and happier life if you stop hating everything.
I'm serious, I have sympathy for racists, because they are wasting their one life looking for the bad in everyone rather than looking for the good in everyone.
First of all, many of you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills. This woman is NOT a prostitute. She was enslaved by an employer in the United States of America, whom, like many other employers in this country benefit from illegal labor. If there were no jobs, people wouldn't risk their lives to come here legally, or otherwise.
Second: Tim, Beth, iiploit, etc., I don't know where you get your facts from, but as a social worker for the past 15 Years, I can tell you that there are absolutely NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS RECEIVING SOCIAL SERVICE BENEFITS in this country. You MUST be a US Citizen to receive these benefits. Period.
If you must know, the number one ethnicity to receive social service benefits are Caucasions. So look in the mirror.
Furthermore, if you truly believe that this woman deserved this treatment for "breaking the law" and wanting a better life, then take a look at your ancestors and the crimes they committed when they came here wanting the very same thing. I hardly think you can ever even begin to compare the two.
Oh, and Beth? To equate terrorism with this situation has to be one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. I wish we could identify your mentality from a mile away and keep it there.
Please educate yourselves before opening the window to your mind for all to see. It is not a pretty sight.
spoken as a true "latino"!
I am sorry to tell you that your information is not correct. I have associates that are illegal immigrants, and yes, they do get welfare, food stamps, etc... Because their children were born here. I was at the store while they were buying groceries with their food stamps. She wanted to buy a magazine, so she whipped out this roll of money (several hundred dollars) to pay for it. Her "husband" works at the local meat processing plant and makes good money, but she lists herself as "single" to get more benefits from the government.
Kids of illegals SHOULD be used for slave labor. They should become wards of the state, and their parents should be shipped on the first bus back to enchiladaville.
Please Sandra, tell me where you get your facts from, especially the one where caucasian people receive the most social services. It's the caucasian people in this country that pay for everything and made to feel guilty and pay out to every indiscretion every race has ever received.
Flor was not a slave Sandra. Just because a person puts their self in a position to be taken advantage of, does not make them a slave. I believe the trafficker/employer is not even American. Flor never would have trusted them if they were not Latino/a.
I agree, this country does need to shut off the jobs to illegals and throw the employers in jail. The fines and prison times need to be so costly as to not make hiring illegal employees attractive.
As for the Social Service Bennies... well you are wrong again. The first things illegals do is find a friend or distant family member that lives here to give them a place to stay and help them find their first job (Flor's trafficker did this), next they sign them up for any social services that they can (usually by using a stolen S.S.# or an American's stolen ID) Every time an American goes into any business where they have to give their social security #, Photo ID, and/or credit cards/bank acct #'s (like check-in at a hosp or bank) The American is a possible victim of ID theft.
Americans that are most likely to be victimized are legal Latino/a Americans. People with a Spanish sounding name. This is all to support the illegals flooding across the border. (Be weary of the nationality of the person taking your information and who else may have access to it. It often goes to third party companies that hire foreign workers) The people being hurt the most by illegal immigration are legal citizens of their own nationality. All Americans pay the price though because of high costs to businesses that do not get paid when the ID theft comes to light but the product/service has already been rendered. The losses to banks and credit card companies is tremendous.
The system is so lacks at this point that illegals even get college funding where legal citizens are told they do not qualify.
Food banks, clothing pantries, and section 8 housing make most of the illegals I know and have worked with believe that everything in America is "Free". I have been told this on more than one occasion by illegals. You see Sandra, if you want to throw creds around; I'm a real Victims Advocate. I've had more sociology and law classes than your social service degree requires and I'm in court with all sorts of victims every week. I also live and work in a very latino community and I am part Latina.
You speak about caucasians & blacks on public services. This does happen, but you forget that the system was set-up and paid for by caucasians, blacks, legal Latinos, legal Asians, legal etc, etc, etc.... for the purpose and use of legal AMERICAN CITIZENS & foreigners that are living and working here LEGALLY.
Did Flor deserve to be treated badly? No she did not! Take a closer look however at who really victimized her.
AMERICANS ARE DONE WITH THE BLAME GAME and the Sympathetic "look at what your ancestors did" Bull $h*t. Look at what your own did Hombre... how far would you like to go back, for a history lesson? This was another one of my best subjects in college too.
This is exactly why we need to require e-Verify for all employers and prison time for employers that hire illegal immigrants. There would still be a fairly large number of work permits needed, but immigrants here legally on work permits would be ablle to stand up to abusive situations like this. Also, it would cut off the income source to human traffickers that are often part of Mexican gangs. If the human trafficker that brought her in is a gang member, slavery may not be the worst thing that happens to her.
P.s. don't ask what religion has to do with this. Religion was used as justification for the violence that ensued throughout the establishment and development of this country. Remember Manifest Destiny?
Funny how God is only allowed to be mentioned in self-serving movements of hipocrisy.
India is the King of Slavery.
I just think all American workers are some sort of slaves. When an american company makes 1 billion profit (and this is a small company, looking at American standard), how much did the company spend in wages ? Maybe just 100 million (10 times less). Exploiting is not about how much they pay you, but what portion of the overall benefit the boss (Master) returns to you, slave – worker. Masters will always be masters, and workers will always be slaves. This is the system YOU americans are trying to impose to the whole word. And whatever the Master doesn't pay for, the Government will take in charge and name it social security, education grant, any kind of new grant / allowance they will invent just to keep the system working : masters remaining masters and slaves remaining slaves. Just think this over.
Is it just me or does the media seem to be targeting subjects to make us more sympathetic to the people involved in Lybia and now illegal immigrants from Mexico. I can't help but to think that our media is trying so hard to change our minds on what we think about illegals and Lybia. This story by far is no where as horrific as to what happens in country everyday and yet an illegal working sewing is the best they can do. Also, why doesn't our media report the brutality happening in Mexico, seems like it would then become an issue our country would have to address; after all that is our neighboring country going to hell in a hand basket.
If she had tried to enter legally with integrity, none of that would have happened.
How about how sleezy the Americans are for taking people in and enslaving them just as they did 200 years ago? What gives them the right to do this? If you are all going to complain about "illegals" coming here and "taking your jobs" then don't take them in. They work harder than any of you probably do and work in the fields that you people look down on. Why? Do do what we all do; support themselves and their families. These people are being taken advantage of and it needs to end now. If you are going to complain about how they need to go through the legal process, then I suggest you talk to someone that has. I know plenty of people who have been turned away who tried to go through it. Then maybe you'll realize that its not as easy as you think. They can't just "start the process". There's so much more to it.
Who said it's AMERICANS enslaving this woman. It's likely that the traffickers were Latinos, probably other Mexicans, and that the owner of the sweat shops are immigrants.
Well, we can't all get what we want now can we? You don't think that everybody should become a citizen of the US do you? They were taken advantage of??? I am sure of one thing, they know for sure that it is ILLEGAL to come into this country without papers, and if they have sense enough knowing that, then they have sense enough to know that they entrust their lives with people called "COYOTES" which are absolute strangers as well. Please spare us all the talk of their being taken advantage of. Also, as for people in this country not willing to do what these people do illegally by working the fields, we don't mind that they do as long as they do it legally and pay taxes.
How about sending her back to her country of origin. Her plight is heartbreaking, but she has no business living in this country as an illegal.
HEY, Am I supposed to belive that this woman wrote this speech ?
I didn't realize it was the American way to take people in need and abuse them.
Very well said, these "Americans" are willing to torture people and be happy about it because they don't have a freaking seal in their passport? shame on America for killing and exploiting innocent people that all they do is work to survive, thank you so call Americans!
"...so when my sewing teacher told me about the opportunity to go to the U.S., I was definitely interested."
But not interested enough to do your homework first. This is a story about making stupid decisions – not "slavery."
You stupid privileged American. You don't deserve to have your freedom. You think just because you have the internet and iphones and all the resources in the world you can look down your nose at other peoples decisions and judge.
lol sma, I GUARANTEE you are some Mexican whose family came here illegally. I'd put money on it.
You look like an idiot defending idiotic decisions. Just stop you moron.
There's a saying, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Or do Mexicans lack common sense as well as the internet? This woman was apparently smuggled into this country. That should have been a clue to her that this "job" was not on the up and up. Of course, in the developing countries I've been in, cell phones are big, there are networks of people one knows overseas that you can check with, and there is also public internet access.
By your own statement you are making judgments. Most feel very sad and sorry for this woman. She needs to be treated kindly, provide counseling and then returned back home to her family. She should not be punished or treated harshly. Those that took advantage of her should be captured and tried for their actions.
keep killing and exploiting illegal immigrants America, that's what you do best!!
If it were up to me, I'd string up some illegals and have them stoned to death. Now THAT'S a policy that would achieve the desired result – getting these things out of our country.
Hey Sproles,
It doesn't matter what my ethnicity is. I'm not the one that thinks its OK to exploit people and abuse others. No ethnicity, religion, or group of people deserve that no matter what their situation is. I am an American and am ashamed of how you are all acting. Just because you were born with freedom and privileges doesn't mean you have to abuse others that don't.
This is funny because...everyone is a slave to the "system." When you zoom out and look at the bigger picture, we are no different than worker ants.
Just coming here for a "better life" LOL
Just doin' the work Americans won't do. LOL
This is EXACTLY what you get when you come here illegally. Welcome aboard. Now go back and sign the guest book and take your illegal kids with you
Seriously, who could really care about this story. If I was in her country ILLEGALLY, I would be in jail - which is a WHOLE LOT worse than making dresses in someone's basement.
She should kiss the guy's feet she's working for - think of the terrific life she had living in a cardboard box in the s-hole for a country called Mejico. California deserves these people.
Lot of luck Maria or Rosie - whatever your name is. No one told you to jump the fence and COME HERE ILLEGALLY. Go back home.
Thanks for keeping my prices low honey
Only 40 days????? We've been enslaved with you gringos here ILLEGALLY for 30 years. Deal with it.
Folks, let's look at the facts here. Illegals come to the US and risk being taken advantage of. OK, that's an issue I won't dispute. But they also intend to come here and bleed us dry with every intention of working the system. They don't come here to make America a better place. They come here to take everything they can from America. Slavery is wrong, but as I read most of your posts you seem to ignore the real problem here. Can't you see that illegal imigration is the root cause of this problem? Look past the trees and you'll see a forest!
She is a self-confessed illegal alien. That's a criminal act. Sorry her baby died but she was in a Western Nation already and need not have run to the United States out of greed. She did not have to leave her family behind. She knowingly did that.
And I should feel sorry for this illegal WHY?? We have one in the White House go sew there. Start on the Northern board and push them all back to Mexico state by state. Watch our health care drop in price. But noooooooooo
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Slavery ended with the civil war. Legal entry or not. Only someone with no soul would want to treat another human in this manner.
While I feel for the woman enslaved. She like others are just trying to get by in this world we need to have better laws against the people who hire illegals the sentence in this story was 6 months probation. big deal that wont stop anyone from doing it again. stop the people from hiring and illegals wont come for the jobs.
