Sex slavery: A family business
By CNN's Jonathan Wald
When Marius Nejloveanu was sent to jail in January for 21 years, it was the longest sentence anyone had faced in Britain for human trafficking.
Bogdan Nejloveanu, 51, left, and his son Marius were found guilty by an English court for human trafficking.
The judge said the 23-year-old Romanian, together with his 51-year-old father, Bogdan, had run a sex trafficking ring like a family business.
They lured several women, then aged between 15 and 23 years old, from Romania to the brothels of Madrid and Manchester, where they forced them to work as prostitutes.
One of the girls was Marius Nejloveanu's cousin. Another was a relative of the Nejloveanus' business partner who pled guilty to sex trafficking.
Their closest family pled ignorance to Marius' crimes and protested Bogdan's innocence.
Outside their family home in the snow-swept town of Buzescu, Bogdan's mother Florica Nejloveanu angrily insists "my son is in prison for nothing, cause my little boy isn't guilty of anything."
Another of Bogdan's children and Marius' step-brother, Nicolaie, raises his hands defensively. "I don't know what my brother does. My brother doesn't tell me what he's up to," he says.
The detective who initiated the investigation into the Nejloveanus has a different view. "They are criminals," Stefan Florea says as he leans over the case file. "Marius, he is a liar. He is a guy like Casanova. He said to all these girls, I love you, I want to marry you, and when he and those girls went to Spain he forced them into prostitution," Florea said.
His words are grave but his tone is casual. Maybe it's because Florea is all too familiar with this kind of crime. He says he investigates between 10 and 20 human trafficking cases every year.
Police said that the guitar was used by the Nejloveanu pair to beat some of their victims while the knife was used to make threats.
As I traced the origin of Marius and Bogdan Nejloveanu's offence, I was struck by how widespread human trafficking is and how common it is for offenders to traffick their own family members.
Romulus Ungureanu leads Romania's fight against trafficking as Director of the National Agency Against Human Trafficking.
"More than 80% of the victims being trafficked, they've reported on the way back that their recruiter was someone that they knew before or that they've met through a friend or a member of the family," Ungureanu says.
It may seem hard to comprehend how someone could enslave a friend or family member, but for some who rehabilitate victims of trafficking, the reason is straight-forward.
Iana Matei runs a safe house for girls who have been trafficked for sex.
"Traffickers simply don't feel they are doing anything wrong," Matei says. "Money is their God and worth making compromises for – so long as they are making money, it doesn't matter how they do it."
And so long as there is money to be made, trafficking is showing no signs of slowing down. "At the moment the biggest illegal trade in the world is drugs and number 2 is human trafficking," says Andrew Wallis, the head of anti-trafficking charity, UnseenUK.
"Everybody says that within five years it will be the biggest illegal trade in the world and the reason for that is with trafficking you have repeat business," he said. "So you can sell a person again and again and again and one woman can make up to £100,000 to £200,000 a year [approx. $170,000 – $270,000 a year], Wallis said.
The United Nations has called Romania "a hot spot" source of trafficking victims. The country's Anti-Trafficking Agency identified 1,154 victims in 2010 – an increase on the number in 2009 following a steady fall in the total for the 5 years before.
Although statistics can tell part of the story, Ungureanu cautions against becoming lost in them.
"This type of crime is a living type of crime and it is very important for everybody to understand that behind each number there is actually a name, a life story, there is a person," he says.
For Ungureanu, one of those names is Mirela Buju.
In 2009, at the age of 26, she was bought, sold for sex, murdered and left in a cellar by one of Romania's most notorious human traffickers, Armand Ceanac. Ceanac's mother and brother were also convicted for human trafficking.
Ceanac is serving a 25 year sentence – the longest in Romania for a crime related to human trafficking.
Giugiu Prison, a maximum security facility outside of Bucharest, holds about 1,650 prisoners, the highest number in Romania.
"I paid fifty dollars for her and took her to my home," Ceanac recalls from within Giugiu, a maximum security prison outside of Bucharest, where prison officials allow him to meet with CNN.
"One time I had a fight with her, I hit her and then I slept with her and the next morning she didn't wake up. Later on she died."
"I'm not just sorry," the 29-year-old Ceanac went on to say. "I would give my life to turn back time and bring her back. I wanted to be a wise guy but I completely failed. It was the greatest mistake of my life."
For Iana Matei, one of the names behind the numbers is Marcela.
Trafficked when she was 15, Marciela died from cancer of the uterus when she was 18.
Iana Matei says the doctors determined Marcela developed cancer after her traffickers repeatedly made her push a sponge into her vagina after each time she had sex.
"The worst part of it was at the end, when it was very clear that she was going to die, sometimes she was the one saying 'don't cry, maybe that was my fate,' and I think that this is what makes me so angry because I don't think that there is a fate who says that a child has to be born and basically used until it is broken and then dies," Matei said.
Marcela's picture sits on Iana Matei's desk and inspires her to ensure that no other girl suffers the same fate.
Matei isn't prepared to take any chances. She installed security cameras in the safe house to protect the girls from the traffickers, each other and even themselves. Post-traumatic stress has led to frequent suicide attempts, Matei says.
In 2008 Matei worked on one case in which all the girls involved in a sex trafficking ring in the city of Pitesti were rescued and slowly, but surely, are being rehabilitated.
One of the girls, who wished to remain anonymous described her experiences in captivity. "I saw one of them removing the eye of a girl because she wasn't making enough money," the girl said. "Another time I saw them cut another girl's leg. They were all afraid to run away or tell the police. When they weren't happy with us, they took us away into a house and tortured us."
After three months of research on this story, we found the term human trafficking fails to convey the horror of what victims like Mirela Buju or Marcela go through. It fails to convey the brutality inflicted by people like Armand Ceanac or Marius and Bogdan Nejloveanu.
"It's modern day slavery," Andrew Wallis says. "A couple of years ago we celebrated the end of the trans-Atlantic slave trade but slavery exists today.
The UN estimates up to 800,000 people a year are sold into slavery – these slaves have no rights, they are used and abused and exist only to make money for their owners."
- Jonathan Wald is a producer based at CNN’s London bureau. Dan Rivers and Cosmin Stan contributed to this report
It's really quite shocking that so few people seem aware of human trafficking. I think I became acutely aware of it on my first trip abroad. On an Air France bus on the way from CDG to Paris there was a video about sex tourism and how countries were banding together to stop it and imprison offenders. That same night a man approached me when I was alone on a Paris street at night and eventually tried to get me into his car to drive me back to my hotel. Of course I fled. A couple years later, I moved to Paris. I was soon really shocked by the sheer volume of beggars on the metro trains, the train stations, the streets.... I wondered why there were so many foreign beggars....most were not French. I soon learned about human trafficking. I saw this PSA from the UN and it really made me start to pay attention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_lduB6bQc
It's stock me !
Please describe the foreign beggars. Were they unemployed men willing to work for food?
Roma's are scum, all of them. Sarkozy already took action to get rid of loots of them. Everywhere in Europe they are a problem.
There is a general misconception about Roma and Romanians. They are NOT THE SAME thing, don't make the error, this has caused the spread of this error and injustices for the Romanian people!
Hitler said the same things about the Roma population (i.e. gypsies, and NOT Romanians) and exterminated them like a hobby. Look at yourself before calling another human being "scum".
When I read your post I think: racist, nationalistic illiterate.
Amazing, how when the Catholic Church tells you to hate someone, you robotically choose to hate them and never see reason.
Those people who are incessantly called scum, then behave as is expected.
Meanwhile, I've NEVER had problems with ANY Roma.
So, with no due respect, sir, YOU are the scum. Your mother is scum. Your father is scum. Your sisters and brothers are scum. All because nobody raised to you to be an honorable person.
That type of racist comment cannot be tolerated. The blind hatred for other cultures is shocking. The world has made a lot of progress from such intolerance but some are still behind. Education and awareness of the world as a whole is the answer.
The ones who is blaming the Catholic Church for the hate is no better than the one hating the Romas. I've never heard the Church say to hate anything but evil.
Epic troll bro, epic.
yes,it is.
I could not say it better and more elegantly than Mr Wzrd1. Fully agree 100%!!!
They are scum, and all you people saying otherwise have never even seen one.
You probably know lots of them.... No serious, I think you no not one personaly.
@palebunnycrusader: I say otherwise, and I work on a daily basis with over 2000 of 'them'. So I've seen 'them'. I am a missionary in Pitesti. You bet I know 'them'. Nice people. And you, what's your "headcount"? Ever seen 'one' live?
Sir, you are using whole nation of people and saying they are criminals...You sir are a Nazi....like thinker and very wrong...when you sey comments like yours refer to individuals and not nations...of people
Edi, Bosnia and Herz.
Its shocking , and that same thing its still happening more often in Africa they promise u that they are gonna pay for your ticket n will also get u a Visa the fact that u don't have any money and you would give anything to get out of Africa u just take the oppotunity which is there cos it happens once in a life time.
Thats what happens in poor countries , i wish i pray that all those things would stop happening to human being.
I wish all the people in 3rd would countries would be able to provide for them selves and be able to say No to anything.
I don't think wishing or praying is going to stop it.... We all, including myself, must get involved and help change it.
We had a contractor when I was deploying to Djibouti that was handed over to the local authorities for human trafficing. To the best of my knowledge, he's been there two years and can expect to remain there in the Djiboutian prison for a LONG, LONG time.
When I was asked what I thought of it, I replied; "Good."
The sad part is that these people would be out of business in no time if they had no buyers.......But they have buyers, other sick men and these animals continue to hurt young girls.
this is disquisty that his mother thinks he is innocent of all people you would thind she would want this kinda thing to stop happening and simpathize with the woman being one herself
Please donate to freetheslaves, they have raided many slave rings, they also buy slaves to free them.
I think they have freed over 200,000 slaves so far. May peace surround us all.
It is everywhere, there are many in the United States, right under our noses.
They are too frightened to run away.
Seems the only ones who dont know about it are the VICTIMS that are still getting pulled into it with promises.
I don't think this is shocking at all, especially the accused being Romanians. I am Romanian myself and the disgust I have towards these type of Romanians doesn't shock me. The whole country was brought up on corruption and scandolous governing so why would it shock ANYONE ? Most likely these people are gypsies, my opinion becuase of the fathers features, and this is all they do. It's disturbing but not shocking.
These criminals could be any race or nationality. If these criminals are Romanian citizens, then they are Romanian regardless of their race!!! Join the 20th century! In Canada, if a Canadian committed a crime in another country, they are in the newspapers as Canadian citizen...not African, European, etc. Further stories may mention their race but it is not the norm.
oh c'mon Bevlin, I'm Canadian, and you know as well as I do they always mention the race, "native Canadian", "Inuit", etc. Who are you trying to kid?
I know all about the racism with the native population in Canada and you are correct in that they usually do say "native" in the newspapers! But what I said was...if a Canadian committed a crime in another country, they say Canadian. You know that statement is correct! If we want to find out if "this Canadian" was a certain race or religion, we normally have to search a few articles.
I know few Romanians in Canada, most came here as illegal immigrants, they think they are too smart infact they are so dumb and stupid..especialy the men..romania is all corrupt..people, government and country
You wrote "one woman can make up to £100,000 to £200,000 a year [approx. $170,000 – $270,000 a year]." But, let's be clear. The woman makes nothing. The slave owner can make that much off of the life of another human being. That's what slave owners do. They work their captives to death for money.
Mike, thanks, but I think most of us figured that out for ourselves. duhhhhh!