Take a good look. This is the face of the Republican paradise. No longer are they content to use slave labor overseas now the slaves are being imported into America. If you think the assaults on worker's rights in Michigan & Ohio don't mean anything to you or your children you need to take a good look & think again.
There is no comparison or link between the two. This is a very poorly constructed cheap shot at the republicans.
Sigh, reading these comments I feel the need to point something out. There have been many trafficking cases where the slaves were told they were having legitimate jobs lined up for them for a fee. While it does not say whether or not it is the case with this woman that does happen. Some of these slaves are duped into thinking they are being given a legal path into the country. (I am not sure but I recall seeing something a year or so ago about a company that was actually getting them temporary visas and then with holding the papers until they "paid off" their debt. Using the threat of not having their visa renewed to keep them in line.)
Yes, "undocumented workers" are law breakers, but they are also victims. The traffickers are worse though not only do they break laws pertaining to slavery, but they encourage people to come to the country illegally. There is no reason to blame the victims in these cases. We do need to nail the traffickers for a lot more then 6 months though.
The same is true with the employers. They need to be given harsh punishments if convicted.
So, by your line of reasoning, convicted murders are victims because they are caught up in the horrors of prison life. Give me a break...
I do feel sorry for this woman, no one deserves to be enslaved anywhere at any time. Isn't this why the country is using the phrase "illegal immigrant"? Isn't it because they didn't come here the "legal" way? You can't tell me, for as long as this has been going on, that they have no clue that things like this could happen if you come in the illegal way. I'm sure somewhere down the line someone has told people in that country that coming to America is not all "sunshine and lollipops". It angers me to my very core that these people want to come to America, NOT PAY TAXES on their wages, and get many benefits from the leaders of this country. WHY AM I PAYING FOR YOUR WELFARE, HEALTHCARE, ETC?!?! How is that fair?!?! I have friends that came to this country legally who are very upset by people who do things illegally. They say they worked so hard and had to do so much to be an upstanding citizen of this country and the fact that people just get to sneak into the country is not right. Something needs to be done. I hate to be this way, but if it is so bad here, why don't you just go back home?
no human being should be treated in such a hideous manner.
human greed is our downfall and the day of reckoning is fast approaching
Kate
Bet all you people who blame the victim pride yourselves on being good Christians, don't you? Why don't you try having some compassion? The same people who think America's God's own country are always so willing to attack others who want to come here because they too think it's better than where they are. Very Christ-like to blame the victim who only wanted to be free and safe.
BTW, it really is about time all these people who are so righteous about who's "legal" and who's not face the fact that ANY illegal alien has already done more than you ever did to earn American citizenship. All you did was get born in the right place. You weren't righteous, you were just plain lucky. Why not admit that, and admit that you never hung on the side of a train, or crossed a river or hid in a container to get here. They put life-changing effort in to getting what you got for FREE. Be a person and show some humility and some graciousness for once in your sheltered, easy life.
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Kate, lying and cheating to get a "better life" does not entitle you to it, or make you an American. We're lucky we're born here BECAUSE OUR IMMIGRANT ANCESTORS bothered to do it right and believed that following the law mattered. Our immigrant ancestors fought hard to prevent sweat shops and the like which illegal aliens have helped to enjoy a resurgence. I remember in high school seeing a news film from the 1930s of workers being beaten as they walked picket lines and tried to organize unions. Our ancestors taxed themselves to provide "free" education and public services that we all enjoy, including illegal aliens. So, yes, we're "lucky" that we had ancestors who worked hard so that we don't have to work as hard. You might note also that Mexico is one of the richest countries in the world and home to the world's richest man. Apparently, this woman didn't care enough about her own country to try to make a better life for herself there by doing what my ancestors did here. Or what Arabs in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, etc., are trying to do THERE.
In the article it say she had 3 kids, one passed away (3-1 =2) and then says she has to take care of three kids.... typo???? proof read cnn please
And note she's sooooo poor, yet she keeps popping out kid after kid. Then, she slithers over here when she thinks she can get a sniff of the "good life."
It seems interesting that this illegal immigrant AKA CRIMINAL is portraying herself as the victim. To make matters worse...there is a nonprofit organization ready and willing to support this criminal after she enters this country illegally and then points teh finger at those who helped her with her criminal act because she does not want to repay her debt for that criminal act.
California is sinking fast. Soon we will have 49 states and California will be annexed into Mexico.
What is she complaining about....it's still better that being in Cuidad Juarez getting your head cut off by drug dealers! I'm just curious, did she actually say that entire article herself or is it a translated transcript???
keep killing and exploiting illegal immigrants America, that's what you do best right?
What is she complaining about....it's still better that being in Cuidad Juarez getting your head cut off by drug dealers! I'm just curious, did she actually say that entire article herself or is it a translated transcript???
There are many forces at work here. This woman was lured here by a human trafficer who had plenty of help from the U.S. Government, who refuses to enfore our immigration laws. This administration refuses to stop the city of Los Angeles from breaking Federal Law every single day as they operate as "a sanctuary city" or free zone for illegals to come to that city, use the resources there, and work as cheap labor and pay no taxes. This cheap labor is favored in the garment industry especially because the unions have made the industry totally uncompetitive on the world stage and forced hundreds of thousands of jobs overseas, where workers are also exploited. Until our government enforces the very laws that they made, the U.S. will continue to operate as a thrid world country when it comes to our labor force.
and by the way, why does CNN headline this story from nine years ago, but reports NOTHING about the two Americans just shot to death at the U.S.-Mexican border?
This article represents another reason to enforce the immigration and deportation laws already in place. Then, women like this one won't be subjected to these type of conditions. If there were no illegals here, there wouldn't be this type of crime and suffering.
This is not slavery. This is called bond servitude. And, I'm shocked and amazed that there'd be corruption involved with illegal activities.
She has broken a law by being in this country. If you want to stop the people from being used as she was then only hire a citizen or a person that followed our laws in the first place. I feel for her but we can not let people just cross our borders and not be legal. I also see some trying to compare the Europeans arriving 100's of years ago to this. Most of them were processed and either allowed to enter the country or not. There is nothing wrong with sorting out the ones like her that want to work and obey the laws, but hey must respect our laws. We need to sort out the thugs, drug runners and gang members. We have a Work Visa program use it.
There is no excuse for slavery, you must be sick in your head, stick your visa papers up yours
So how would I get treated if I was smuggled into another country to work?
You would be thrown in a very substandard jail and maybe deported at some point if you are luck. You might also go on trial as a spy or become a kidnapping victim for ransom from your family. (All Americans are thought to have millions of $'s in third world countries.)
Did the FBI arrest the factory owner for hiring illegal labor?
Guess not. I'm assuming the story is true. May be CNN should follow up. Or is that too much work?
NO SYMPATHY HERE!!! She was an illegal.
So let me get this straight. This young woman pays money to a criminal (The trafficer), to enter another country illegally, and then she is treated in a despicable, illegal manner, by criminals, and she is surprised by this? This shows the two main reasons why we should stop people from crossing our borders illegally. First, those crossing the border are being exploited. Second, as we see from this young woman, we are NOT getting the smart ones!
This is the most depressing comment section I've read in a long time. There's so much hatred! Don't judge these people for coming into a country. Leaving their friends and family is low on their priority list, but they are desperate. Then she's approached by a trafficker who promises her she can help support her family. Trafficking is a disgusting crime...true sociopaths.
But almost equally as sick are you people who say she deserved it. I wish you could walk in the shoes of a poor Mexican woman with kids to support for one day.
Of course we feel sorry for her. But stories like hers has been around for a long time. This is one of the best reasons to come to the US legally. Preditors wait at the border for women like her. They all know in Mexico the chances they take. No wasn't right and whoever owns the factory should be fined, but again, they know the risks they take. Come to the US legally and prosper, try to sneak in and someone will take advantage and why should that be our fault.
The Arab people are setting the example for the Mexicans. They need to revolt against their corrupt government and the cartels. There is power in numbers and they have the numbers.
Well kind of ironic the illegal is complaining about working in an illegal business. Guess that's what you get for being an illegal. Hopefully now though, she can get deported back to wherever it is she is originally from and she won't have to endure the horrible US illegal job she was forced into.
Do I feel sorry for her? Not one bit, she know what she was doing and took the risk to break the law.
What is some peoples' problem here? This is not about illegal immigration. Instead, it's about people being tricked into slavery. It might not have been mentioned in this article, but many of those traffickers promise their victims that they will help them get legal citizenship in the US. They say it's all taken care of. So, it's not like the person is coming to the country to willfully be an illegal immigrant. It is the trafficker who is deceiving them and then treating them like less than human beings. But according to some peoples' opinions here, they are perfectly fine with people being treated worse than animals because they happen to be born someplace else. Somehow they think it's justifiable or right for people facing poverty in other countries to be duped into slavery. That is just sick! What matters most is that woman was mistreated, justice was not really served, and she is speaking out to make sure it is served. No matter what, she is still soembody's daughter, somebody's sister, and somebody's mother. So, get off your high hoses!
Well perhaps these people shouldn't try to sneak into the US. This is a perfect example of why they should come here legally. People take advantage of those who want to come to the US without the proper paperwork. Stores like hers has been around for a long time, you would think they would learn by now.
GOP health care plan: Create slaves out of the Old and Sick people. Then whip the Old and Sick people until they are young and healthy. Or until they die. Then turn them into Soylent Green.
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I noticed there was never a mention of punishment for the people running the factory she was working at. Obviously, they knew about her situation if she was being forced to sleep there. We need to start treating companies/individuals who hire illegals like drug dealers. No slap on the wrist fines, no corporate protections for the individuals running the place, give them automatic jail time for the first offense.
So today I am here with you to congratulate you to join our fight to end slavery. We need to find a way to get to the root of the problem – the demand for all products tainted with slave labor. The companies who brought these garments could have stopped me and others from being slaves, if they had made an effort.
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No, the root of the problem is illegal immigration, and people who, like you, believe that "better lives" lie in coming to the US illegally rather than working to make your own countries better. That's particularly the case in Mexico, which is a welathy country. Take yourself back there and tell your story.
Modern day slavery should include, private sector employees who works like slaves, to pay off his housing and car loans for decades, whether he likes it or not. He is left with no options left, if he leaves he will loose his house, and will come to the streets. So, who is to be blamed, of course the employee, and then again, the Banks, who encourages employees to go for the loans, though they know, 25 yrs of repayment period is too long. The bank HSBC says, don't say why but say why not for a loan.
They should have been shooting the ba$tards at the border 20 years ago. Then they wouldn't have to worry about being 'slaves'.
We have to remember that we Americans were gifted with education. Unfortunately, there are a lot of stupid people out there who don't know that if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is. She probably didn't even know that her situation was immoral until her coworker told her there was hope (proven by the fact that she was too scared to walk out the door on her own). It's a tricky situation, but let's be sympathic to those who didn't have the public school system we had.
What happened to this woman is sad. I don't think she thought that she was entering the US illegally when she believed the lies that she was told. Someone took advantage of her. However, we are all slaves of the collusion between government and Big Business. When is CNN going to support us in our plight? Or do they only have sympathy for outsiders? As far as liberal CNN and the Democrats are concerned, freedom and civil liberty FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE are dead issues. The Democrats used to support civil liberty, but now they don't even talk about it or about freedom and how we Americans are losing the rights specified in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Republicans talk about freedom, but the only freedom they believe in is the freedom of the rich to make more money and the freedom of the rest of us to work like dogs so that the rich can have their profits. The US is going downhill fast, but most in government and Big Business don't care because they are the ones driving us there. All because of the love of money and power.
A sad story no doubt (but isn't this the real reason for the story?). The real sad truth is that if she wasn't in this country illegally, she would not have placed herself in a position to be exploited. She made the choice to come here without proper documents, her situation is a result of HER decision. Can you say personal responsibility and accountability? No, I didn't think so. BTW, does 'Fior' really exist? As a US citizen, my only concern is to see to it that she is returned to her country safely, doesn't come back illegally, and is no longer a drain on my country's resources. Oh I've lived in a foreign country legally, learned the language and assimiliated. This is what I expect and demand of foreigners coming into my country also.
You miss the point....she thought it was a legitimate deal.
I'll tell you what is really funny, some of you who feel sorry for the illegals. Well here is a little story that happened over the weekend. My daughter was visiting a friend when the bell rang. A gentleman standing at the door said he had just backed up into her car. He begged her not to all the police. She had to or there would be no record and how would she get her car fixed. Yeah, ends up the man who hit her is an illegal, working for AT&T without a drivers license! The police arrest him, and we find out he has been arrested for driving without a license at least 3 times, under 3 different names, gave false information and he's illegal! They let him out on an I-bond! Believe me if it happened to you or me we would not of gotten out on a i-bond! Keep feeling sorry for the illegals, because it's the Americans getting screwed!
Why wasn't INS involved. He should have been deported and his employer heavily fined.
Sorry for your daughter, because she will never receive one penny from this guy toward her damages. Hope she has insurance that covers the costs. I'm honestly surprised that he even stopped to tell you that he damaged the vehicle, but then he had nothing to loss. He knew there would be no consequences for his actions and he will continue to do just what he has been doing. Driving w/o a license and insurance, illegally working in the US, and now he has an i-bond that gives him the legal right to be in the United States so he can appear in court. American are being screwed and our gov't and injustice system is complicit.
I'm going to stay away from the immigration side of this debate and point something else out. The woman in the photo looks fairly young, and this incident happened to her 10 years ago. At the time she had 4 children counting the one who died. People really need to get educated on birth control and stop having kids they cant afford. Get your life started first then have your kids, if you can afford them.
EXACTLY SAM!!!! where is the father/s for these kids, this woman knows how to have sex but clearly does not have control of her self. How does a someone who is struggling to take care of 2 kids gives birth to another two.
That level of common sense you learn at age 10....
So please, she is downright irresponsible.
I feel so bad for the lady. But the thing is that she knew she was running risks and well there are rules that if you brake you have to pay. I can only imagine how much she went through but thats was her decision and her mistake... its upsetting to see how bad Mexico is getting and how people would risk it all including there life to have a better tomorrow for them and there family. Unfortunately you run the risk of being kidnapped, killed, abused.... so people PLEASE think of it twice before coming to U.S.... GOD BLESS US ALL.
Wow. Blame the victim. How Godly of you.
I hope God doesn't bless you you are a monster
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Who are the retailers who employ slave labor? The public has a right to know! Not one retailer was mentioned in any of these stories.
This is a very sad story. She was fooled into coming to this country illegally and should be shown some pity and mercy. After a reasonable period of time and after some counseling, she should be returned to Mexico to live again with her family. Those involved in trafficing should be punished and the business owner harshly punished.
Don't expect me to feel bad about the Mexican War. Mexico was dysfunctional then, and it is now. It's always been dysfunctional. At least the US brought some order and governance to the territories it took, which seems to be more than Mexico ever did. Hurray for James K. Polk!
So don't become an illegal immigrant and stay in your own country.
keep justifying slavery and soon you will have it at your door, your daughter can be kidnapped and force to this and I will laugh when that happends
Why do people keep coming here? Well... we exploited their countries for their minerals, timber, precious metals and other raw materials and left them bankrupted and poor. Or... the US took parts of their land (New Mexico, Arizona, California was once part of Mexico – so you see we already invaded them).
So... maybe they are coming here to get their stuff back? Or to travel on their ancestral lands?
Unless you are 100% native heritage I don't think you get to talk about "here" as anything other than a shared land, stolen from its original stewards.
Am i missing something? The lady thought it was a legit deal to sew. If she was trying to enter the country deceitfully, that's something else. Another thing is that rich corporations have been ever ripping off illegals to pick apples etc for decades, and rich people have been using poor immigrants or illegals to do maid and other menial services. Either way, America thrives on taking advantage of the poor, to enjoy their own lives. It's the same with chocolate, derived from cocoa beans ( the beans are produced from child slavery), precious metals (raping poor countries) , Brand name garment industry eg Nike and Tommy Hilfiger (sweat shops), even your own American farmers get ripped off with corporate contracts designed to keep people in debt (slavery). So enough with the hypocrisy. America takes from the poor, so that she can enjoy her riches.
My, oh, my! Some people are so quick to leap to conclusions! Regardless of her motivations or awareness of the law, we simply don't know enough details based on the actual text of the story to assume that she was willingly crossing the border illegally. Given only the information printed in the story, it's not wise or intelligent to make judgments about her motivations or knowledge of the law. If the person who brought Ms. Molina to this country was indeed a slave trafficker, isn't it possible that they may have actually tricked her into thinking the opportunity to work in the states was a legitimate program? Could it be that she was duped by a criminal into unwittingly committing a crime? There's no reason to leap to the immediate conclusion that she brought this on herself by willfully breaking United States law.
Moreover, regardless of the circumstances that led to Ms. Molina's plight, this story is not about the illegal immigration debate, it's about human trafficking and slavery in the manufacturing supply chain. Turning this story into an argument about immigration is nothing more than a fallacious misdirect, and will not help anyone in any constructive way.
Oops! I replied to the wrong thread!
You must be joking. This is ALL about illegal imigration. If she hadn't been here illegally she wouldn't have been in that situation. How many taxes do you think she paid?
Then go back to Mexico where you belong. Don't come to the US illegally and then complain, sweatshop or not, it must have been better than where you were living IN MEXICO.
She thought it was a legit deal. If HOWEVER, she did knowingly come as an illegal, that's different. Many ads purport to give work in foreign countries legitimately, but it is really slavery or sex trafficking. Please get a little knowledgeable!
Kim – if you believe that she "thought she was legal" then I have some great real estate that you might be interested in buying. If she if fact did believe that she was legal, then she's an idiot. Either way, America looses. We have illegals or we have more stupid people. We are rapidly becoming a 3rd world nation with nukes – thanks to the abundance of such stupidity.
Well this lady is clearly in Los Angeles illegally – but who isn't? The city is overrun with illegal aliens – just look at the day workers on every street corner. The fact is that people who come to the US illegally have no protection by the laws that were enacted here to keep these atrocities from occurring. The law is a protection to the legal and it is feared by the law breakers. So -- the solution is not to make more laws that people can break but to enforce the laws on the books!
Go back where you came from and this wouldn't be a problem for you. You will get no sympathy from me. I'm paying for your medical expenses, your food, your kids school, and on and on. You won't get a shoulder to cry on here!
You are really clueless. She thought it was a legit deal. If HOWEVER, she did knowingly come as an illegal, that's different. Many ads purport to give work in foreign countries legitimately, but it is really slavery or sex trafficking. Please get a little knowledgeable!
you are a monster serial killer like all of you Americans, no respect for life!
GeorgeK – why should the United States or the state of CA protect someone who is breaking the LAW? Are you serious? 'The fact that people who come to the US illegally have no protection by the laws that .....' That's a crazy statement.
Maybe because they are human beings, think about it, and think how many illegal things you do or did in your life, would you deserve this treatment, no , no one does, not even illegal immigrants dear
all of you people are fucked up in the mind...seriously lol
I agree, read how they justify slavery, I'm disgusted, I'm leaving, this is awful.
You miss the point completely. She thought it was a legit deal. If HOWEVER, she did knowingly come as an illegal, that's different. Many ads purport to give work in foreign countries legitimately, but it is really slavery or sex trafficking. Please get a little knowledgeable!
Kim, follow your own advice! Get a little knowledge. Read the Constitution, 13th amendment. There is no mention of legal or illegal immigration. Then research involuntary servitude. By your reasoning, if I find an illegal immigrant who knowingly crossed the border illegally, I have the legal right to enslave them. By the Constitution and legal precedent, I do not.
50million Hispanics live in the USA. They are over running our system. Doesnt matter what system I'm talking about because it all of them and now you want me to feel bad for someone who is trying to do some more of the same. Not me, not here. I'm over it, for the 1st time in my life I dont care about their struggle, hardships nothing. I dont care. I care about me and mine. I want my kids to have the very same benefits I have had as a kid and onward to adult hood. But thats not going to be available do to this overwhelming influx of these wet backs. The crimes that come along with them are unspeakable. 3rd world people do 3rd world types of crimes. Dismemberment, kidnappings, drug smuggling, human smuggling, sex trade. Look at Phoenix Arizona, 2nd in the world in kidnapping. 100% Mexican/south of the boarder. Do I feel bad for this woman? Alittle. I feel worse for my people right here needing the work she was looking for here.
Give the great state of CA back to Mexico, who cares, it's a cess pool. Close off all boards and watch them kill, loot, and mame each other and then tell me the US is problem. You people claiming this poor woman was taken advantage of need to get thrown right into the middle of Mexico. Get out of the country you hate so much. PLEASE
You must not be very bright. What th h@ll are u talking about? This is not an immigration issue. The lady was deceived into thinking it was a legitimate job. In Europe, Asia, heck, everywhere, many ads or people purport to give work to unsuspecting desperate people in other foreign countries , but it is really slavery or sex trafficking. Don't you know anything?
I do feel sorry for this woman who is looking for a better life for her and family. No one forced this woman to enter into the US illegally. She knew what she was doing, she has heard the stories... she clearly knows what can happen and still she took a chance.
I am not a racist, but this is a pathetic excuse to live in the US. Why could she have not moved to another city in Mexico where there are better opportunities?
My point is "NO ONE FORCED HER".
Josh
Exactly. It's sad, yes, that she lost a child b/c of lack of funds so she decides to come here where they know they will get everything for free in terms of healthcare while the American taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah sure, that's a better life. How would they feel, what would they do if our immigration policies were as strict as Mexico's? Hmmm
That's the point moron they did force her and your family could be next
Yea! She deserves to be enslaved! How dare she want a better life for herself and her family. These stupid poor people in other countries, they need to just stay where they are and not mess up our country with their Spanish language and poverty. That's what you mean, really isn't it? No? You're not a racist? Then why in the world would it bother you and why wouldn't you find an ounce of compassion for someone who has less than you?