OK, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS AND ALSO THIS VIDEO CONTENT,NONE OF THEM POINTING THE TRUTH !! THE SAD TRUTH THAT NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR AND TO ACCEPT THAT ALL THESE GIRLS ARE NOT SLAVES AND ARE NOT TRAFFICKED !! THIS IS A COVER UP STORY TO LOOK GOOD FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!! ALL THESE GIRLS WHICH ARE GOING FOR PROSTITUTION, THEY KNOW FROM THE START WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO AND THAT IS TO SELL THEIR BODIES FOR MONEY AND AS WELL THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL SHARE THE MONEY WITH THEIR PIMP OR 'PROTECTOR' !!!!! NO PERSON IS CROSSING A BORDER WITHOUT HER OR HIS ACCEPTANCE !!! ROMANIA IS NOT THE BLACK SHEEP OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING,THERE ARE A LOT OF INTELLECTUALS, IT IS BASED ON 2000 YEARS OF HISTORY AND ROMANIA HAS A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL THINGS TO SHOW TO EVERYBODY...DON'T ALWAYS SHOW JUST THE DEEP MISERABLE PART OF ONE'S COUNTRY..THERE ARE ENOUGH CRACK HEADS, PSYCHOPATHS WHO KILL PEOPLE ON THE STREETS,DRUG DEALERS WHO ARE SELLING DRUGS TO KIDS IN SCHOOLS, FAGOTS AND PROSTITUTES,BANKS WHO KICK FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN OUT ON THE STREETS IN WINTER FOR ONE PAST DUE PAYMENT, THAT DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO POINT THE FINGER TO THE OTHER COUNTRIES WHICH ARE MORE NORMAL AND HEALTHIER IN MULTIPLE WAYS THAN USA !!
While you are right that US also has such problems, you are wrong to say that the girls know what they are getting into. If they just wanted to be prostitutes, they would just advertise on the internet or something. These girls do not know that they will be enslaved, beaten daily, and that they won't actually get any of their money.
Of course Romania is a beautiful country with many nice things about it. But it is also one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
Slow down on the Kool-Aid.
And as for your entire post... No.
HEY aren't you that dude's BROTHER ? You are a liar, a 1,000% liar. I guess 15 year old girls KNOW that they are going to go to another country, have their passport taken, be held against their will in some room while men rape them all day long and the money is given to the scums like you. That's slavery jerk !! It's disgusting and filthy. If a girl wanted to be a prostitute she wouldn't need any HELP from the likes of you.
You sound like the Westboro Baptist "church." Full of hate, lies and misinterpretations of the Truth.
You REALLY don't sound good! You sound like an uneducated biased bawdy beef-headed harpy! You OBVIOUSLY didn't read the article properly and checkout their facts. By the way sir, you have atrocious grammar.
What amazes me even more is that people don't realize how much of this is going on in the US. Most massage parlors, especially Asian ones, have women that have been trafficked. I'm pretty sure that almost every block in a US city has trafficked women. And of course pimping in general, while not always exactly trafficking, works in much the same way - women who can't leave due to fear, forced narcotics use, and perception of a monetary debt.
While to those of us with self-esteem, it seems unbelievable that these women just wouldn't escape and get help, many of them were enslaved at a young age before they knew how the world works, many are from foreign countries where police and social services are unavailable or not to be trusted, most have self-esteem issues, and most have drug addictions.
Anyway, I guarantee there are enslaved girls in every urban and suburban neighborhood. Those in suburbs shouldn't be smug, as I've seen a lot of prostitution operations using nice suburban homes.
I do hope awareness and then actual police and judicial action is taken to at least try to eradicate this in the US.
You actually had to travel abroad to realize this? Apple Computers uses child slave labor to make its iPads, iPhones, and iPods. Because of the high suicide rate at its factories Apple releases a report every year stating how much child labor it uses, the pollution, and the overworked underpaid employees. Every year Apple says its doing something about this, yet every year they use the same factories and publish the same reports. When the clothing industry did this in the early 90s people went into an uproar, Apple has been doing this for years and no one seems to care. iPad: made by Chinese kids for American kids.
Really sad and disgusting way to make a living by ruining other peoples lives. There MUST be stiffer consequences for people involved in any way shape or form with human trafficking.
There are NO excuses. If I were a judge, I would slap a life sentence to each person involved in trafficking with no possibility of parole; confiscate all their assets and use that money to save and rehabilitate these young women (period)
agreed
Better yet, he should suffer the same fate and be gang raped repeatedly for the whole sentence. See how he likes it. If word got out that was the punishment for sex slavery traffickers, you can bet they'd think twice before getting into that business.
I agree with you mate. They should be treated in the same manner, or worse for what they have done and made example of so it'll deter others.
Much as it sounds just (eye for eye etc.) what of the people who are supposed to execute the gang rape?
Not practical or executable imo.
I think you need to be educated about gang rape by ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER. I bet you would change your perverted tune awful quickly.
Oh, yeah, gang rape as punishment is a practice among the Taliban. Only for people who deserve it, of course. [My tone is meant to be ironic. I do not actually think it is a good idea or that the punished deserve it.]
In the words of Gandhi, "An Eye for an Eye makes Whole World Blind"
I think these people should just be sentenced to death instead of a life sentence. They'd just be wasting tax payers' money. Imagine having to feed these inhumane creatures in jail, knowing all too well what they did to human beings. They have already killed these girls by selling them as cargo, so many lives have been lost and destroyed due to these scumbags. I say skip the jail sentence, shoot them in their balls and hang them.
The thing that keeps these sex trafficking rings going isn't merely failure of judicial process or governmental intervention, but the fact that there's a demand. A HUGE demand. My friend is a part of IJM, and he's seen firsthand a "sex town" in Thailand, where luxury buses open their doors in front of "hotels" filled with slave prostitutes as young as THREE years old, and spilling out of the buses are men in expensive business suits... from S.Korea, Japan, China, Australia, Europe, the US... Why aren't THESE MEN arrested and prosecuted?
It sickens me to know that there are these men who seek prostitutes out. But how did they get there? Was it their aim to become a scumbag who cheats on his wife and kids and seeks out cheap thrills? No, it began with the overabundance of "abnormal" thrills (i.e. fake, fantastical) that come in the form of pornography, which now easily includes children. I can say this with confidence because my ex-brother-in-law is one of them, who went from porn to prostitutes as soon as there were some tough bumps in his marriage to my sister.
So what we need to do as a society is STOP PORNOGRAPHY, humiliate those who indulge in it (not merely those who produce it), and punish those who BUY sex, not just those who sell it!!! IF THERE'S NO DEMAND, THERE'S NO PROFIT.
Sure, the pimps and traffickers will only find some other sick way to make money, but should that be a reason to NOT stop the sex trade? And sure there's going to be those who cry out "freedom of speech!!" but of course they'll value that (which i very much value as well) MORE than stopping egregious evils. Sigh.
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BuLL$Hit1! There is NO correlation between Porn and Slavery !!!
I've been enjoying porn for 20 years now, and i have never once had sex with a slave. There's a term for the type of argument you are using. It's called the slippery slope fallacy of logic. Take your Christian and/or feminist rhetoric elsewhere.
Amen sista!!
BigMan: I don't think you know much about the porn industry or sex trafficking. A large portion of the workforce in the foreign (and some case Domestic) porn industry comprises of "actors", who were illegally trafficked from impoverished countries. Germany, for example, is trying to tackle human trafficking in its porn industry as the Russian mob imports them in hundreds every year. I can give you a lot more examples.
Debbie....stop being a moral police! Porn is not immoral. Sex slavery, child porn, etc. are appalling and illegal. We need to tackle those issues, instead of banning porn. This is not Saudi Arabia.
It seems awefully silly to compare a voluntary act to an involuntary act. Watching or creating porn is not even close to the same realm as what these people have gone through, and frankly, it's insulting to them that you claim it is. Shame on you.
Wow. What an utter load of malarky. Just because you don't like porn, you try and dry an inaccurate analogy between porn and slavery. ACTUALLY, porn seems to LESSEN incidents of rape!
I bet the same goes for prostitution, but I doubt Puritanical, self-righteous a-holes like you will ever let it happen.
It is just as silly to blame porn solely for human slavery, as it is to dismiss it completely people. I'm sure porn does lead some people to seek out these thrills with real people, whether they're willing or not, just like i'm sure there are those that would never dream of going past the visual aspect of porn.
Also, don't be so niave to think that there are no sex slaves in porn or brothels. Pimps and scum like this will take any opportunity to get money (obviously), nor should anyone believe that everyone in the porn industry is forced into it. Some enjoy the perks of their job shall we say. On going investigations into human slave tips is the only thing that can be done to stop people like these scum bags.
Your lameness has won you a personal visit with ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER for some re-grooving. He will begin with your forehead I am sure.
Scapegoat and others who say there is no connection between sexual slavery and porm – who do you think most of the porn actors are? Yes, some are paid volunteers but many are sexual slaves. Your porn-viewing helps the sex trafficking just like smoking pot helps drug cartels in Mexico.
Porn can be an addictive form of sexual slavery that has to capacity to lower self esteem. As for anyone who abuses children for their own sexual gratification: May you be eaten alive by rolly pollys.
Well I have news for you... Your brother in law was gonna cheat with or without porn... Is your sister as "self righteous" and ridgid as you? Hmmmmm? I feel like cheating on you right now!
Pat-San Jose Ca. I would like to know am I supporting Mexican drug cartel if I buy my Marijuana from a legal CA clinic where all the growers are checked out and highly regulated?
1) Porn might have an effect on the rape rate, but this may differ by nation. An increase in porn has been negatively correlated to cases of rape in some developing nations, but the correlation may be due to internet access which itself is correlated with higher economic development. That is to say, a lack of internet access can be indicative of poverty which is commonly correlated with social problems such as rape. Because of this, I doubt porn use actually reduces cases of rape.
2) In developed nations such as the United States there is a general commonplace that porn leads men to prostitution. First, prostitution far outdates porn, so porn can hardly be said to cause prostitution. Second, the logic of "porn to prostitution" is statistically problematic. The assumption behind the "porn to prostitution" concept is that porn users either require anonymity or are simply unattractive, making prostitutes the next logical step. However, nearly everyone uses porn at least some of the time. If porn is a constant in the US then shouldn't all men use prostitutes? Although we could further investigate differences among low and high porn usership and prostitution, life experience tells me that hypersexual men tend to use all avenues of sexual release. If high porn usership and prostitution are highly correlated, I would argue that the majority of the effect would probably be due to hypersexuality. Porn can act as part of the prostitution process for some men, but I doubt that porn generally leads men to the street corner.
3) Of course, this discussion does not take kinds of porn into account. Some porn seems almost benign such that a man and a woman simply have intercourse. There are many other kinds of porn that can be said to objectify women in a degrading and violent manner. A prominent recent example is Brazzers' addition of a "punishment" series where women are "punished" by sex. Although this is consensual and there are laws against actual bodily harm in porn, the degrading videos encourage the notion that sex is an acceptable outlet for anger.
debbie, you are looney tunes. You can watch a movie about a serial killer without wanting to go an kill people. You can watch a movie about drug addicts with wanting to go and do drugs. And yes, you can watch a non-traditional porn movie without wanting to actually perform those acts on another.
Porn is not the problem. Prostitution is not actually the problem either. Its slavery. If a woman wants to sell her body, I say more power to her. If a woman is forced to sell her body, then those doing the forcing need to be arrested and slapped with a lengthy prison sentence and major fines and seizure of assets.