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You guys are freaking arrogant and morons. Do you think Mexicans come to this country because they love American and have a desire to be Americans?? No, they come here to make money and support their families. Blaming the illegal aliens is not going to solve anything. Get off your high horse and realize that as Americans we are freaking lazy and exploit every single third world country out there. How do we exploit them you ask?? Well, we kidnap Mexican women and force them to work 18 hours a day making stupid dresses for legal American prostitutes (like Charlie Sheen’s woman). We blame the Mexicans for bringing in the drugs (same drugs Charlie Sheen is sniffing). Then we bomb Libya – why?? Well why let all that oil go to waste. Oh and then we go to the Ivory Coast and stop the killing of hundreds of Africans…oh wait, we didn’t. No oil there….oops. Ok, Mexicans are illegal aliens that Americans don’t want and we are just perfect Americans.
We should just shoot illegals trying to slither into our country. Case closed.
(I posted this comment on the wrong thread originally, so I'm saying it again)
My, oh, my! Some people are so quick to leap to conclusions! Regardless of her motivations or awareness of the law, we simply don't know enough details based on the actual text of the story to assume that she was willingly crossing the border illegally. Given only the information printed in the story, it's not wise or intelligent to make judgments about her motivations or knowledge of the law. If the person who brought Ms. Molina to this country was indeed a slave trafficker, isn't it possible that they may have actually tricked her into thinking the opportunity to work in the states was a legitimate program? Could it be that she was duped by a criminal into unwittingly committing a crime? There's no reason to leap to the immediate conclusion that she brought this on herself by willfully breaking United States law.
Moreover, regardless of the circumstances that led to Ms. Molina's plight, this story is not about the illegal immigration debate, it's about human trafficking and slavery in the manufacturing supply chain. Turning this story into an argument about immigration is nothing more than a fallacious misdirect, and will not help anyone in any constructive way.
Well said.
I do believe people need to stop sneaking into the US in general but these people are taken advantage of toevery degree. It's not like they are targeting educated people who may have a better sense in judgement, they target poor illegals to do their bidding knowing they are easy to target. And for those who can sit there are say you may not feel bad for her is BS. If that was your mother trying to put food in your mouth as she took every oppertunity she could to make sure you were fed would you still not feel bad for her just because she crossed a border? Would you be ashamed? I doubt it. Don't forget majority of these illegals are the ones who keeps your garden freshly cut and clean, the ones buttering your bagels at the deli's, and removing your plate away from the dinner table at a resturant so on and so forth. Yeah they may not belong her legally but they are still trying for their families and for themselves..
Two wrongs do not make one right: do not enter any country illegally.
Although I feel for the lady, it sounds like a horrid experience, why in the world would you think that someone that is going to help you do something illegal is going to be on the up and up
I guess when your desperate, no job, no food, dying children...you don't really think things through too well. Breaking a law like crossing the border is worth the risk for these people. You want to stop it? Then target those who hire them and help to improve economic relations with our Neighbors. Why we think that having neighbors with unstable governments and economies is good, is beyond me.
This is not an issue of immigration, but an issue of human exploitation. People really need to get off their high horse, and get a clue. Human exploitation is not good ANYWHERE.
Here here!
Every human on earth have equal right and American Government know that strongly, they respect the rules of law, other Country respect American Government seriously for that. Therefor I will advice her to tender or to rethink were to present her case properly for proper adherence. If that is done and no positive yearling result then other international country and press media can intervene. Cause we believed gender equality as human rights is concerned.
Yet when we buy products made in China and India for a fraction of the cost of American made products they are almost assuredly made from slave labor. We cannot compete with slave labor. We should no longer accept inferior products or slave labor product just because they are cheaper otherwise we are no better than the slave owners of the South. The only difference is we don't need to dirty our hands with it, as consumers.
Regardless of what her citizenship status was or if she paid taxes or not, this was clearly a violation of basic human rights. You don't need to be a US citizen to be treated righteously .
So much for the attitude that there are laws to protect workers in this country so therefore we don't need unions any more. If people like Scott Walker and John Kasich get their way, not many years from now we are going to see this type of thing happening to OUR people, our children and grandchildren. Politicians and big biz CEO's will sell their soul to the devil or anyone else for a buck. It's sickening to see what greed does to people in power.
I wish they had identified the factory where the woman worked, and what brand the clothes were sold under, so that I had the option to avoid their products.
Maybe if she hadn't broken the law this wouldn't have happened. No sympathy here for someone who self-inflicts their own problems.
This is awful! Can I just say to all you ignorant conservatives, that probably still have a confederate flag hanging on your window, no human being, no matter their situation illegal or legal should go through such a horrible ordeal. First of all can we just discuss all you proud "Americans" that this country was stolen from Native American's, they were murdered, raped, and enslaved. I am making this comment, because I am pretty sure, that most of you hillbillies leaving cruel comments such as "she deserved it", "get out of my country", " she is illegal it doesn't matter", " why am I paying illegals for their healthcare" are nowhere near Native American descent. Therefore, my point is, that your ancestors, were worst, they were thieves and murderers! They ran away from their countries for the same problems,we have people south of the border leaving their countries. Except that when they (your ancestors) came here, they were deceitful, and instead of harmonizing with the people that lived here, they just got rid of them and claimed this land theirs. How awful is that? And now you idiots go on this forum to condemn someone for wanting a better life, by working their ass off! Your ancestors were just lucky that either they were settlers and murdered the natives, or that they came in a boat to Ellis Island for refuge, and none of this bullshit existed! Illegals like it or not, work their asses off, for jobs none of you will ever think of doing, they are the ones that keep your restaurants running, pick your food, do your laundry, clean your house, all these jobs that you 'white conservative Americans" will never do, because its below you, and you have the nerve to go on this forum and criticize those people? Shame on you! If someone is doing all those things for me, I rather my tax money go into their healthcare than go into welfare supporting a drug dealer and his useless wife with ten kids! That should be illegal, giving money to someone for just sitting on their ass, popping babies left and right. Or do you think that is okay, just because those useless people were born here, so they have a right? Maybe we should not value people by their legal status, but maybe we should value them for what they do for this country. I am so lucky I grew up in New York City, were my streets are a melting pot of culture, and I don't have to personally know people as awful and ignorant as some in this forum.
This thread is crazy. While emotional, this woman's experience is *not* slavery. In fact, if I were an American person descended from Middle Passage enslavement – or any American who appreciates that period of his/her nation's history – I'd find this article downright offensive. To be enslaved, how was she captured? How was she taken against her will? And a quick show of hands of ppl who would hand over his/her passport to someone unless s/he is participating in a crime, or at best, not a smart thing to do...who in their right mind would do such a thing??? End Of.
Denise, you can't just make stuff up and claim it as truth. The United States exists in the Constitution, nowhere else. Read the 13th amendment, Lincoln's amendment. It forbids both slavery and "involuntary servitude", and draws no distinction between the two. If you worked and weren't paid you are a slave, or an involuntary servant, and they are legally equivalent.
There is also legal precedent. To prove involuntary servitude, a number of proofs are available: actual or threatened violence; actual or threatened legal reprisal; actual or threatened restraint; fraud; holding of legal documents; actual financial coercion.
And, this is very important, it is clear that the 13th amendment applies to immigrants, legal or illegal, as well as citizens.
Brilliant... another person breaking the law demanding fair treatment in this country of ours. And to top it all off a headline story on CNN! Pfft....
Illegal immigrant. Don't people use the argument of how one drug leads to another or one crime leads to another? Well, she illegally crossed into the US, using a trafficker. So she will be subject to further illegal activities, such as low wages, or worse slavery. Remove the sob story of her family, which is sad, but again, happens to everyone. Wealthy, poor, illegal, legal, people lose loved ones everyday. Very unfortunate situation, but what can you do.? Is she going back to Mexico or living the dream here now?
Actually...my bad: I assumed the woman's passport (or some documentation) was held by the employer. Apologies for that. But...that just makes it worse! Again: how was this woman forced to work? How could she be?? Mexico is on the same land mass as the US; it's not like the Eastern Europeans who are so desperate that they travel in shipping containers (yes, I saw that season of 'The Wire' also!). Why didn't she just go back when she realised what was up? There's something missing from this; I don't mean to sound cold, but I'm a legal immigrant (Britain) and stuff like this really tees me off. Again, *not* slavery.
She said her baby was sick and she couldn't go to the hospital because she had no money, no hospital turns away a sick baby, they would have treated that baby even if she had no money. She didn't even try to take it there, then be refused, and leave, she just didn't bother to take the child at all.
Id just like to say that there is a TON of hate in this thread. I never understand why these topics inspire such aggressive and hateful responses. "Oh this lady was forced into slavery? Well, she should never have come here in search of a better life in the first place. Screw her, she got what she deserved". Its like, "really? thats a little harsh". And then you people start throwing it at each other for the mere crime of having compassion. But thats not enough, once the 'compassionate' have had hate thrown their way, they start engaging too. Its just sad really. What ever happened to reason. For example, illegal immigration is definitely a problem we need to address more seriously. At the same time, I can totally understand why many people desperately want to come here – its because America is great and a beacon to the rest of the world. It has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives or anything like that – most immigrants are totally ignorant to this stuff, they just think of America as a land of opportunity. The sad thing is, we can just have an open door policy and we cant be the world's homeless shelter. But that doesnt mean we have to have disdain or hate for these desperate unfortunate people. One can support stricter enforcement of immigration laws and still be a compassionate human being. My feeling is, it was a mistake to try and come here illegally and doing so puts you at risk for these types of acts and that is your responsibility b/c you made the choice to take that risk. Nonetheless, what happened to her is terrible, unjustified, and totally unacceptable in a country built on the ideal of freedom. The 'trafficker' is more than that and should have gotten a MUCH worse crime. Not only is he forcing people into slavery, which deserves a harsher punishment than house arrest in and of itself, but he is a HUGE part of the immigration problem b/c he is encouraging more illegal immigration with his racket. Just a few thoughts
Hi LJ – I agree w/you regarding the tone of many of the comments. But, in this case, I get the anger. And while not everyone is as articulate as you are, what I do see (and find myself agreeing with) is a sense of the word 'slavery' in an American context. Let's face it: this woman's story is no 'Roots by Alex Haley', is it?...She made 2 decisions which placed her in harm's way – with quite dramatic mitigating circumstances. But they were both her *decisions*. To call that slavery – and for 40 days at that! – undermines the term, especially in a country which arguably is still dealing with its own slave legacy. One can be compassionate without being a bleeding heart at the same time – it's not slavery imo.
Since when have the rich Repugnant Republicans been compassionate about anyone! Look what happened when these "richies" held the White House and look what is happening now. They are wanting to leave millions on the streets as they "revamp" Medicare and Medicaid! They continue to champion laws that marginalize a person of Hispanic descent, just look at who's responsible in Arizona, for one. Just look at this story and how no Republicans have come to offer restructuring instead to help those who are victimized. They have stolen the American Dream of prosperity and a better way of living and only want to restructure government to their liking so that that they will be able to spend that money that we pay in taxes on THEIR pork barrel projects. Let's just call a spade a spade!
Why should the people sacrifice the money they put into their government by allowing the Republicans to just sweep it up and take it and use it to their advantage! We shouldn't! It is our money and we want it now not thrown away by the wayside for Repubs. to do as they wish and will. That's why any person with good common sense would never again vote Republican! Get them out Now! Clear Congress of them - Clean Sweep!!
LUCK is all it took to become born a U.S Citizen.....my mother is 4th generation Mexican, and she married my Father who was an Illegal Mexican. Thank God for my mother being American!!! Have any of you ever been to the slums of Mexico??? Or any other poor country??? My husband's parents are Colombians and yes, they came here illegally, and finally became citizens but not without sacrifce. I'd do the same thing....I don't care. You bet your @ss if I'd been born in a poor country that my illegal @ss would be swimming across any river to have a better life. Many of you "Americans" may hate my people....hate all you want...we are quickly becoming the majority. And please go tell all the white and black homeless people I see at every corner begging for food (for a quick drug/alchol fix) to get a JOB. It's like my mother in law says, they're born here, have their natural citizenship that we "illegals" wish we had and they don't take advantage of it to better their lives. Instead those homeless Americans begging at the corners choose to be lazy, and use the govt WELFARE that I pay taxes on. Or they have tons of kids to get section 8 housing, medicaid, and food stamps. The ISSUE was Slavery...in America. Two wrongs don't make a right, that woman should not have been mistreated or held against her will. Not every illegal is a criminal, some that are my friends will give you their shirt off their back if they can.
i totally agree
You're right, Mex-American!! Most people nowadays appear almost totally devoid of compassion for their fellow man or woman who comes here to better their life, as if their own ancestors all came to this country legally each and every time. If the laws were not so restrictive they could live as Jesus Christ wanted them to live on this Earth with everyone being able to get along and share in their good fortune. As it stands, Republicans are afraid of the ever-growing Hispanic population and that they will one day take over and rule over them that they are frantically trying to pass any and all laws to Keep Hispanics Out Of America! This is the epitome of selfishness, prejudice, greed, and delusion. They can't do it but try they will. Thus, it makes our fine neighbors to the South even more angry to hear the word "Republican." Conservatives can kiss the White House good-bye in 2012 and even Congress with what they're doing to Medicare and Medicaid alone for one, and as for Hispanics, it will be a cold day in Hell from now on before any Hispanic would vote for those who continue to marginalize them!
VOTE? I have no problem with anyone who has the RIGHT to vote! But I do take issue with anyone who has sneaked into the country, lives off the American people and then threaten to "bring down' any adminstraton that dare try to deny them their "rights".
As if you really knew who they were "Krenz". Name those people and then we can look into it. Until you do, you're just full of hot air like those who simply don't like our fine neighbors to the South!
I'm sorry Mex-American but you contradict yourself in your last statement. ("Not every illegal is a criminal...") By definition of the fact that they are "illegal" means that they are criminals. When they willfully committed "breaking & entering/trespassing" to come into the United States, they have broken the first law. When they steal someone's social security number they have committed ID Theft. When they sign up for gov't services without being here legally, that is "theft by unlawful taking/theft of services" ..... need I go on?
I feel for their situation in their country of origin, but we must protect the rights and needs of our own citizens before we can attempt to help them. They will get no help or empathy from people here if they do not respect us, our laws, & our society. Why do you think so many people are now up in arms about the immigration issue. Most Americans didn't look at Latinos any different from other whites until so many disrespectful people came here and shoved it in their faces that they were different and should be treated differently. I too am part Latina. I show respect to the people I live around and work with. I respect the law and obey it. I pay my taxes. I do not attempt to exploit the system. I work within the confines of the system and get along with everyone. I'm not discriminated against or put down. My ancestry is interesting and diverse. I however, am proud of my heritage as an American. My ancestors came from other places but I am AMERICAN. First and for-most, I will always stickup for my country and if you truly appreciate the advantages you have, you would too.
You have clearly never read the Constitution. Like it or not, no one is legally guilty when they commit a crime, they only become legally guilty when a judge or jury says so. Of course, kangaroo courts convict innocent people all the time, so "real" guilt or innocence has nothing to do with the legal definition of guilty – pronounced by a legal court.
Most deportees are never convicted. They are just deported. Only if they hire a lawyer is there a chance of a trial.
Oh please, are you really going to argue the US Constitution with me? I think you are way out of your league.
A person that is accused of a crime is presumed to be innocent until convicted in a court of law by a judge or jury. An illegal alien is given due process as setup and enforced by the United States gov't. They are presumed to have broken US law when they cross any US border w/o proper processing and possession of proper documentation; therefore they are illegal as soon as they enter our territory.
Well, you just proved why America doesnt need you or want you here! Such a superior attitude.The only reason you are able to "make it" is because you have your hand in Americas pocket. If you are born here, you have to go without or get welfare like most of you mexicans do. Those homeless blacks and whites you see, have had to stand in line behind the millions of you illegals at the welfare office. And as far as worrying about you taking over government here, you only have that power if you vote.. oops, cant register...pity.Please go back to the sewers of mexico with that racist attitude of yours. Do us all a favor.
My husband's grandmother from Germany would have never referred to herself as "German-American", she was an American when she came over here the right way. She worked hard too, for very little money. She learn english fast and she never took advantage of her new country. This is the way to be grateful for being accepted here. Become proud of the country that gave you these opportunities and a home. Do you see a difference now?
Maybe they'd be able to find jobs if the ILLEGALS hadn't taken them! Oh your country is unfortunate...boo freakin' hoo. So that gives you the right to break the law and enter a country illegally? I don't think so! If I come from a poor family, does that give me the right to break and enter and steal from an affluent family??? America sends aid to every country in the damn world, yet America is rapidly becoming a cesspit itself. Other countries don't work to better themselves, because America is their welfare! I am so sick of this heal the world mentality. Obviously that isn't working. Bottom line is, if you are American, you don't matter any more to America and its government. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the illegals take what little jobs are left, and they also have full access to the welfare benefits. Bullsh*t!
the same excuse by the same people is always used. illegals should have nothing to complain about sinking jobs that should riightley be going to american citizens.
the answer to this is that no american citizen is going to work in the fields for ten hours a day getting minimum wage.
there has been a mindset in which everybody ackwnoledges that those jobs are too difficult so let somebody else do it.
for the minute men who have not realized this yet, try living their life and see if that changes your opinion of them as a criminal who has never done anything to harm anybodie and more like a human being.
So what is the name of the company she worked for? Where is the repercussions to managers, floor walkers, others with authority that knew things were not right?
@Denise:
It is enslavement because this woman was threatened (physically) if she dared to leave, or not to work. She was not free to make her own decisions, and was forced to work without pay. Sounds pretty much like slavery to me.
As far as who in their right mind would hand their passport to someone, it is hurtful and offensive to say but true: many of these people do not come from particularly educated backgrounds. They don't have the street savvy to realize that someone asking for their passport, or for money to bring them someplace, etc., is in fact looking to screw them over.
Just throwing it out there: would a better solution, instead of going after the corporations, be to more harshly prosecute the traffickers themselves? I've never understood why when a prostitute is indicted, her "pimp" more often that not walks free, or with a very light sentence.
Hi Anne –
You've made some excellent points, especially your comparison to sexl workers. But what I find interesting, is that the sex worker analogy actually may even strengthen my argument... Where I continue to (respectfully!) disagree is in parts of the logic, and in her actual ability to leave. Extending your metaphor, many people go into prostitution – they *choose* that life – and realise harshly and quickly that their lives are in perpetual danger...like the woman in this story. And I agree with your point re the traffickers and the pimp comparison...am wondering why this story does not list the company's name. Indeed, part of me feels that the lack of this mention undercuts this woman's testimony; where is the record for the employer?
First off - I just want to say how much I appreciate you not resorting to the ignorance that some people on both sides of any issue tend to do on these forums!!
I'm guessing there are a few reasons why the article doesn't have the company's name. If it's any major corporation, department store, etc, they have PR people whose job it is to keep their name out of it (whatever your moral view of this, it still happens). Also, it sounds as if the trial for the trafficker is ongoing, and there may be some sort of gag-order or other legal privacy measures in play.
It says that the trafficker was threatening her family, her daughters, and the woman herself. It's easy to say "oh just walk out" when you're not in that situation. But considering the moral depravity that the employer had already shown, it's not unreasonable to think that the victim truly believed her life or her loved ones would be in danger.
Moreover, yes, she was an illegal immigrant. She couldn't go to the authorities (or she was afraid to since she was at least partially committing a crime herself), and had zero resources at her disposal to get out or get home.
the lady looks like an american indian
These horrendous crimes are the result of lax enforcement of imigration laws. Businesses would not be willing to do this if the penalties were stiff enough. There would not be sufficient profit benefit. Immigrants are not our enemy, but unchecked illegal immigration creates a burden on our society and opportunities for those who wish to exploit the illegal immigrants. Our current "look the other way" approach combined with overly complicated immigration requirements make illegal immigration the preferred method of coming to our country. Enforce our laws and stop this mistreatment.
the u.s. once flourished with many indian nations. where did it all go? the whites claim their innocence, what's new
Why did this woman have four babies when she could not provide for them?
Why did this woman have four babies when she could not provide for them?
Why did this woman have four babies when she could not provide for them?
Why did this woman have four babies when she could not provide for them?
This question needs to be asked and asked until the "victims" of the world come to understand that they are truly the "victimizers".
Good point, I'm not about to feel bad for her and her brood. Why is Mexico so bad in the first place?
We should pass a law that only the rich should be allowed to have children, and forcibly abort all the poor pregnant women. Then we should also pass a law that only the rich should be allowed to have money. The poor waste it on food and shelter and other stupid things, while the rich spend it on vacations and luxuries and other things that drive our economy. Any poor caught with money should be publicly guillotined.
I'm just a little unsure about the Republican agenda. No abortions allowed, no sex education, no contraception, but enslave the poor and throw them in prison and hang them. For people who claim to love, I see very little evidence.
This wouldn't have happened to her if mandatory eVerify were in place (assuming she is working in the country illegally). The lure of money for the trafficker for enslaving her wouldn't have been there in the first place. Further, if she applied to enter the country legally, she'd have the protections of labor law from the beginning (and would have been trained in such as part of coming into the country legally). Illegal immigration is bad for the illegals entering too – that's why it is ILLEGAL!
Secure the borders and throw employers in jail if they hire illegals... enforcing the law is the best way to eliminate trafficking of all sorts. Don't blame retailers that believe they are dealing with an honest wholesaler/business. This woman knew she was breaking the law when she broke into this country illegally; why did she think others wouldn't break the laws to exploit her & her illicit act?
I want slavery and exploitation stopped but people from other countries must respect our laws and apply to come here the right way. They are complicit in their own victimization.