You have it backwards. Pornography has never been shown to -cause- this behaviour, it is simply co-existent with it. Men don't become rapists after viewing pornography, they already had that mindset. Show me any legitimate research that proves pornography leads to sex slavery. It's all in your mind.
Seeing may be believing, but what your friend saw may well have been children of the prostitutes, and he evidently allowed his own suspicions to taint his perceptions of what he saw.
It is my understanding that sex is an industry in certain areas in Thailand, but the Thai Government would probably not permit prostitution of three year olds under any conditions, anywhere. Believe it or not, Thailand is in some ways a very puritanical country, and one of the reasons why prostitution is permitted under certain limited conditions in limited areas, is to protect the females in the other 99% of the country. The strategy is to divert the flow of the demand for this to certain limited tourist destinations, and to create a source of foreign exchange – and economically, this has worked well for Thailand, although the exploited individuals who are involved in this certainly are insidiously and violently enslaved, in many if not most cases.
Many countries which are today economic success stories started out by using their economic comparative advantage in this "industry", because they had nothing else – it was either to resort to this extreme measure, or die on the vine. (One US State follows the same pattern of economic development: Nevada!).
The fact is, prostitution in all its worst and most involuntary and compulsive forms is directly related in all of its root causes to some sort of educational deficit or short-circuiting of educational opportunities – not only for girls, but for boys too.
A generation of educated and highly employable girls whose contemporaries are relatively uneducated and unemployable cast-off boys is a generation of girls (and boys) who will gravitate toward prostitution, and that is what we have had for some time in America and other prosperous countries influenced by the American feminist-misanthropist ideal . As the American educational picture continues to rapidly decline and deteriorate, we can expect the world center of female exploitation to gravitate increasingly to the cities, slums and small towns of America and similar nations. This is an ironic unintended consequence of the feminist iron grip on American government, education and news organizations.
I feel Debbie is absolutely right on the dot with this. Porn straight up fuels sexual addiction. Porn is filthy, sleazy, gross, and is a bottomless pit of addiction. Pornography is addictive. It encapsulates the user. I can't believe how many of you have defended Pornography just now. Unbelievable.
This is actually accurate in the sense that many of those who are filmed in pornographic films, photographed and so on are forced into it. Strip clubs, massage parlors and pornographers all use those who have been enslaved or trafficked in their films. So yea, the pornography industry has a lot to do with human trafficking since the victims are often the same people.
We Romanians are good people but the people that make us look bad are the gypsies who live in our country, so mentioned here on cnn.com about the trafficking of sex slaves. I am a US Citizen born here and so is my wife and we are 1st generation Romanians in America. Our parents were born in Romania and we have been there every year since 1988, before the communist regime fell. All I can say is that these dirty MOTHER F**KERS ruin it all for our country, and it has come to a point where i'm sick of it. ROMANIANS are not bad people....THE F**KING GYPSIES who live in our country are the dirtbags.
If they got over their extreme intolerance, they would be good people but the hatred they are taught and continue to teach their children is dispicable. Instead of blaming others, pay attention to the story! It is about human trafficking and sexual slavery, not about Romainians. The criminals just happen to be Romainian. If they were from the Ukraine, the story would have said that but they are from Romainia. I shouldn't say it ...but...I am glad you chose the US and did not come to Canada.
Mikey... you're not a good person, you are one of the type that causes problems. You're as racist as they come pal.
Mikey you are a typical romanian idiot..who looks down on other people.. look at yoursefl first.. you are a scum..look at your romania is full of loser men and hookers thats what your country is capable of..most romanian men I have known are just idiots who somehow come to north america by illegal means..
This is one of the very FEW crimes that I would advocate forced hard labor for the remainder of their natural lives.
WITH full forfeiture of all assets and properties, to be used in rehabilitation of the victims AND restitution to the victims.
Even if it leaves the trafficer's family homeless.
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS??? DOES THE ROMANIAN GOVERNMENT IS DOING ANYTHING TO STOP ALL THIS BULLSHIT EVILS????? SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alas! What do you expect? Did you check the level of corruption in Romania? The way they treat orphans and handicapped children? I agree with kmccab above: they also export "beggars" and the gypsies they do not want to keep. That Romania is a member of the EU is mind boggling!
you look only to one side of the story, the origin of the "slaves". how about looking at the "consumers"? you blame Romanian government for this, yet most of the time this girls are prostituted in Western Europe. There is more blindness where they are used compared to the places they are taken from.
If the westerners man are so much more evolved, mannered and educated, why is it they need those slaves? if your government is so "professional" why do they allow the exploitation of those humans in your territory?
The basic economy rule: the demand will be met as long as someone is paying. The clients are paying, they are also guilty of using slaves.
I'm from Romania and the romanian government its a joke , they have their own agenda and the people in romania its not in it! Of course the police knows alot about this but its very corrupt and will do nothing to stop it ! I think 80 % of gypsy population in Romania it's doing something illegal and I'm no racist but if you come in Buzescu and see all the gypsy houses you think that all are royalty but have no jobs . From where that money comes ? "That is the question" , Shakespeare said !!
If a certain group of people are rarely given jobs because of their race, then the majority will resort to criminal activities. It doesn't matter what country, it is just a fact. Not only does the Romainian government have to change, so too, do the citizens of the country. I have met a few Romainians and they all have an ingrained hatred for certain cultures, especially the Roma people and Russians...it is surprizing the depth of their emotion (intolerance?).
Well yes, if you don't get a job because you're rroma then you should make it on your own. But it's so much easier to lay around and wait for the government to do something for you, as if the country owes you something; or to steal than to work and they don't just 'resume' to illegal activities. It's a choice. We all have that choice. We could all go out and murder someone for money, but we don't. These 'abilities' that they have are taught from generation to generation, that is their school. It's not us we need to change, it's them that need to change. But they won't, they are ignorant and give a whole lotta S*** about you, me and everybody else that's commenting on here. And yes, it's true, they have palaces!! palaces!!!! down in Buzescu (it's where those two clowns are from) and they were all built by 'works' like prostitution, magic bla bla, singing(aka squealing and whining), begging on the streets of Paris, selling authentic fake designer goods, etc. So while we all sit here and throw stones at them they are comfortably taking a bath in their jaccuzzi, down in Buzescu. And we are racist.
yes Andreea, just as you have been taught to hate from generation to generation. Think about your comment "if they can't get a job, then they should make it on their own", and how are they going to do that with no money, no self-respect, no hope for the future. Of course some resort to crime. Like with all people, there are good and bad...the good cannot break out of the cycle of crime if they are never given the opportunity. Change has to start somewhere, why go on for another 1 or 2 thousand years with the same hatreds, look for solutions..
21 years in prison is too light a sentence for destroying how many lives? It should be life in prison. That is what they have created for their victims. Let the punishment fit the crime.
couldnt agreewithu more
Trust me, it's a very good penalty, you may wonder what would have been the jail time in Romania, a lot less, I assure you, so, actually, I'm glad they were caught and sentenced there and not back in Romania. Here, if you kill someone on the crosswalk, you get not more than a couple of years, 21 years you may get for murder (one) and even then you can get free after 15 or so years. That's a huge problem for this country, punishment should be a lot more harsh, otherwise offenders and criminals are literally encouraged to continue their activities.
I say death sentence works best in this case. They killed these girls the moment they sold them, not to mention the emotional and physical torment these idiots put these girls through. A jail sentence of 20+ years will only mean that they are gonna continue with this trade when they are released into the society. Now maybe even the death sentence is not enough to pay for their crimes.
Anyone who uses another human like that is a devil. They are devils.who will burn in hell, unless they repent. The victims can be delivered by Jesus. He is the only one who can heal and remove all the emotional ans psychological scars.
agreed.
Don't depend on Jesus for your revenge, you'll never see it.
These creeps need to be stopped and punished on THIS PLANET, NOW.
Oh god, another crazy Christian. Let's put away the fairy tales a magic and come up with an actual solution.
This is a heartbreaking story and I am glad that CNN chose to shed light on this archaic practice. Having said that, it was REALLY dissapointing to see all the spelling errors and misstated facts. Sometimes I think CNN doesn't employ editors.
As Usual the Media fails to report that these Men were MUSLIMS!!!!!!
So, what's your inside info that these two are Muslims, given that they have standard Romanian names and that Muslims make up around 0.3% of the population of Romania? If you're going to play "civilizational conflict instigator", then you should point out that these people almost certainly come from a western Christian tradition. However it's most appropriate just to point out that you're a moron.
Try eastern orthodox
To Joe, Easter Orthodox is still Christian. These guys are Gipsy, natives of India. Basescu the current president of Romania was Godfather to one of the biggest Gipsy criminal and sex trafficker Bercea Mondialu and this is all documented and filmed on YouTube, until Romania revolts again and frees itself from the old dictators nothing will change.
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Well said James..his name "IDF" says it all
There is no doubt that human trafficking and prostitution of all types have been on the increase since the 1960's. The question is: what are the real reasons for this increase?
First, during the 1960's and early 1970's, this was a part of the general picture of the way urban crime began to flourish and increase – and there were sex crimes of all types which were black male specialties, ranging from the widespread and almost daily rapes of elderly white women in their homes by black juveniles who were typically in the pre-teen to early teen age range, to the systematic raping and drugging of young suburban schoolgirls by black pimps based in urban neighborhoods – and before you get too politically correct and take this down, these were actual and well-known patterns of crime in the context of black militancy, and Eldridge Cleaver actually brags about this in his book, Soul On Ice.
Secondly, there has been a definite blurring of traditional values since the late 1960's, on all fronts. At that time, the way to sell something was by shock value – if you weren't pushing the envelope past the point of acceptability, you weren't properly marketing your product. College campuses, which were once strictly governed in accordance with curfews and gender segregation, went co-ed. Women started to become the majority of college students nationwide. One downside to this was the fact that as the cost of tuition began to increase inexorably, an increasing number of female students took to side jobs to finance their education, and an increasing number of male college professors would cynically wine and dine female students, and then drop them cold.
Thirdly, we have had a drastic increase in the number of divorces, and in the punishment by judicial "gallantry" of men who either want to get married, or who have been married. Thus even if prostitution is against the law, the punishment by law which men are likely to encounter as a result of patronizing prostitutes, is far less severe than the punishment men are likely to encounter for falling in love with a female, or attempting to initiate a long-term relationship with a female, or for attempting to marry her or actually tying the knot – which increasingly looks like a noose to most single men. If there are two alternatives, and one of them is signing away all your legal rights as an American and a human being, and the other choice is equivalent to a traffic ticket, which one are most men more likely to choose if they are thinking rationally?
Fourthly, one of the most widespread forms of procurement is priestly abuse within the context of the Roman Catholic Church, and within some others which have priestly orders. The public has tended to withdraw its support for schools and churches which have been plagued by this abuse, but the Catholic public can do more in America. It can demand the end of priestly celibacy, and support an alternative in which priests may be married – either to a female or someone of the same gender. For almost 2,000 years, this same undercurrent of procurement has been a hidden aspect of the Catholic Church. The Lollards in England mentioned this in their literature, and were burned at the stake for telling the truth which dared not be told. Today there is probably a witch hunt which is affecting some innocent priests as well. Only by promoting a structure of openness and honesty can the Catholic Church stop this excessiveness in both directions, undergo a second reformation, directed from within, and aimed at exorcising this ancient demon. It is common sense that any religion should be a force for morality and honesty and for promoting social co-operation, and not a force for institutionalizing the hidden exploitation of children and the violent disillusionment of its own devotees. Again, the Catholic Church has been most prominent in news headlines regarding this form of childhood procurement and enslavement, but it is by no means the only religion or cult involved in this sordid pattern of crime. It is one thing for any religion to educate people on the topic of love and marriage, or to mention or discuss it – but when it comes to using religion as a foil for enforcing an illegal physical relationship or compelling people toward underage de facto or de jure marriages – whether temporary or permanent, that is simply racketeering; and the religious leadership ought to strongly repudiate all such activity and not try to muddy the waters or whisper, when they should be roaring against it with hellfire and brimstone.