Concise and well said. Couldn't agree more – nice one.
kickapoo why don't you actually attend school and get an education so you can make an intelligent comment that may open up other peoples minds to your opinions. I haven't seen you post anything but quips and insults so far.
duh, what a doof
Yes, I'm sorry but that is exactly what you seem like...
I would agree with the standpoint of 'make them apply, wait in line just like everybody else' if our method of allowing people legal entry weren't so utterly ridiculous. Two cases in point:
My aunt through marriage came here from an Asian country. Her brother also wished to come with his wife and daughter. I wasn't born when this all happened but I do know that the wife and daughter were able to come legally. He then had to wait eight years, even though he was married to someone here legally, even though he had no criminal history whatsoever. His daughter was forced to live part of her childhood without her father because of our immigration laws.
Second, this via a friend of mine. A woman recently married her Guatemalan boyfriend that she met while in graduate school in the US. They are now expecting their first child. He wants to come back and earn his PhD - not exactly the stereotype of a criminal leech on our American society. They are married, and were married in the United States. She is a citizen. He is unable to come back here legally, and will likely be unable to do so for several years.
These are just two anecdotes of what happens to the people who wait in line. Maybe now you can better understand the urge to jump it.
I find it horrible that many of you think that just because she's an illegal alien that she deserves this type of treatment. No human deserves to be treated in such a way that denies them basic human rights and respect. I guess, however, in your own little menial little worlds you want to live by something called the the "Just World Phenomenon". What do you think about those who were kidnapped from their own homes and forced to become illegal aliens here? OR Even Teenage citizens who were runaways who became victims in human trafficking? Many of you have NO clue what human trafficking really is. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself, instead of being another ignorant fool.
YET ANOTHER ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT PLAYING THE VICTIM ROLE. lock her up (illegally entered US), take what money she has earned back (paid NO taxes), give her some balls (to share with her fellow countrymen to stand up to their crooked govt if it is so freakin bad to live there), and DEPORT her.
How's the view from your porch? Must be nice to live in your uneducated, ignorant world.
bye to all you rednecks and nazis. gtg
Mexicans are really great people, there have a rich and vibrant culture. They are however making massive impositions on the United States. They need to drop religious beliefs that don't allow birth control, having 7+ kids screws them over and puts unfair strain on our infrastructure. Why do you think Mexico is so bad, the main reason is that they have more children than they can afford, and then they think they have the right to barge into the US, they don't have the right, take American history, we bought those territories. The icing on the cake is that they get here, fornicate until the highest demographic in the state of California is Mexican children under 10, and then say f the US.
So, She did not realize that she needed documentation to come to America. She didn't realize she might be victimized? What happened was completely wrong, ON EVERYONE"S PART. Instead of trying to tug at our heartstrings, she should be educated as to the immigration process, while being escorted home to wherever. Her employer should be arrested. Instead, some bleeding heart will probably bring her to the head of the line for a green card and give her a job (which will certainly give renewed hope to her countrymen) or maybe even get her a reality show!
Here's some facts: Human Trafficking is the #1 Profit Business in the black market. They take unsuspecting, Uneducated people who believe pretty much anything their told when it comes to a better life. They set up ploys like modeling and job agencies all across the world so that they can get their victims who BELIEVE everything is LEGIT. There is also a lot of kidnapping where thousands of children worldwide go missing (even our citizens) and enter here illegally and EVEN legally. Victims usually become either sex slaves or exploited workers. The youngest victims that has been found was a 8 yr old girl that was forced into sex slavery. Please educate yourselves, this is not just an issue in the U.S. it's worldwide!!!!
Once again people are very ignorant on the matters surrounding human trafficking. It's a very real issue that's plaguing many countries including our own. Many of the folks not borne in the USA that become victims in this country do not come from modernized cities nor do they understand the process it takes to come here legally. Many are from very poor countries, desperate to help their families, and they fall for the lies traffickers tell them (traffickers prey on a certain type of person). They think it's a golden opportunity to earn money for their families and end up enslaved and most never see a dime of what they earn. Many of them are abused. Perhaps this is why human trafficking is a growing problem. Because people don't care enough about it and they just want to toss around the word "illegal." Meanwhile the average age of a trafficked prostitute is 12 years old. But then again, no one cares.
If you were in her shoes. What would you have done? Wouldn't you have done whatever you could to provide for your family? You don't consider her a victim because you do not identify with her. I don't know if you will try or not. But you should consider it. Your lack of compassion should be reserved for hardened criminals if you are going to steel yourself. But a lack of compassion for a mother who lost her child is very inhuman. I don't mind. Those who lack the inability to feel for others will succumb to social darwinism. I consider myself neither Democratic, Republican, or Independent. Definitely not tea party. But it seems that the Republican's care deeply about the country. Democrats seem to care deeply about the people in the country. Perhaps there is a common ground somewhere?
Hi Solemn –
In a way, I can relate to this woman – although, granted, my circumstances weren't nearly as desperate as hers. She chose to immigrate (let's leave the legality out of it for now) to a country where 1) she couldn't speak the language – that seems to be implied from the article – and 2) she had no legal status because of how she arrived. I'm American and I live in Britain as a legal immigrant. The reason I don't live in Holland or France (both countries where my work took me) is because of the fact that I didn't speak either of those languages, and therefore would have a difficult time assimilating and just functioning. If the point the woman says is true – that she needed to find someone to translate for her on the street – then in my eyes, she actually had no choice but to flee *back* to her country, because how could she function alone with no one – and no English? I agree trafficking is rampant (and not just in North America) – my issue is calling it *slavery*. No.
Oh my, Solemn – I just reread your last sentence re Dems and Repubs differences- how poignant (and I think, accurate)! Yes, I think you're right re middle ground, and maybe the middle ground is, to care about the legal citizens of a country first as a priority, and best efforts to those who aren't, and expect difficult conversations, decisions, and repercussions on the back of that path.
When will the government do something about the illegal scourge??
It's all about demand and supply....DUHH. Please go get an education. Perhaps you might learn something....or gain something.
the gov. is not going to do anything because the "scourge" are doing all of the jobs that nobody else is wiling to do.
P.S. God does not condone slavery. It was something that had to be dealt with in the bible, because human beings are flawed. It is the same with divorce too. God does not condone it, but it is dealt with because human beings are so flawed.
Hell, I want to feel 'safe and supported" too. But I have to follow the law, pay my own way and work for what me and my children need. How come I didn't get free housing, medical care and recognition? Ive been paying into the system my whole life! How about a support group for me? Maybe I should sneak into another country and be 'enslaved' for a while, I could sell a book.
We are all slaves to money. But most of us get to opt-in and opt-out easier.
I have no sympathy for this woman at all! The sense of entitlement that illegals have just boggles my mind. I have no issue with immigrants, but for f*cks sake, if you're going to be here, do it LEGALLY! There are laws in place for a reason, and there is a process to follow. And you know what? It's NOT THAT DIFFICULT! My husband came to this country from England. We filled out the paperwork ourselves, without the help of a lawyer, we paid the fees for him to be here, we went to the required immigration appointments, and he is here legally! Whether you agree with the law or not, it's still a law. If you sneak in to the country, you are breaking the law- you are a criminal. I have no sympathy for criminals who knowingly break the law.
Slavery certainly sucks, but I think my time would be better spent helping to stop illegal immegaration.
United States is a selfish country!! People say that immigrants should leave because hey came illegally and are over populating the countr and taking jobs from Americans!! Stop being racist for people trying to make a better living. Sad the American dream has left!! But those immigrants want that so call American dream. My family came to thus county illegally. I was born a citizen. My family came to this country from El Salvador where the economy has gone worse even till this day!! My family had worked very hard to this day!!! They have help me through college. My childhood was not easy. I never saw my mother cause we wax a single mother working multiple jobs to pay for everything!! She became a resident and she has become a citizen!!! She has work hard and that is what other people are doing or trying at least. Do not bring religion to his cause it has nothing to do with that!! Yes our possible shutdown will affect everybody but immigrants are not the blame for that. If our governmet just come up with a reasonable budget we will not be in this position!!! The richer want to get richer he poor stay poor. Stop being in this high horse and let people who are trying to make a better living alone!! Yes there are immigrants who take advantage of te government aid but as well there are Americans that do that as well. About the concentration camps are you that racist that will go back to what hitler did with Jewish people? Stop with racism this makes me sick when all people do is put down other people!!!
Illegal Aliens are here illegaly. Sure. I get it. But their "illegal activity" is only a civil infraction, comparable to getting a speeding ticket, not comparable to murder. If they are here illegally AND committing more serious crimes (rape, robbery, murder, etc.), then yeah send them back. But if they are here working their buts off, then pay them their due wages and mind your own business.
I think it is about what is LEGAL or MORAL. Both of them are conspiracy tools against Good.
What is the amazing? This is the common ingredient in America. Stories like this happens everyday en USA. America , land of slavery, physical and mental. Pure Capitalism.
The article really anguerd me because (as many people have blogged) left off the part that she was here illegally. While I can sympathize with a mothher trying to provide for her children, what the article should have pointed out is that the trafficker should have been penalized with a stiffer penalty and the "victim" could have ALWAYS gone to the police.
But that's the thing...she thought she was here legally. This is what happens to many victims because they are uneducated. She could have gone to the police BUT what happens when you come from somewhere, where the cops are sometimes members of trafficking rings. There's a high corruption of cops in Mexico so there is no trust for the police.
Ignorance of the law is not excusable. If you get pulled over for speeding, you can't get out of it by saying, "I didn't know what the speed limit was." It's your own responsibility to know the speed limit, just as if you go to another country, you are responsible to know the laws. She may be a foreigner, but that doesn't automatically make her ignorant.
The ignorance behind some of the comments left regarding the issue is unbelievable. This woman came here in the hopes of leaving a country that yes is poor and corrupted, to a country that is known for hope and propsperity. She wants a better life that all of us want for herself and her family. She did not do so legally but she did anything possible, going to desperate measures, to make a better life for her and her family. Just like anyone one of us would do if we were in a situation like hers. The Traffiker DOES deserve more punishment! Slavery is unjust in anyway you look at it! Not any one person walking this earth deserves to be treated as a slave. Corruption is everywhere, there is no denying that, but it only continues to exist because people refuse to change the way they think about life and one another. Life is to be filled in abundance, to be lived in peace. We should help one another if we start to stray on the wrong path. Be positive and speak with love, not negativity.
The very best comment so far
Wow...alot of arguing on this one. I am a Christian and my heart breaks for this lady. I don't care if was here legally or illegally. I think the Christians on here need to remember we were in fact breaking God's laws before He saved us...we aren't so high and mighty we can stand in judgment like this. This ladies baby DIED because of lack of money..can you image? If the woman had started out here in America...born here even if she didn't have the money she could have taken her baby into the ER and they would not have denied her care. Many golden hearted people give money on a regular basis to hospitals to help pay for that can't. I can't blame this lady one bit for wanting to work (work! not suck from the system here!) to make money to care for the rest of her children. She was trying her best and was tricked.