Fifthly, the feminist movement is a hate movement which is especially misanthropic toward non-elitist white males who are neither professional athletes nor same-gender oriented – and that encompasses at least 85% of the adult male population in America. One of the unintended but inevitable consequences of feminism is the fact that it is cattle-chuting and driving this dynamic and demonized population of over 100 million men away from traditional marriage and courtship, and toward nontraditional and less stable stopgap forms of social relationships, such as situational homosexuality, Don Juan promiscuity, celibacy (which is extremely damaging to men and actually socially destructive, since the single men most likely to be celibate are the most intelligent in today's America) and procurative forms of relationships with females which feminists would view as backlash exploitativeness, but which men view as simply trying to re-establish a norm which is less misanthropic and which allows men some island of fair degree of control within the overwhelming feminist rip tide which is destroying so many men, and also casting adrift the good women who need them. One of those procurative types of relationships – in fact the most common form – is indoor prostitution.
In this type of relationship, the man thinks he has some bargaining power, whereas in marriage as redefined by trial lawyers and feminists, the man has no bargaining power unless he's a ne'er do well who has married well, or unless he's a billionaire who has lawyers and bodyguards at his beck and call, and doesn't have to worry about losing a major portion of his wealth or his home.
There is a solution to this horrifying human tragedy of kidnapping and exploitative enslavement of girls – which is what this is. (Feminists tried to apply this description to traditional marriage, and in making such false analogies about marriage, and also about men, saying that "all men are rapists" and describing every male-female bonding interaction as rape – and in doing so, feminists with their negativism created a self-fulfilling prophecy).
The solution is this:
The law in America must STOP PUNISHING MEN for being married, for performing the typical male role in marriage as husbands and fathers, for non-violent courtship, for communicating, and for simply being who they are, and for all sorts of normal male behavior which is affectionate, concerned, and loving, and in no way would be demonized or prosecuted in any other country. The law must not continue to criminalize heterosexuality as it continues on the path to legalize same-gender marriage.
Furthermore, investigations of child labor must be undercover, must be relentless, must be multicultural in nature, and must under no circumstances prosecute citizens who report suspected child labor abuse. Up to 90% of the most exploitative forms of prostitution involve underage females who have a foreign connection which is either social, or financial, or both. Any policeman or judge or attorney or bureaucrat who conspires to obstruct justice in any child-labor investigative context ought to face felony charges and imprisonment.
Finally, the law must stop its draconian, accelerating criminalization of relationships between males and females based on the arbitrary factor of age differences (it used to be race. Now the segregators are extending their bigotry down the time line, instead of across the color line). If these relationships are not harmful, secretive or violent, they are in all likelihood protective and caring relationships which are of great benefit to society, notwithstanding the fact that feminists portray these relationships as offensive to basic decency – unless and until they are the senior partner in them.
Finally, the age of consent and the age of marriage eligibility in America ought to be synchronized with common sense and biology. The same laws which criminalize and blacken the names of older majority men who have simply fallen in love normally in a country which has forgotten all meanings of tolerance which don't agree with political correctness, or which tends to regiment love in some way which is incompatible with straight male biology, are not laws which protect the virtue of younger females, despite what you may believe. These laws actually drive girls toward promiscuity at an increasingly younger age, and protect younger males for behaving irresponsibly – after all, if age (and majority ethnic status) is a vice, then youth (and minority male status) must be some sort of virtue, right?. The same public schools which sell this devaluation of all values to their young, impressionable students, are also in the forefront of vaccinating girls as young as the age of 9 against STD's. You may not see the connection, but I do. By discouraging marriage between couples in which the man is much older, our legal system is needlessly ruining men who could make good, protective husbands (and who were net taxpayers – turning these men into economic liabilites!), and promoting the joyful sex lives of men who in no way will ever make a good husband for any female – thus shepherding these unfortunate females away from a future with a responsible husband, and toward a future of not being cared for at all except in the most pedestrian way.
You may not like these ideas for curtailing the growing problem of the violent crime of prostitution through racketeering, but don't let your distaste for the right medicine discourage you from curing your disease, America. Instead, wake up and follow the doctor's orders. Either that, or let the doctor move on to another patient who won't waste his time.
Executive summary please.ep
LOL.
Seriously. I stopped reading after the first sentence.
Executive summery is as follows:
It is the fault of the blacks, jews, feminists, judges, liberals, youths, colleges, media and I think, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir or something.
The ONLY manifesto that I've seen that was AS rambling and nonsensical was Jared Loughner's Government Mind Control By Control of Grammar.
THIS is what happens when a child is wet nursed by its father.
tl;dr
You, Sally Li, need some help.
This whole post is just insane and that internalised misogyny looks pretty intense.
You speak of people and things that you don't know about, and one of those was me. You don't know me at all. I speak of what I know, through firsthand experience and knowledge. What I am doing is offering a solution to a problem which results in ruined lives and deaths by the thousands, around the world – EVERY MONTH! What you want to do is stand in the way of a solution, by offering nothing of value except obstruction. Get out of the way, or be known for what you are doing, which is reprehensible and cowardly.
Sally, sorry kid, but I'm with mog. You require professional mental health assistance. DO get it soon, before you do something you cannot take back.
Yeah, Sally, you're quite out there. Aside from the Catholic priest problem (and even there you got some facts wrong), you're pretty much talking out of your other end.
Well, everything was okay until you dropped back to the floor by saying "even marrying the same gender" – We were created and it was meant to be Adam and Eve and NOT Adam and steve.
They've done this in a way that is secretive and harmful to kids, in a cycle of abuse, for the past two thousand years. I'm not condoning the behavior. But it is unrealistic to think that the problem can be solved by ignoring it and tiptoeing around it with cliches such as "that ain't the way it's supposed to be". Priestly celibacy has been a cover for same sex relationships and for child abuse, and that is a fact. What I am saying is that the Catholic Church needs to deal with these human beings in a way which is realistic and which protects people who would otherwise be victimized by their institutionalized hypocrisy. God may not have created Adam and Steve, but the Bible certainly relates the story of David and Jonathan as heroic. And it was King Saul, who was absolutely the villain in this story, who condemned their behavior. You can't get right with God by being on the wrong side of your fellow man.
Sure it was, keep telling yourself that. Won't make it true, but at least you'll feel all right, no matter how your ignorant views oppress others...
Thanks for contributing your opinion. I appreciated that you made an attempt to raise, and discuss the larger underlying cultural issues that you see in trying to find a solution to the issue of slavery and sexual exploitation. The article did not touch upon the issues of culture, or economic realities in a meaningful way and these certainly contribute to the issue of slavery. I would be interested to see if there is a shift in the numbers of men who pay for sex historically in the US/Europe and also how cultural views can be shifted in places like china or romania. The article says there are more slaves and adjusts the amount paid for slaves but does not also compare the overall percentage of slaves now to two hundred years ago.
You notice that none of my critics actually take issue with my use of facts or logic. They can't, because I am right. Instead, they resort to namecalling and throwing mud, because they know they cannot top my arguments with facts or untainted logic. You will also notice that I am taking on some very powerful political sacred cows here.
As to the people who dare to attack my character, they call me a racist – yet I am raising the issue of black male crime against females, and this is a major presence in America. Eldridge Cleaver, who I made a point of mentioning, is a black man, one of the Black Panthers. FBI Uniform Crime Reports will clearly show that about half the rapes in America which occur outside prisons are committed by black males. This information is culled from victim reports, as are the other crimes I mentioned. I guess these victims are all racists, right? My friend, the typical black female is shadowed by this danger as she grows up and tries to obtain opportunities. So, too, are many sensitive and intelligent black males, It is not racist to state the fact that a culture of black male crime exists – the US Government acknowledges this fact. It is a form of advocacy for the overwhelming majority of black Americans and Asian Americans, and the large number of others who are victimized by it. The number one civil rights issue in America is the fact that most crime in America is black on black crime, and liberal judges have been enablers in this context. Prostitution and forced slavery in America was once primarily brought to you by the black pimp – a well- known figure in modern American folklore. This black dominance in prostitution is no longer the case. Obviously, foreign operators have eclipsed this earlier trend which was predominant in the 1960's until the 1980's.
I do not advocate marriage of young girls as a standard practice; although I will point out to you that if you open your eyes, and look at the World Almanac in any given year, you will find a page entitled MARRIAGE LAWS. As of July 1996, the minimum age for females in Massachusetts with parental consent or permission of a judge was 12, and perhaps still is. Most State legislators allowed for rare exceptions to the general trend of female marriage in the late teens to early 20's. I suppose the people who are hurling mud at me would like to write poison pen letters to the legislators in all 50 states, and telling them that they are "sick", for allowing precocious marriage in exceptional cases . But I have an idea: Let's do what the feminists seem to want. Let's raise the age of consent and the minimum age for marriage to about 25, and we'll lock up any male who even looks at a female below that age, unless he is in the same age group. What would be the result? Prostitution and sneaking promiscuity would be the rule, and marriage and virtue would be the rare exception. And this is the direction we are moving toward today.
I notice that among my critics, one claimed that I "blamed . . . Jews (and others). There is no anti-Semitism in any statement of mine. There is no blaming of "youth", but compassion for everyone in what I say. None of my critics are offering any viable or believable solutions of their own, and they don't seem to want this problem to be solved in any way. They want to attack people who are trying to do something good, and to tell the truth.
Go ahead, mudslingers. Live in your society of mud-caked censorship via political correctness. But don't dare throw mud at a marble wall.
To Sally Li:
Stop making statistics up.
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_43.html
You are right, of course. But simply put, it's all about the human nature which we chose to ignore for the past at least 2000
years- we have enacted laws that are against the biological rhythms of this species, hence the schizophrenic societies and its criminal tendencies...
Oh boy are you seriously messed up or what?
You sound like a racist, misogynist pedophile. What age, pray tell, do you think girls should be allowed to marry a "much older man"? If it's based on biology, that means 12 for many girls. That's sick, and that's the kind of laws that are in place in the most backward countries. And being a feminist doesn't mean hating men. It means supporting laws that preserve women's rights...and protecting girls from men like you.
So....what's the TL:DR version?
@Alex you actually read one sentence??
You have to much time on your hands...
Sally Li, you have way to much time on your hands
I quite agree!
Oh my. Lots of hate and blame here. Have you spoken with a professional about this?
May God save us.The end is near.
you're right
It is near but nobody wants to believe it until it does happen ... just like in Noah's days with a world flood but this time with fire. Same as with the flood, all religious arguments will then become academic.
Tell its lazy butt to bring it. Go ahead, end the world. I F'ING DARE YOU GOD!!!!
Shall I hold my breath......?
Do you also believe in Jack and the Giant Beanstalk?
May the End save us because God is here...and She's in a mood.
So, let me get this straight. Two guys bring girls to London from Romania. Because they comes from Romania (an EU country), for all practical purposes the girls can stay in the UK and work without a permit (though technically from Romania the situation is slightly more complex). These girls work in London, where they are never further than, say, 1 kilometer from the police, a tube station, the Romanian consulate, and presumably they also have regular contact with various men as their clients. The reality is that in the vast vast vast vast majority of cases, the sort of sex trafficking described here was done with the at least semi-willful cooperation of the women. I have read a previous study on the case of Ukrainian prostitutes in Britain and Japan – upon interview, it became quite clear indeed that they know darn well what they are in for. I do not wish to minimize the plight of that minority of poor girls who are actually subject to actual terrible conditions and who are in effect trapped – this certainly might apply to girls who go to for example the Middle East to work, even if they went half-willingly. But, the ones working in London and Madrid? Mostly nonsense.
You obviously know nothing of prostitution. The women even from the UK who go into it are overwhelmingly from backgrounds of poverty, drug abuse and sexual abuse. The ones from Romania, in particular – how on earth can you say they were 'just one kilometre from a police station', as if they were somehow just free to walk out the door? Absolutely mindless.
You're absolutely right, on this post. The police may have rea$on$ for looking the other way. Maybe they would rather make an arrest of a prostitute (or on rare occasions, even a customer) than break up a domestic argument in the home of that same customer. When the people who you should be able to depend on for recourse or assistance are more likely to betray you to your fate, you are trapped. In fact, the backgrounds of the girls who are trapped into these predicaments are not mostly from challenged backgrounds – some are from excellent circumstances, which traps them all the more when they do find themselves enslaved. Those from troubled backgrounds would be more likely to have the experience and street smarts needed to con their way out of trouble and know when to be quiet, or when to run.
Wow, did Her Majesty finally release the teleporter to the populace? Or do you expect them to get past the armed men, pick several locks and find the tube or police station?
No, for YOU, it is easier to call them a slag than to try to understand.
Honestly, I have little hope for either of our nations with witless people like you electing idiots to government!
are you kidding me ??? this girls were threatened , beat them and so on and you say that "they could go to the cops" !! This people knew their families , think about that !
I know its hard tovhave your little bubble bursted invthe states....but not everyonenhas the same sense of social equity that you do...
Some people don't take kindly to your weird little progressive social engineering. Not everyone thinks your little cute mores are f cute. And the more you intrude, the more resentment you will likely incur...
So be cool...Mog
America isn't the top bird anymore.....you gotta take it easy....you're getting old....take a break, fix yournown problems...
Keep your f nose to yourself.
It's obvious that the women will be worse off if it's illegal (beatings, STD) than if theyhave legal representation like a porn star. What is immoral is to make it illegal and allow these women to be beaten who incidentallymavoid reporting it ut of fear of being put in jail themselves...
Could you please keep your f b to America and stfu? Thanks, much appreciated.
But apart from my legitimate anger at your social equity narrative bullshit, I'm against slavery.
But think, you empty headed morons in America, what is best for women that have no CHOICE? Obviously that it's legalized. Trafficiking ismgoing to happen anyway. Legalized, they have recourse, as opposed to not. It's OBVIOuS and there shouldn't even be a discussion. That's why its basically legal all over the planet except USA and norhher eurpe (me does not matter, china doescnit matter, women don't have equal rights, poverty its different, it dent matter)...
But no no no, you have to argue the f obvious and politicize it, crate a huge cock blocker in the legal system. Well mo no no , we can't have that USA.
Im all for going against trafficking, but if you mog, wre using this to press for prostitution abolishment, you can really go f yourself. I know it will not be mqde illegal unless you are talking about niche countries that can al of a sudden go one way or the other (Iceland, fags, etc), but in general, i kno the mindset, so that's nit the problem.
What's the problem is the USA start talking wboutnthis shit in w political manner it's f annoying.
Get your f nose outside if th worlds affsirsbefore you wreck yourself. I know enough about the USA, mothers against drunk driving, to know that your system is extremely f up and dysfunctional (you can't even agree on what to cut in gov).
So please, get off your high horse and gtfo.
Hey.... You do realize that we are talking about the inhumanities of sex trafficking and not how much you hate Americans right? Okay, just checking.
Grigori, thank you for revealing your drunk driving history, had you not mentioned MADD, I'd not have known why you were deported.
Now, let me explain who *I* am. I'm the no good SOB who HAS gone into one of those houses, just over the Macedonian border, and extracted some of those women. The staff of the house didn't appreciate the methods that I used, but they won't ever complain to anyone. They can't.
Because, when the law will not handle a problem, I have NO problem handling it myself, to the benefit of the victims.
Said women were turned over to their respective embassies, without my name becoming involved.
All, thanks to the "tired old US" tax dollars training me to do things that would give you nightmares.
So, with no due respect, kiss my ass.
Well you better pray we are still number one since we are building your missile defense shields...personally I'd rather see my tax dollars on my shores instead of covering the like of the ungrateful...
Pimps are terrible human beings, although they have a bizarre esteem in the U.S. The girls that work for them face beatings and death if they don't bring in money or if they try to run. Most prostitutes do not want to be prostitutes and most do not "work for themsevles".
I was a sex slave once. Then my credit card declined, and the internet site cut me off. The rat bastards....
I would love to buy girls to devour
b@st@rd
Bobby! There you are! Get right off of daddy's computer immediately and march right back to bed young man. It's way past your bedtime.
I pray God should forgive them
thats the problem with people who believe in god. they even believe these two should be forgiven. not in my world, lady.
Amen, brother!
They look like gipsies. None bothered to report? 🙂
Not only Romania... Ukraine and Russia have this problem too. Many of the girls from orphanages are snatched or handed over to the mafia guys. Some orphanages headmasters are implicated in this too for money. Many of the girls have no family ties, no money, no jobs and they're easy prey for human traffickers. We need to stop at the source of the problem... the Johns... they need to be caught, prosecuted, imprisoned for 1 year for having sex with a prostitute and that will reduce the demand for prostitutions. Sweden have cracked down on prostitution and it's working and the rest of EU member countries should follow Sweden's example.
80% of the prostitutes in Amsterdam are from Eastern Europe and almost all of them are forced into it. It's pathetic that Johns wants to have sex with a prostitute and not think about the girl's welfare. Johns should know by looking at the bruises, ciggy burn marks on the body, unwilling behavior of the girl to know the difference and report it to the police. Many of them just turn a blind eye and do it anyway. Shame on them.
Isn't the source of the problem in Romania the orphanages, and the corruption which surrounds them? The customers are not the source, the problem (or the situation) is pre-existing when they walk into it or find it. The harder it is to look for trouble, the less likely its customers will be to find it when they do look for it. The supply is the source. The demand is the result of the supply. I'm not trying to nitpick, but the best way to solve a problem is through logic, and that includes the elimination of logical fallacies.
I I am from romania and I am telling you that the source is not the problem, but the demand. Lifestyle in the west makes people want especialy this kind of sex. Prostitution will always exist, but put punishment on those demanding it and it will not be at these outrageous levels. I don t see your logic in your affirmation!
Andrei, I read what you wrote. It doesn't make sense in terms of ending forced prostitution. The demand for prostitution is completely unaffected by the aspect of whether or not the supplier is relying on slavery or simple free-market bargaining. Emphasizing punishment of disorganized individuals who gravitate toward prostitution as customers will not reduce the amount of human trafficking. All this will do is punish people who are unaccustomed to dealing with things of this nature. The hard-core criminal element and the regular customer will be unaffected. The procurers and the pimps who take advantage of young girls and ruin their lives should be the main focus of punishment. In situations of limited resources, triage ought to be the approach used. Since there are many more customers than suppliers in this business by any measure, your idea would lead to very ineffective enforcement, which would amount to a waste of tax dollars. You would want to see some naive people punished while the hard-core criminal element gets away and continues to pocket their ill-gotten gains at the expense of the freedom of their young victims. Look, don't shift the blame from where it belongs most; no one will believe you. Anyone who enslaves people – especially children – and especially for a salacious purpose – ought to be decapitated on a chopping block by a huge masked man wielding a 44 kilogram axe.
You remind me of Mr. T on another website! You both got you facts wrong, had fallacious arguments and had way to much time!
I find that completely offensive!
Ok USA And CNN, you want to go against slavery, then you f legalize prostitution in the USA. Otherwise,you are just pushing your stupid f social values on the rest of the world, just like bush.
You either f end ore legalizing prostitution, or you faggots I. The states can go fuck yourselves.
There is legal prostitution in USA... look it up and it's in Nevada.
Also there's legal prostitution in Amsterdam and how is that working out? Most of the prostitutes there are victim of human trafficking. Prostitution should be legal only if the prostitutes are there on their free will... not forced into it against their will.
Well said...end of story!
Gee, Sam. Thanks for the solution. If we'd all go f ourselves we would not need prostitution.
Im all for abolishing slavery. What I'm not for, is going against slavery in order to push the feminist desire of prostitution criminalization and abolishment. You guys like that s up in the states, great. We don't have to put-up with that s or a bunch of angry bitches
I'll fight slavery right on with you, what i will not condone is making prostitution illegal which gives the subset of women that have no choice only the seedy underworld of pimping as a way out. Beatings and spreading stds. When legalized they get legal protection like any person working in the f porn industry.
Your first post was not clear to me, but the second post is very clear, and I am totally in agreement with you. The truth is that American feminists have a difficult time accepting the basic facts of humanity – including their own humanity. Feminism is Communist redistribution of gender roles in a way which violates human nature, just as Communist redistribution of income and opportunity ignores the laws of economics. But sometimes even the feminists are right. Their biggest mistake is that they think they are always right, and everyone who doesn't completely agree with them is wrong.
Prostitution allows men to treat women with contempt, as holes for their enjoyment. It is incredibly degrading and the vast majority of prostitutes, even in legalized prostitution, do not want to be prostitutes. You already see women as objects, the laws against prostitution are trying to maintain the kind of standards present in civilized society. There will always be disgusting men who can't get women to sleep with them and must pay for it, but we can at least TRY to be civilized. Oh and STDs are rampant among the general population, not just prostitutes. Almost everyone will have HPV at one time or another, some will die from it, and you can get it even when using a condom.
A million thanks, CNN ! For more than 15 years, I have been leading the fight against this modern day slavery within the EU and especially, the Netherlands where I live. I 've done many conferences and training seminars for many stakeholders and I have always insisted that this problem will never go away unless the leading world media gets involved ! I am so thankful and grateful to you CNN ! ! !
It is my understanding that prostitution in the Netherlands is somewhat decriminalized. Is that correct? Has that legalization promoted this type of slavery? The concept of legalization of prostitution is always sold on the basis that it will minimize forced prostitution and disease. What links or books do you have to provide us with the researched answers to these and related questions, since you seem to have some expertise on the subject that is on a very high level? We want to know.
Ok sali li, and potential fucks. This has to do with SLaVERY, not prostitution. Prostitution is an accepted practice worldwide and it is not at all a causation of slavery, I. Fact, it coulee be argued the opposite. So let's just get that straight off the bat.
You have slavery, and then you have prostitution. Theynare very very different things. Enough said.
And by acceptable, I mean legalized or effectively legalized....let's not go apeshit social conservative now....
You wouldn't want to appear like a preachy, whiny, conservative Christian imposing your abortion stem cell abolishing valuesnin the rest of the world...
Make sure you're clear. You either are attacking slavery, or prostitution....it's either one or the other unless there is some causation, which doesn't seem to be at al the case.
Many studies in Europe suggest prostitution mitigates slavery. So if you are against prostitution because of slavery, you better have pretty good evidence to show causation or correlation to make that case. Because as of now, that is nit at all clear, and prostitution is an acceptable global practice.
So let's be clear. There is slavery, and the.n there is prostitution. They are different, and slavery is often used as a device by feminists to push prostitution qbolishinest over the traditional libertarian mindset.v
So im all for abolishing slavery. Prostitution? That's a different matter now.