Those who are here illegally tend to be victimized the most and no I don't blame them one bit for wanting a better life. All of us have immigrant in our family history...at some point in our family line a relative came to America for the first time. The only ones who can claim to be truly natural citizens are the Indians anyway. There is nothing in the Christian bible that says to hate on a certain group of people...Jesus never says love thy neighbor unless they are illegal or breaking some laws. good grief.
Anyway...back on topic..I sure would like to know what company these clothes are going too so we can boycott them. I think this is just outrageous and more so that the person holding these women against their will only got house arrest. Apparently we need new laws against slavery? How sad! Thought this was all taken care of with President Lincoln...guess not. I pray this woman and her family stay safe and she is able to provide for them where ever they are and that the threats against her are stopped. In Jesus Name I pray, Amen
Well said Beam!!!
Nessa, If the United states was , as you call us "Selfish Country" you would have been put in jail along with your parents and then shipped back on the first thing smoking to 'El Salvador". America did not become the nation it is by allowing people to flaunt its laws, these freedoms were fought for and protected. If we are so Selfish and greedy, why did your [parents come here? Because they heard about the handouts they could get thats why. The economy there is so terrible, because of people like you and your parents, who want to be given something they did not necessarily earn. The american people are tired of working our asses off and being denied things we have worked hard to realize and then look around and see illegals, going to college, being assured of health care and talking shyt about how selfish and lazy Americans are. And let me add this nessa, If we keep letting illegals who take take take and not give much back in return, America will look like El salvador, some parts of this country already do. You would be very surprised at who I am before you start labeling me a racist, so you might wanna just say I'm a concerned and proud American and I wanna stay proud of America.
I love you Krenz. Couldn't have said it better.
And Americans take "advantage" of government programs because every penny of that money has come out of our pockets in the form of taxes which illegals do not pay. You have the nerve to be arrogant, look down on America when it is people like your parents who are turning it into a shithole in the first place. i gotta tell you, if I had unlimited funds, I would build a fence so high along the entire mexican border and pump it so full of voltage the only way anyone could ever get into this country would be by visa and they would be short term and would be tracked. No more anchor babies, no more free rides.
Than tell companies to stop hiring illegals!!!! Once illegals realize there's no hope than they will stay in their own country. Americans didn't have a problem with illegals until they realized a lot of jobs were being taken. The companies are to BLAME mostly because they're are the ones demanding more workers from other countries. Why do you think so many companies are outsourcing to other countries?!?! Illegals are being used as a scapegoat because of frustrations by the citizens but blame the corporations!!! LOL @ no more anchor babies?! Really?! What do you think about woman like Octomom who is clearly a (insane) woman?
LJ WELL SAID!
Well said KATE!
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"My trafficker told me that now I owe her almost $3,000 for bringing me to the U.S. and that I had to work for her in order to pay her back."
Inst that what people do when they owe someone money and cant pay? They work it off? I dont know where she got the notion that you can buy things without money in America!! So she requested a service, didnt pay, all while committing a crime, and now let me get this straight...a non-profit organization is going to house and support her?! What if this was the other side of the fence and I (5th gen american) wanted to go live in Mexico, and I owed money to someone, they wouldn't even let me work it off they would kill me.
It's not clear from this article, but I believe what happened is that she was not informed before coming here that the employer would charge her 3000 for the transportation or whatever other services. It's not like she bought something not knowing how much it costs - she thought she was getting help, not a service for which she'd have to pay.
Sorry Anne, but even the most uneducated Mexican knows that if you are crossing the border with a "Coyote" to work in the US that money and/or services will be charged for the passage. The risk is too high for the smuggler to do it out of the goodness of their heart. Sorry, I'm not buying your logic. Maybe $3000.00 wasn't specified before but she knew it would cost something.
Not saying she deserved to be treated as badly as she was, but she victimized herself when she willfully broke US law. If you have so little respect toward the law, you shouldn't expect others to respect the law in regard to you.
Who cares...
You know how much idiots are there in this world? Reading this thread would give you an idea if you have a fkn head. shameless people! There are very good story tellers these days to get their way around here. Some on the other side claiming California was taken from the indegouness Mexico. Why not Mexico declare war against the U.S.A, so we can finish up the problem? Then, that's the end of Mexico and nice way to finish up all the drug pested shitty hole.
All what we received from Mexico are drugs, gangs, illegals, and slums and dirty and filthy communities wherever they occupy! OMG, go see how Los Angeles looks like today! If you can walk around South-central Los Angeles even day light i wonder. Vendors with stolen shopping carts selling their "tumales" and what have you! America is the only country where these demanding illegal bandits are demanding "rights".
If California was part of Mexico today, i bet you, these Mexicans will cross to this side of U.S.A no matter what!!! I like to see the day Mexicans talk with gratitude other than demanding "rights" and while enjoying every blessing of this country and saying it is belong to Mexico!! Shame, Shame shame on them! Would Mexico done better if California would have been part of Mexico? This is the only education Mexico gives to its peasants, a fabricated history class!!! and they come here to claim their heritage!
You will hear more fabricated stories like this one as time goes on and use all major news media to get what they want. My message for big headed commentators here, go back to Mexico and protest like those people in the Middle East these days, (if you are real Machos and machas) and change your corrupt country and make a better place for all of you!!! Good luck.
Krenz I am citizen do not be taking to me like I am not. Like I said the American dream has left!! Yes my family was to live better and that was exactly they did.. I was not an immigrant my family was but they all became citizens of this country!! So I have every right to talk like I want cause it is true we are selfis cause I do admit it myself. We are privilege to live in this country. Like I said immigrants have over populated the country but do talk about person cause she clearly did what she did for her family. Yu would do the same for yor family. Second can you don't assume that immigrants are only coming from Mexico or Latin america they come from every where. Yes she did wrong coming here illegally but she did for her family. My family would do all over again if they can.
Wow. There’s a lot of hate here!
I do agree that aliens are a problem to any country. And the US would be better off without all the Mexican or whatever other nationals crossing the border. But that does not mean I will treat them as dogs (actually dogs get more sympathy). I am not American and I do NOT live in the U.S. nor do I want to.
But since I’m rich whenever I want to go to the US you all don’t care about my nationality.
This people never got any opportunities and are in the vast majority are completely uneducated; they can barely read let alone understand all the proper immigration proceedings.
The truth is your problem is not the nationality or color. You want people who have money and most of you could care less about the poor illegal or not.
I feel for them and for the US citizens who are suffering needing medical attention, money for food or a roof to live.
After all… we are all humans. Don’t matter the nationally.
Saying anyone deserves slavery is simply appalling.
The earth is The Lord's and the fullness there of. GOD is no respector of persons. The only ignorance that is accurate is the ignorance that is manifested inwardly.Read and study The BIBLE and learn GOD'S Precepts. Then and only then will change come to any of us.
Why didn't she go back to Mexico? No slavery there. Seems to be a beautiful country. Next to this, when inspection comes to check.. the company will be givin a fine or the owner gets some jail time in Mexico. Mexicans really know all about human rights.
for all of those people who say that these immigrants are good for nothing... i would like to see a minute man work in the fields for ten hours a day for minimum wage and no benefits. the only reason that so many illegals have jobs here in america is because the rest of us are too lazy to do them or think we are too good for it. the ingnorance that the right wing has towards this issue is so obvious. living in america makes people take things for granted. but i bet none of them are thinking-gee i guess we shouldnt have invaded over half of mexico and made it part of the us.
Sorry, but I am so sick of these illegal immigrant sob stories. She should be deported like all the rest of the 20 million here living off the taxpayer. And for all you bleeding heart liberals, you pay for them and let the rest of us taxpayers off the hook. We really need to revolt.
if our liberal goverment would protect the border with real troops instead of the cub scout units their now less of this crap would take place, thanks obama
This is her story in her "own words" is it? I can't believe that such an articulate, well spoken woman could not make a living in many other ways. Surely she would have figured out that an illegal entry and illegal work situation would be a mistake. And have consequences. I have sympathy for her story. But I live in california and have seen our social services and health care and education sinking and sinking with the weight of the illegal immigration. P.S. I am not a Republican. I'm a hard working moderate Democrat, barely making it financially and no, I'm sorry, I cannot support all of the sad stories in the world. Work for recourse in the country where you live.
As I was reading this tale, I knew these were not "her own words" but the words of a liberal-hearted journalist who was writing this story from a very biased slant trying to elicit sympathy. This woman entered the country illegally and was caught up in an illegal circumstance. I'm positive she knew she was herself committing a crime coming into the country, but those facts are kept out of it. CNN, you are so biased.
Carrots also come in purple.
Sunny obviously you didn't read correctly it said it wasedited by the courts in the first two sentences. I don't think we need to support and sad story but we need to open our minds and eyes and just realize that these things are actually happening in 2011. Which is what the purpose of the story is about. To make you unware people aware of the things that go on under our noses.
Slavery is a big NO everyone and shoo off if they truly want to argue other wise. You don't have to be apart of any party to know right from wrong
@Sean. I see you belong to the Sarah Palin political and reasoning camp. How do I come to this conclusion? Reading your comments basing your opinion on your experience with one person with probably a biased perspective. Just as S.P. thought she had International experience by been able to see Russia from Alaska–which is probably a lie too. Both arrive at conclusions with incomplete evidence. For your information, the basic idea of why people want come here has not changed for the past 400 years–looking for a better life. I rest my case buddy.
This is the future of the US. We are on the downward spiral into the thrid world toilet. They come here bringing their filth with them and what do we expect.
BOB, I agree they are destroying the cities! They do not clean up behind themselves. They breed like roaches, they live off of the welfare system! over 90% of LA's most wanted is Mexican.
@ bob I know lot's of dirty, uneducated, ill mannered born americans so what's your point? None the less unless your a true full blood native american from an indian tribe then you are catagorizing your family background as filth.
Don't talk nonesense politics. To me as a citizen of the U.S it doesn't matter what political government we had or have. Neither democrats nor Republicans have fixed this serious illegal problem facing this country for many decades and until it will becomes just another Mexico, El salvodor, Guatamala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Colombia and like the rest of them. They came for better life but they have not advanced themselves in this country but more gangs, drugs, and high crimes on the rise among them.
NO ILLEGALS pay tax period! My tax dollar pays them and their children education, medical, and welfare!
California has been drained out by illegals for decades but nothing had done to correct it. NOW we have to listen bogus stories to give more simpathy and way out to bring the rest of their families as refugees here because their lives are threatened by their traffickers!
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looks like she should be deported along with the 50 million other illegal criminals
Yes, and you can blindly keep the "legal" criminals who promise poor people the World and use them for their own benefit.
Agree. If she came here illegally without documentation or using the proper protocol in order to support her relatives elsewhere, she does not belong here to begin with. I am tired of the "victim" mentality.
As many of these stories as I've seen plastered everywhere, I find it hard to believe that the people in them haven't heard similar ones prior to their illegal entry into the United States. If they can't learn from them, they deserve what they get by choosing to enter the country illegally. I've long since stopped feeling sorry for these people as they bring it on themselves, then drag the rest of us down with them. Instead of using our tax dollars on programs to help them, lets use it to create jobs to ferret them out and transport them back to their home country like the criminals they are. You want to be here, do it the right way, and odds are you won't find yourself in these situations. Otherwise, expect to be looked down upon and treated like trash.