Prostitution is regarded as a necessity in some cultures, but the question is where should the line between prostitution and human trafficking be drawn? The radical feminists seem to want to abolish all forms of male satisfaction. Then there are people who think it is a good idea to abolish all prostitution, but I believe these people are unwittingly promoting the worst forms of prostitution, such as human trafficking and slavery. Prostitution is not entirely separate and distinct from slavery – most types of prostitution grade into and out of forced labor. There are a few people who voluntarily trade themselves for money in a way that would generally be considered a form of prostitution, and who never encounter any compulsion from anyone. Most prostitutes probably run into this sooner or later, and most probably are either tricked or bullied into the lifestyle at a very young age, survive this phase, and then continue to gravitate to it leter in life because it is something they know how to do. But the focus of law enforcement should definitely be on preventing the most brutal and most exploitative forms of it, and enforcing child labor laws very strongly in any context in which underage girls are employed in ANY situation in which they are compelled to deal regularly with adult customers, because any situation like this can easily be a foil or a staging point for child prostitution or pornography.
That is an old argument. Y the feminists im Europe. They tie prostitution to hu,an trafficking, when the tie is a total lie. Trafficking is going to happen irrespective of prostituiom being legalized. Some have argued that it increases the activity when prostitution legalized, some the opposite. But for those who have no choice, one thing is very clear, and it had been shown time and time again: it is better for them to have legal recourse through legalizqyiom than face the fear of beatings ormof reporting them by being put im jail themselves. Legality gives them the protection that any porn industry star has.
In the states, many of the liberal and conservative rightists banned together (feminists were the first that got the ball rolling after thr50s) and slowly eroded the libertarian center in the 20th. Cenutry, they used that very argument to basically criminalize prostitution along with most drugs, basically enacting the prison industrial complex and it's disgusting perversion of justice invthe states, which is now widely recognized to put more people behind bars than any country onvthe planet. Earning it the monicker of 'the police state' even though it is not technically a police state due to the legal recourse and process, yet too strident once you get invthe system to really be called liberal (have you seen lock up on msnbc? It's the most disgusting perversion of justice...i don't even want to talk about it, it's absolutely disgusting).
The libertarian center, which was originally the 'liberal' in the states, had a more common sense view. That putting people in jail for drug orrostitutiom reasons costs more than it's worth and creates more problems than simply allowing it, legalizing it, or somehow regulating it through a decriminalization process.
Unfortunately this mindset disappeared withvthe prison complex that now lobbies dc regularly and is supported by the feminists, radical progressives, and Christian conservatives. The ameircan public gets stupefied into a narrative of, everyone feels that way, so a herd mentality ensues and theyvassume it's a social more, playing right into the hands of the special interests that feast onvthe wealth of the richest nation.
In reality. Most of the world has remaind withvthe libertarian common sense obvious view, that criminalization is worse for those thatvhave no choice, except for the states and poor countries, where such is rarely enforced.
So no, there is no 'line' between trafficking and legalized prostitution. Prostitution is GOING to happen. It just how you handle it, that's the question. That 'line' is a tired distortion by the feminists....who seem, sadly, to have long won in the states. This is not as common or acceptable in the rest of the world....
Absolutely, you have a point. You are saying that red is not blue, which is correct. But I view the situation a different way. I view red and blue as part of a continuum that you might see in a prism or a rainbow. The different colors are simply slightly different frequencies of the same phenomenon. You may view human trafficking and prostitution as two separate and distinct things, and I am still trying to understand this idea. The feminists – and many others – view marriage as a type of sex-for-money arrangement. Maybe divorce is a sex-for-money arrangement too, on the installment plan. Maybe all economic interactions between males and females, in which the female is the employee, or in which the male is the customer, contain overtones of prostitution. Basically, feminists have spouted this type of idea for years.
I think what you are trying to say is that the law should view prostitution and human trafficking as two separate and distinct offenses. The first seems to be closer to a victimless crime, and involves more free will, at least in theory. The second involves compulsion, involuntary servitude, violence, drugging, and involves man's inhumanity to man – in the sense that "man" simply means "human being". Some of the most dangerous and brutal operators in human trafficking are females, by the way. They are dangerous because they are able to escape suspicion by both law enforcement and the victims, for great lengths of time.
My own direct observation of human trafficking originated in high school, where I was a student, and some of the other students – girls from a local orphanage – were seduced, raped or drugged and thereby forced into prostitution at a young age. For all practical purposes, they were kidnapped from an idyllic suburban setting, and forcibly brought to an ugly, corrupt urban environment, where they were exploited horribly, and their promising lives were ruined. This was done under the watchful eye of the community, including teachers and school officials who must have seen the signs – and as a fellow student, I watched helplessly, although I asked questions, and I could see the fear in their eyes and hear it in the voices of these girls. This is why I would like to see this worldwide problem solved, and I think we need an open and honest civil discussion of the issues related to this, so that we can move toward a solution. Unfortunately, instead of solutions, we will get continuing hysterical and shrill rhetoric from the feminists, and disrespect for people who have something true to say and something to offer in the way of a solution.
If I appear a little aggressive to my us counterparts I apologize, it's just that in Europe we are very privy to political ploys and devices that can be co opted byarticular groups. And in the past, 'human trafficking' has been used as a political device to pass anti-prostitution legislation under the guise of the more unanimous 'trafficking' political operator.
Everyone is against human trafficking. Not everyone is against prostitution.
Let's just make that CLEAR, so there is no misunderstanding amongt the feminists and their tyrant lawyers, they already toppled Sweden.
Sam
Why don't you want prostitution abolished? It denegrates women. Why would you want to see
women sold for sexual acts? Do you care so little for women? You are the kind of man that makes
women so very very sad. If I were your mother I would cry every day. When did you become such an angry
man?
First itnwas Sweden, and then they went after Norway and Iceland. Typical feminist bs. They would LOVE tovuse cnns good intentions, and distort it for their polticiwl ends. They are always looking for a way to abolish prostitution and basically oppress men. I know prostitution and man oppressing is nit the same in all cases. But that is their goal in life. Be SURE of that. They will use anything and everything they can to accomplish that goal. Even if in real life,vit INCREASES women suffering or slavery. No matter, if it oppresses men, all the better.
You think this man hatred is bs this European?
Please do me a favor and read who the pusher of the cock blocker legislation described is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Iceland
As I said, man hatred.
You Americans are led by the nose all the time. No, it is not a 'social more' Texas had more brothels in the early 20th than breweries. So did new York. What happened is thatcthe feminists pushed that shit, they partnered withvthe Christian right and the prison complex. Radical feminists in the late 20th century is the reason prostitution is so widely illegal I. The states, and the libertarians thatvhad a voice in the democrats were ousted by big government socialists on the left and Christian conservative whack jobs on the right. That is the reason. Radical feminists are not a trivia
Matter. You must take their political threats seriously. They are very very dangerous.
If it were not for them and the libertarians getting crowded out. I am absolutely sure that the USA wou
D be Amsterdam right now.
It's not a social more. But now it's kind of a uphill battle for you,vou have the prison complex to contend with. They are pretty powerful.
Before the 30s the us was more like Switzerland. Too bad. USA cow
D have been free. Npw it's just full ofnpolice state advocates, socialists and rightest nut jobs. Very very sad. I say that truthfully. No joke.
Absolutely right.
Modern-day slavery is also widely rampant in Gulf states like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It i shocking that a country like Qatar has been chosen by the International Football Federation (Fifa) to host the 2022 World Cup football event. The Sponsorship System in Qatar and other Gulf states are used by Gulf based companies and the citizens of the country to make life miserable for expat employees and also for domestic helps, who are fleeing poverty from countries in Asia.
Modern-day slavery is also widely rampant in Gulf states like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It i shocking that a country like Qatar has been chosen by the International Football Federation (Fifa) to host the 2022 World Cup football event. The Sponsorship System in Qatar and other Gulf states are used by Gulf based companies and the citizens of the country to make life miserable for expat employees and also for domestic helps, who are fleeing poverty from countries in Asia.
If it were not forvallvthe little Mongoloids thatcwant to f regulate everything you do, you wouldchavenlegalized drugs,prostitution and gambling in the states, the constitutional set up of the us was intended tomb Switzerland like. That's what the founding fathers intended.
Instead, you got wll the parasites f up your system due to your wealth. Well, I guess a collapse wouldcbe best, because them they will have to cut and you will be at least a bit more free, like the creators of the constitution intended.
Right now you are in a police state of sorts. Pretty much everything is illegal. Drugs, gambling, prostitution. Before the rise of the statist mentality, this was basically u touched....you see, you're federal government was kept in check then. That's no longer the case, obviously. It's turned into. A brazen bitch of a police state.
And what's worse,the media wants tovmake it even worse thancthat. If theyvhwd their way, facrbook wouldcpoliticize everything and you would-be kept im check by mob rule In big brother style, but with facebook. Mob checking the individual. That's how f up things have gotten invthe states.
Sad sad man. I feel for you.
it is very shockig and how cruel are these people who forcing women and killing them, every place governament should take a immidate step on this other wise it all comes to the governament and the responsiable are they
Omfg. This is one giant global feminist conspiracy.
The fatherland will never fall to this european union ploy. It's just another way to undermine our currency. F Greece.
Yes, all of the women of hte world are just being dramatic. We like being sold into slavery and forced to have sex. I realize that sarcasm does not translate well on the Internet, but there you go.
Very important news indeed, really desrves to be on the CNN front page. Why not breaking news, I wonder ?
Are there no other, more important, news in the world then presenting these two nomad gypsies ?
These persons are Romanians of indian origin, because they have dark skin. A Romanian has pale skin. They are from the so called "Roma" comunity, in fact indians who migrated 700 years ago in Eastern Europe. If a black person or a Muslim born in America kills someone, you blame the American people? Why do you blame for sex slavery made by this mobs of ancient indian and pakistani heritage?
Why do blame Romania because of some ****** former indians?
Why do you blame Romania because of some ****** former indians?
You're right :)))) , well said !! [acum toti suntem tigani din cauza astora , avem 3-6 persoane care reprezinta in bine Romania afara si alte sute de mii care o reprezinta rau (ma refer la cei care apar in ziarele occidentale ) ]
again, again racism, separatism, hitlerism, judaism, trying to blame a darker race as an inferior,race, i'm so glad israel , stand in the middle of the arab world with their mighty nuclear weapons ready to wipe a treat, and we as american we are their allies, i used to live in Brooklyn NY, a lot of jewish , happy with their families, te more you supress a race the stronger it becomes.
Sorry if i said something racist
You're excused !
Isac, just because these 3-6 criminals happen to be Romanian, does not mean that they have tarnished the entire Romanian population. This response reminds me of the Chinese guy who killed a lot of people at a school in the US and China was collectively shocked but they apologized for their citizen's crime.
Its not that you said something racist...it is the implication with your words. Nobody is blaming Romainians...everybody knows that this incident is not a "Romainian" problem, these criminals just happen to be from Romainia! But you are defensive and are quick to blame an ethnic minority from your country. Everything that I have heard on this site from Romainian people is to be defensive and to blame someone else. Stop being so defensive. I have met Romainian people and the only thing that I ever found disagreeable was their extreme intolerance. Other than that, they are just like anyone else.
Reminds me of the movie Taken.
Lord have mercy. Rise up and defend the oppressed! You will, soon.
why nobody is against the owner of that massage house ,he is the one that made this girls life a living hell.(along with those two convivted)
p.s. and the english men that took advantage of those poor souls
This isn't about ending slavery but rather about writing articles to make a buck on it.
Never ever trust people with your children. Teach them to mistrust everyone. I'm always shocked to hear how easily people are willing to pawn their kids off with "friends" or "relatives." Really? Becausen no one was ever hurt by someone they knew and loved. If you love your children, you'd never trust them to others. That's the world we live in. Inconvenient, but totally true.
There was a case of trafficking little kids in a small town in Romania (Tandarei) where I work as a teacher, few months ago. Those bad guys was trafficking kids in UK. A lot of police forces joined the action including Scotland Yard and Euro pol, and the British media reported. Last week all of the traffickers have been released from prison by the corrupted judges. The freed traffickers held a huge party here in their hometown and showed us all that they can do anything with their money. You guys from CNN come here and report.
Slavery is just one of many crimes, and all crimes are all evil act, and the evil people are among us. We are just hoping that we can be protected by law enforcement, but we all know because of the money talks some law enforcement, and the justice system and the whole justiceship can be bought to do evilness for a worldy gains and protect instead their fellow evil brotherhood.
I do not believe in hell...therefore we must burn these people right now.
This article brings back memories......15 years ago, when I used to live in NYC I was a driver for asian and hispanic traffickers trying to earn a buck. They paid well and I got to break in the product in some cases. hehe. I've heard this crap about karma, etc. Well, I'm still waiting since nothing but good health and good fortune has come my way since I left that lifestyle. A loving wife, two wonderful children (the 7 year old is skipping the 2nd grade...yay) and a more than successful career (retirment in 3 years or less at 42....niiiice). Come to think of it, this thing called karma shoulda kicked my butt and left me for dead for all the things I've done in my teenage years. When I think of all the people I've hurt, hustled, and robbed and helped traffic I should be in jail or worse. But I guess, so called good people like yourselves will continue to rely on god's justice . Tell you what, you keep relying on your chosen diety and I'll continue being a realist and an athiest and continue to accumlate riches. I was hoping for wealth, but hey, being rich is good enough.
you gonna get what u deserve plus interest, you don't have an ounze of remorse in you're body , you're not inmortal you're time will come, i dare you talk to you're wife and kids about how proud you r about your criminal career, they gonna leave u when t time is right, until then try to jump a building to see if your luck and wealth saves you.
Shame on you!
Quite a shameful comment. I hope one of your children is a girl, and she is taken from you by someone who wants to "break her in" to this awful business. Scratch that, I would never wish that on anybody. You should be punished, not your innocent child. How can you not feel bad, no matter how much you have accumulated?
Remember what you said when you stand in front of my God, Jehovah, His son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit
You're a pig.
Since you obviously don't know what love is, I would guess that if you actually have the money you say you do, that is why she is with you. And by the way – rich and wealthy are pretty much the same thing. If you don't get that, you're probably not the financial powerhouse you claim to be. It's too bad you can't buy yourself a little common decency.
I've never heard anyone brag about being human garbage before. It's sad to think you are attempting fatherhood. If your wife and children are lucky, you will die young. Your wife will hopefully meet a decent guy next time, and not one who will mess with your kids. The best part will be that someone else will get to enjoy your ill-gotten gains. By the way, keep laughing at fate. It's very, very auspicious. As the chinese say, "Have an interesting life."
The family members are lying, all of them. I visited Moldova in 2001, everybody there were talking about Moldovan women going to Romania and Italy to work and ending up in brothels and what not. EVERYBODY KNEW THAT!!!! In 2001! last time I checked it"s 2011 and we are none the wiser?
Sleeziness and disgrace know no nationality barriers
is amazing what people can do for money.it bit my knowledge to know poeple can do absolutely any thing to get money even selling their own soul
I'm from sin city las vegas we used to get asian girls in udercover brothels, one day i saw the news and film of the place been raided, they say it was a national operation across t country, deteining like 500 people.
yeah it was wrong what i was doing but never,ever, ever, saw one of the girls, scare, crying or asking for any help, otherwise i'll never would get involved.
I'm not a politician but I know some of the girls that work legaly (not in las vegas clark co. is not permitted at any level),some have their kids in college (some got pregnant at an early age), they are good moms in my book.
God bless all this unprotedted human beings.
Key statement: You "never saw any of the girls scare, cry, or beg for help." That doesn't mean they were not scared or scarred. They may have been too deeply shamed to acknowledge the fact of what was happening to them. Then again, there is another possibility: Maybe what they were experiencing in Nevada was better than anything they would have experienced in a similar situation in Asia – and they all knew it. Or, then again, maybe they reasoned that it would be useless to cry or beg for help, and harmful to their survival to let their fear or humiliation show. Fourth possibility: They may have viewed the situation as a way to obtain airfare to America, and snag an American husband sooner or later. And I bet you every one of them eventually did.
is amazing what people can do for money.it bit my knowledge to know people can do absolutely any thing to get money even selling their own soul.sam ur word are too nonsensical.
It is appalling that there is still a market for this in today's world. We should all be ashamed for not doing more to stop it in every city we live.
There is another form of this being done by foreign, often asian; phillipine women seeking men online to marry in foreign countries. They often marry men twice their ages, for the green card and once they get it they divorce them & take all the money they can. Devastating these naiive men. Sometimes women are used the same way by foreign men. They need to stop this.
Naive men, HA! Stupid and naive aren't the same thing. And if you're the kind of dirtbag to want a passive little girl as a wife, you deserve to be dumped and robbed.
You gotta love it when people think they are getting what they want, and it turns out to be what they deserve! LOL!
Britain..........Does this surprise anyone??They have sold....Children.....Stolen our Children............Because.....they Love to Play God.......................But.................Donna..........Told all you Looser Queens and kings.....Someday......you will answer to my god..................And you all will!!!
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Someday all of those misguided souls who traffic in human misery will have to answer to ADBULLAH THE BUTCHER. Though he is known to be quite cruel, ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER is always fair. May the Lord have mercy on their souls.
This same story could have been written about the US! Sex trafficking is everywhere in the US, not just in the big cities. For example, nearly every Chinese restaurant in America employs slaves and many of these slaves are coerced into sex. The only difference is that they have the hope of getting free eventually, after many years of working off a so called debt, the outrageously high cost of their immigration to the US, which their employees hold over their heads with the option to make more money or get free sooner if they engage in sex. They don't complain because life as a slave in the US is better than their lives in China. Anybody who doesn't know this or denies it's existence is either naive or simply doesn't care. This type of slavery has been going on for centuries, right here in America and it is not even hidden. It is common knowledge. OK, maybe the torture thing is a little different in this example but this is only one example. I'm sure that there are Mexican equivalents that certainly do include torture.
All traffickers should get the death penalty! The sick perverts who keep this business going should get jail time and media exposure and be registered as sex offenders. Sex trafficking is too light of a crime. The crime should be considered rape because the victims are not willing participants.
Trafficking arises out of widely varying prostitution laws from country to country. Countries that make prostitution illegal will have trafficking. The harder they crackdown in the criminals, but more abusive it will become.
For many years, the US State Dept required many countries to make prostitution illegal or not qualify for US aid money. So they did. Many did not enforce the law. Now we have all these incentives for poeple to trafficking humans from one country to another. If it were legal and regulated everywhere, the criminal incentive to do this would not exist.
I have a clear cut way to end this once and for all and some of you touched on it. Bottom line: extreme sentences for those involved. I believe kidnapping and rape of minors especially is one of the most evil crimes and for that the offenders deserve the harshest penalties currently not in practice. We need to invent a new system of justice and punishment that will make these scumbags think about kidnapping people and forcing them into slavery.
First: There needs to be an international law and punishment for such a crime so that no matter where the offenders are they will receive the same punishment. For counts of kidnapping those guilty will be immediately castrated. Next, they are put in solitary confinement for a period of 1 year. Then, their tongue, one ear, one eye, one foot and a hand are removed. Another year in solitary confinement interspersed with random beatings and whippings. Then they are buried alive with sewer rats, cock roaches, and snakes.
Once word gets out to all the criminals involved that THIS IS WHAT WILL FUCKING HAPPEN TO YOU IF YOU DO THIS – I guarantee that you will see an immediate reduction in this type of crime.
Now, for counts of kidnapping and torture and rape – I don't want to get into what insane and inhumane punishments await those offenders. Let's just say it's about 10 times worse than the above punishment for just kidnapping.
I know it sounds sick and irrational, but I believe that's the only way to fight this type of criminal. You need to be equally sick and inhumane in the punishment to make them think. A child will touch a stove and maybe even a hot stove, but you turn up the heat hot enough he will get the point. I know a punishment like this will never be a reality but what other alternative is there to stopping this? Billions have been spent on stopping the drug trade and billions will be spent trying to stop the sex trade. Now I don't have a problem with consensual prostitution. A woman's body is her own and is to do with as she chooses even for the sake of making money. I don't condone it, but if it's fair game between the prostitute and the John and everyone knows the rules – so be it. But I won't stand for kidnapping kids and forcing them through intimidation to have sex with all manner of men. And yes, I do believe the men participating in this should be equally responsible.
So yes, let's start chopping off body parts and burying these people alive and watch 75% of these crimes cease.
tb
Where is the moderator here? My comments are deleted by CNN moderators simply for disagreeing with CNN.
tronbarn above is using profanity (the F word) in the comments.
And in CAPITOL LETTERS TOO!
LET'S TAKE RACE AND NATIONALITY OUT OF THE FACTOR AND ADD UP THE COMMON DENOMINATOR........MAN!! IF THERE WAS NO MARKET FOR THIS TYPE OF DISGUSTING CRIME..I'M SURE THE GROCERY WOULD CLOSE. I CAN'T WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND SOMEONE WILLING TO PAY FOR THIS AND I CERTAINLY CAN'T WRAP IT AROUND SOMEONE SUPPLING THESE GIRLS. DEAR GOD! THE BEST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN TO US ALL IS THE EARTH SHAKING US OFF LIKE THE FLEAS WE ARE.
I find the comments about the differences between "Romanians" and "Roma" to be quite interesting. I personally am happy that Romanians are being lumped in with Roma as they can feel the sting of racism, intolerance, lack of respect and knowledge about their culture, and plain ignorance - all the things that Romanians have done to Roma (Gypsies) for 700 years. Doesn't feel as good when you are on the receiving end, Romanians, does it? Would say the same for Hungarians, Czechs and Slovaks - all who are scapegoating Gypsies while their politicians are fleecing them blind. Keep it up, Eastern Europe. Hitler's ghost remains in your souls, no matter how much you pride yourselves on being part of the EU. You should be very proud of yourselves as the world begins to see the extremism in Eastern Europe leads you into backwardness.
I totally agree...I could not have said it better! Romainia has a long way to go in the humanities department. The intolerance that I have seen with Romainian immigrants in Canada shocks me! I have seen racism in Canada but I have never seen that extreme hatred that they exhibit.
yeah, just like the Americans the way they hate the Mexicans.
There is intolerance everywhere, Anne-Marie but there are different degrees of intolerance.
I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE TRONBARN!!!!!
I don't know, Eli Joy; mankind can be pretty 'man-unkind' but to have a death wish for us as a species? Just a little extreme for me but I definitely feel your comment wholeheartedly. The bottom line is that until man elevates his consciousness we are all going to suffer in some way for it. I'm cautiously optimistic about our future.