"...[E] xpect to be looked down upon and treated like trash"...you mean like the way that you look down on these people. Hypocritcal much? This World is a multinational World now, you haven't realised it yet living in your cocoon.
First let me suggest you gain a better command of the word hypocritical. Second, I work my ass off, and pay ever increasing taxes to see these people end up living better than I do because they lie, break laws and cheat the system. Then they cry for the camera and I'm supposed to feel sorry for them? Guess what I don't. Why should I feel sorry for someone who broke the law and had to deal with the consequences of their actions. How about we ship them all to your country for you to take care of?
Are you telling me your post doesn't imply that you look down on these people and think of them as trash? If not, I am perfectly well aware of the meaning of hypocritical and YOU are it. BTW we have illegal immigrants coming to our country too, we also have rings who bring women here for s.ex. People in thse rings are Australians- I'd prefer they be shipped to third world countries and let in people who want to live the real Australian dream and care about other humans (unlike you).
Bet the people who used her for money are your best friends and "deserve everything the get" too.
People who sit on their hands and say "These illegal people should change their own country" are self-centred children. PS: This is your World, who aren't you changing it?
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@ ugh...I so agree...there are soooo many AMERICANS who drain the system just because they can...the system is there as a helping hand not a rest of your life support...that is why we are drained it has nothing to do with the "mexicans"...this poor woman was brought here thinking she was doing the right thing it was the employer who lied about everything....
Please explain to me how knowingly and deliberately breaking the law is doing the right thing. Great example she's setting for her offspring.
Better than txample than American's who use women like this for their own benefit. They would also be stealing off you too.
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I've noticed a lot of the commentators don't know that, when offered a job, many are told that they will either get citizenship or a green card. Not all are lied to that way, but those men and women are expecting legality as well as decent living circumstances and wages. You cannot blame the victim when they have no way to verify, protest, or knowledge of legal capabilities.
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That was not a comment on illegal citizens in general. That was a comment on the enslavement of illegal immigrants. The two are separate issues.
She knew what he was doing was illegal She paid somebody to bring her into your country and now compains about how hard she has to work to pay her off her debt hould have read the fine print I don t feel sorry for these people Here in Canada a boatload of Tamils show up after paying up to 25000 dollars to come here and now opposition parties think these people shouldn t have to pay back the smugglers Hell this will open the flood gates for more to come and lie
Dear Proud Australian,
Invest in an English textbook, please and thank you. Debates are much more interesting when you can make a coherent post. Secondly, I have refrained from the person insults until now. For your information, I do not know any of the people in this story, but I have the right to my opinions, as do you. When you can focus yours on the story rather random comments stemming from the delusions you have about my social life, I'll be happy to discuss them with you. Until then, my opinion is that you are nothing but an insignificant internet troll, looking for attention in your pathetic life.
Proud Aussie probably isn't a real Australian. I'm thinking from the posts that you are conversing with a person of Latino origins. If this was an Aussie, why would they be talking about our immigration issues when they have one of the strictest immigration policies in the world.
Ex: My WWII hero Uncle is a multi-millionaire and Australia wouldn't even let him immigrate there, due to the fact that they said he didn't have any specific skills that would benefit their society. Didn't matter that he could afford to pay his own way & didn't need a job to live.
No, I don't think Proud Australian is as advertised.
I have read nothing in your posts Fed Up, that leads me to believe, that you are putting Latino/Latinas down personally; only the illegal acts of said persons.
first I will like to say that I am against all slavery
but :
god created poor people and rich
and the rich need to give to the poor !!
but how ??
first I will like to propos this is not something easy to solve
and most slavery are to woman like prostitute …
I think if we allow polygamy you will find that there will be less slavery among woman
Ok awesome she got away the jerk off that kidnapped her only got 6 months??? but why was hse allowed to stay here? She still broke the law by consenting to come here illegally, then after the FBI found here they let her stay? Gosh I wish my Swedish great great grandfather came here illegally then I can see it from her level but im sorry I can't how to 1000's of filipinos make it over every year but mexicans are always the the ones being blamed for this issue.
How can you say filipinos? our country is thhe worst of problems! Mexico is paradise compared to here mexicans
need to fix there country!
Well, I hate latinos from across the border so, if they come here and get abused, I say GOOD. serves them right. I hope they all get sick and die. I have not compassion for the people who are slowly destroying our country.. Roaches.
Things like this have happened and have been reported before dont these people read what is happening in the world. If they want to take that chance then that is their problem. She should be sent back to wherever she comes from and make a life for herself there.
I am wondering if the lady that alleges she was raped by govt. forces in Tripoli will be asking to come to the United States too since she says her life is in danger????
Its a really good excuse to get some country to take you in, plus the 50 or so relatives!!!! Dont you think?
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I feel strongly that all traffickers should be put against the wall and shot along with those that grant them leniency in a court of law. They are parasites who have lost their humanity. They are a cancer as are those that protect and work with them knowing the evil that they are committing. As for the woman...give me a break she didn't even know how to make a phone call which is typical of a victim being ignorant and targeted by a predator. She should be paid full for her work plus damages and returned to her native country with our apology and told to spread the word when she gets back that America is not the silver lining so many make us out to be.
Let me get this straight. She came to America so she could send money home? When she went to the phone to make the call she didnt know how to use it, nor did she speak english. Ok, human trafficking is wrong yet who made the decision to come here illegaly anyway? Sorry no sympathy here because any decision I make, right or wrong, I am the one paying the consequenses. Welcome to America, now speak english.
Did she get deported? I have no pity at this time. GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR COUNTRY! YOU ARE draining our welfare system. You have brought your bed bugs your diseases! You have babies like rabbits! cYou cause so much Crime! Ihave nothing good to say about the illegal ALIENS!
There are some very disgusting things coming out of peoples mouths about this woman, lets stop the racism and disgusting remarks. We get it you don't like illegals and neither do I, but at least try to be grown adults about this topic. I hope this country falls apart piece by piece and our politicians own all your souls. Good riddance to you all.
To all the folks who keep bringing up that everyone in America is an illegal American: First of all if your ancestors came thru Ellis Island they went through all the paper work and legal processing to become legal citizens in America! They worked hard, paid taxes, did not steal SS# to collect welfare and foodstamps from those who actually are citizens here and pay taxes and yet can not receive any benefits because of the minorities collecting them! It seems to many people are taking offence to others that say the Mexicans... Well thats because the majority of illegals in this country are from Mexico! and to the person who bashed someone for being white you are no better you claim they were being racists but it's ok for you to be racist because someone is white. The fact is SS#'s being stolen by the millons so illegals can collect benefits and illegally claim somesort of citinzship! Kudo's to all the ones who went through the process to be come legal. But to those who dont try and to the Americans who live here and are condoning it by hireing them and paying them a cheap wage under the table so they can advoid paying State and Federal taxes you are just as bad!!! I am proud to be an American and my Ancestors went through Ellis Island to become here and help build this great country we call America they worked hard legally, I have no pity for those who are doing it wrong and know it! it is not about hate, color or anything elses except taking advantage illegally and stealing resourses from our Country that were ment to accomendate and help the legal citizens in this Country regardless of nationality they are legal!! Quit bringing religion into this! Quit bashing the Americans who feel strongly about this issue!!!GET LEGALIZED that's all that is asked!
Well said Kash. My sentiments exactly.
Did you know what socialism was before your local news media hyped it up? Please take a basic class in economics before you go around throwing phrases.
Tell us what companies and brands to boycott. Otherwise these cruel acts of slavery will go unpunished.
Did any of you consider the fact that it is highly likely that the business person that was convicted of abusing Flor Molina was Latino? Who else would be able to set-up a trafficking network in Mexico to get the word out to budding seamstresses that jobs were available in America at her dress factory. Who could convince her that she would be provided w/room and board and where they didn't have to speak English or have documentation to work. Who would she trust other than another Latino? I'm sure this is why CNN has not published the name of the abuser. It would take away from ANY sympathy Molina would get for being duped.
Publish the name CNN and allay my suspicions.
It is hard for many of us to look at this story as a true case of slavery when the purported victim
1) Came here of her own free will (although allegedly duped)
2) Was left alone after all the other workers left the plant
3) There is no mention of her being locked-in or tied up & the abuser was not charged with kidnapping
In cases of sex slaves in the US, which are real cases of slavery; workers are duped to come here but are quickly victims of kidnapping, rape, and other crimes. They are never left alone or put in a position in-which they might escape.
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You were not a "slave". You worked there of your own free-will; you were not bound and chained, you had the freedom to come and go as you wanted. Using the word "enslaved" or "slavery" to describe being taken advantage of or manipulated for a time, degrades the definition of what people that truly are enslaved go through.
Sorry oneye you were not a slave. Your servitude as you put it, was not involuntary.
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Her moaning and whining is pathetic, she should think of her good fortune that it lasted only 40 days.
There is real slavery in the US. I was enslaved for over almost a thousand days in a US prison. I was imprisoned and enslaved against my will, and every free moment I worked to escape to return to my family. You can't even imagine what its like, to be torn away from your family, and thrown into a crowded box of noisy stupid people with poor food and inhumane living conditions. Its like living in an austere hot, cold, humid cave, or a concentration camp. It wears and tears on you every day, its ceaseless like an ocean, it dumbs you down.
I won my appeal and bogus conviction was thrown out. The US government, its police, and military can and will burn in hell for what it did to me. The english court system is corrupt as hell, its a meat grinder profit center to run slander games on good honest people who just want to be left alone, to criminalize them for profit and power.
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She was enslaved nine years prior and they were still closing in on the trafficker? Funny. Meanwhile, I bet we have her entire family here providing for them out of the taxpayer till. How many children did this irresponsible woman have in a village where there was no opportunity to feed them?
Just wait till the rise of the BRIC and Asian Tiger economies, you will be the one in a poverty-sticken land.
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Ken X says it as it is. Certainly there is human trafficking and slavery. However these words are usually used by the religious right to persecute businesses and female immigrants involved in prostitution. The great majority of immigrant women involved in prostitution in the US immigrated freely and without coercion. Some came with the intention to do sex work but many came with the intent to do other work and found sex work easier and higher paying. Some are legal, some are illegal immigrants but the overwhelming majority could return to their homeland any time if they wished. As long as they can practice their profession, make money, send some home and enjoy life in the US, they stay. Very very few are coerced but we only hear about those that are coerced in the popular press which panders to the religious extremists who want to wipe out the oldest profession. Lots of luck.
I only read the first story about the woman in the LA garment district help in a sweat shop for 40 days. Yes, a cautionary and disturbing story but was this woman a legal resident, and if not, was she deported? I don't want tax dollars spent on excessive support of people who come here illegally. The US can't support everyone. Those who bring in illegals should be heavily fined and given jail terms.
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This country has its priorities all messed up. They're basically letting illegals come into this country and rape the system.
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