Your right tronbarn. My blood boils everytime I hear something happening like this. Which is more and more all the time. I guess I'm sheltered. But to have your own family do this to you, to sell you like that. When people get that bad is there really going back? I don't believe in jail, for a crime like this only death. Sorry to offend you. my bad
I can agree with no jail only death but to me death is too easy. Because if you believe in a peaceful better place where we are all forgiven for our sins after we die then that is actually letting these animals off the hook. The only way to be sure is to make them suffer before death and make is slow and extremely painful. Burying them alive is a start but I want to see extended torture before that sentence is carried out. These monsters have collectively caused more pain and suffering for more human beings than can be measured. This is the least we could do. Death is the easy way out.
The weak and or tired are unable to defend themselves against a force of evil, it is up to all societies to step up and take scumbags like this family out. One only needs to ask one's self. What if it were my best friends sister or a friend ? What if it were my sister or her friend ? If we do not each take the time to speak up and say enough is enough to this form of disease of the flesh. Then we are all guilty as a human (society) family. It is not just little girls but boys as well. There are plenty of sick bastards out there in the World. Thank goodness for a police force that said this is not going to happen anymore. Bravo.
A retired US Army veteran from NorCAL
yes eli joy the earth would shake we are just waiting we dont know when, or what time, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe next year, just be prepared, its cleansing time
So sad and disgusting. Anyone who uses a prostitute is complicite in human trafficing. For all you know that woman could be forced to do that act with you.
For all you know, she willfully entered prostitution, as many do, and is profitting from it.
Unfortunately, as long as prostitution is illegal, most prostitutes won't fit your description.
I am sitting here with tears running down my face for these little souls that have been and are continuing to be violated and tortured. What is wrong with people? These, I don't even know a word in the English language that is bad enough to describe them other than satan's spawn, need to be hunted down and exterminated. And the people that pay to use them are just as bad and should have there extremities cut off. God says vengeance is His but I sure would be willing to help Him in this instance. And there is such a thing as righteous anger!
The son is kinda DIRTY HOT
forgive my ignorance BUT isn't the gypsies Romanian too? It's not like they';re a different rac or tribes.
Actually, Roma *are* a very different people from Romanians. And Roma is *not* just a name for a subset of Romanians.
Yours is a common, but erroneous assumption. However, you're sitting at a computer on the Internet...so check it out for yourself! Google. Wikipedia. Good starting points 🙂
Gypsies live in many countries. If they are citizens of Romania, then they are considered Romanian albeit a minority. If they are citizens of Albania, then they would be Albanians albeit a minority. They all like to say that Gypsies are from India but Gypsies have been citizens of various European countries for almost a thousand years! Some still have facial features of India but quite a lot resemble other Europeans.
WOW!!! Really??? Really?? How many losers here none of you can do anything about it, that is life and it sucks for those that are living that life style and the horrible thing that they go through. WAKE UP ALL OF YOU!!! This is the world you all live in. Human Trafficking has exited since the beginning of man kind and it will be here till the end of man kind. The only thing that we can hope those who are in the profession of controlling or hunting down human traffickers that they do their very best with the resources they have. Therefore, unless any of you here are willing to give some of your money to support that cause and I mean a substantial amount of money to make a difference or volunteer your free time to help with the tracking of human trafficker or lost girls than all of you should close this post and justhope for the best for them.... All of you need to really wake up!! See ya!!
And every one comfortably seated at their computer recoil in shock!!!! I would grant that fewer that would admit have ever even seen a Romanian or Romany Gypsy. If you had, you might have a different outlook than one of fingerpointing and shame on those that have dealt with them and considered them as they are.
Human trafficing is reprehesible in it's most base form, people being shocked into doing nothing because they know they never will have to is close.
It is intolerance and racism...however you justify yourself! In every country of the world, there is the undesirable element in society but there are only a few that will slap, spit on, vilify a race instead of judging a person as an individual. Roma people don't have a hope in Romainia.
These are crimes that arise from huge differences in poverty and wealth. I'm not excusing human traffickers - they are despicable, but they can only thrive as long as wealthy patrons (and nations) provide them a reason to stay in business. Stabilize the work opportunities and economies for all and human traffickers will be out of business.
Funny how all the people in all the countries covered up with GYPSIES or romanians ALL HAVE THE SAME VIEWPOINT ON THEM. Shut the hell up with your 'eww that's racist' WHINE – the truth hurts
Exactly, TexasJoe!
And you know what a pimps biggest ally and moneymaking avenue is? The prohibition on prostitution. The same is true of drugs. If drugs were legal, cartels could not exist. Therefore I cannot help but conclude that outside of the pimps, drug runners, and drug dealers, the group of people most responsible for these problems are civilians who support these laws and the politicians they elect to enact and enforce them.
It doesn't really matter what their reasons were, how pure their intentions are, the connection between prohibition and its enactment creating a black market is clear cut and undeniable.
At this point anyone who supports prostitution and drugs being illegal has as much blood and dirt on their hands as that filth up there in the mugshots.
It is high time we start holding the so called "moral" segments of our society responsible for the black markets THEY have created and the victims THEY cause in their creation. If prostitution were legal women could establish a brothel where they actually work legally, are tested routinely for STDs, CAN PAY TAX ON THEIR INCOME, and actually get to keep their income instead of it going to a pimp.
You would have to be an idiot to look at our system here in Nevada outside of clark county and say that legal prostitution is not 1,000,000 times better than it being illegal and scum like that profiting.
I agree. The people advocating an intensification of techniques already proven to fail do not care about the women. The abuse feeds from the illegality of it. If they really cared about the women, they would advoate legalization where the women could get health care and protection.
The sum total of it is that there are some people who just cannot bear the thought of someone being available to a man for uncommitted sex. They cant stand that. They want men to have to pay with marriage and divorce to have thier sexual needs met. Sex before marriage is not more traumatic to a woman than sex after.
Sorry, Ken...but wanting and being available for uncommitted sex isn't just about men. And it's sure as heck not about men "paying" with marriage. Try getting past your resentment and looking at it from the woman's point of view.
Women who wanted to have sex before marriage were looked down on big time. The guy? He's "a player". The woman? Slut. Town pump. Sleazy. 'Ho. As a result, there were countless women over countless generations who were forced to turn off their arousals so many times that they became "frigid". Then, come marriage time...when it was 'appropriate' to have sex...they didn't know how to turn their physical sexual desires back on. No matter how badly they wanted to.
Like it or not, Puritanical, "faith-based" attitudes have always been focused on women and sex. But men and sex out of marriage? It's consistently been more of a "boys will be boys" or "sowing their wild oats" approach.
So PLEASE don't act like you men are the victim here.
Some of that is accurate. I agree that culture does look at women and men different in regards to sex before marriage. That is wrong....I agree. However, I dont think religion looked at it different. It was condemned for both genders.
But you still not touch on the idea that the people who claim to care about the women really dont. They care about thier man hating agenda and the women are just pawns for thier feminist hatred.
IDF
March 6th, 2011 11:27 pm ET
As Usual the Media fails to report that these Men were MUSLIMS!!!!!! ___________________ Omg, stFu! These women are bought by dirty old white AMERICAN men! EVERYBODY knows that! Who are YOU trying to kid?! You can see this on any given day in Costa Rica!
Well, to report on them being Muslim would be politically incorrect. To report on "dirty old white American man" is perfectly politically correct according to the prejudices of the day. CNN is simply doing what politicians do....they are appealing to the prejudices of the people......something Lincoln warned about.
In the early 1900s, the sensationalists ran the same sort of campaign on prostitution and trafficking. This is nothing new. This type of campaign was used in the early 1900s against prostitution, gambling and alcohol. But back then the prejudice was enslaving white women. That is all they cared about. They did not care of a Hispanic or Asian woman was a slave. That was the prejudice of the times.
Sa fie trasi pe roata ,sa-u mai bine in tiapa . la spanzuratoare cu ei .acum stim de unde au tigani palatele din romania . numai sa aud ca se gandeste vrio unul din ei sa imi corupa copilul .bucati il fac si scrum palatu
Simplest solution to all this is Islam amd Shariah law. Of course your politicians will never tell u that cuzz then how would they make money from kickbacks and bribes? How would they allow the people to be punished that pay their salaries?
Inshallah.
You know TG, just because something has existed for so long, doesn't mean it can't and shouldn't change. You are right, there is nothing I can do nor can you. I think the one thing we all have in common is the utter disgust. We can't just direct our anger at these two low lives. It should be placed with the child molesters and rapist as well. How do we smother this fire? How do we dry up this well?, Because this is far from being a Romania issue alone. Do you think that these children, these women have a choice in anything? The only ones who do are the buyers and sellers. And if we stop the john's we stop the pimps... I don't have enough faith in mankind to really truly believe that it is stoppable, no matter how much tax you think we should charge them. These women in Nevada have a choice of their lifestyle, These poor kids and women do not. It is an entirely situation.
Since CNN, and other media outlets, are on the war path over this, I wonder if they have assess thier responsibility on the "over sexualization" of the world. All over the place, we see the media, dept stores, Victoria's Secret, Sport Illustrated, etc. etc. post nude or nearly nude photos of women. Then, they throw it our faces on billboards, signs, newspaper ads, and on the front cover of popular magazines in the grocery store check isle. And many of these are right at eye level of the kids. Perhaps the media needs to review its responsibility of the sexualization before blaming everyone else under the sun from a "high moral ground"
Isn't this just free market capitalism on display. Why should the Federal Government interfere with people doing business? Slavery and harems are in the Bible after all. Are we better than King Solomon? He was the wisest king ever right? I think this is a massive over reach by the Fed Gov.
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Doesn't surprize me one bit. There is nothing "free market capitalizing about this. You know better! and yesm If King Solomon thought this way, than god forgive him too. We've learned a lot since then. We'll some of us anyways. But your explanation makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. Try again.
Why should the federal govt interfere with consenting adults having sex for money? And most of what is called "human trafficking" is no more than that. The federal definition of sex trafficking does not require the elements of force or restraint. Therefore, it is a federal anti prostitution crusade.
There are isolated cases of real trafficking, but the numbers are low. Most what is called trafficking is what they have beefed up into a trafficking case by broad definitions.
Very simple fix....any arrested and convicted fo human trafficking is immediatley put to death. Done.
These people shouldn't sentenced but shot!
They should make these guys sex slaves for perverted businessmen for as long as these guys made the girls sex slaves for all those loser pervs. See how they like being penetrated against their will. Death is too kind for these demons.
SEX Slavery wil never end unless all libidos are castrated........ How can we demolish/stop/eradicate the oldest business in the world.....The funny thing all of us use it to get favours sometimess....hehehe
I've never used it and never would use it, but only because of fear of getting an STD. I keep doing the whole dating thing. It stinks and even when it works out with a hottie, I have to listen to all of her problems, which if my time is worth money means I'm paying 1000s of dollars to get laid. Prostitution seems much easier, and less dramatic.
This is why prostitution should be legal. There will always be a market for it, because people either can't get it consensually or their wives don't do the stuff they want them to do. Human nature is not going to change. It has been in play for millions of years. Instead of having a system where all the money is not taxable, and women can be forced against their will, why not allow women who enjoy it or need to make a good living but lack any real work skills to work for their livelihood? Why not use the tax money to fund better public schools or city colleges so our Western children do not have to resort to prostitution generations down the line?
Wonder how many illegal hispanic are guilty of the same thing here in the U.S.? People from third world countries have no respect for laws. They are all dirtbags and thugs.
THESE ARE CHILDREN NOT WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PR, you dirty old white Americans should stop going overseas and buying these slaves.
I saw this immediately thought they must be from Eastern Europe. Low and behold...
One the finest people I know in the world is a Romanian-American Doctor working in this country. He's an honest, generous, charitable, polite, self-effacing, person who's a great dad and husband. So, one has to judge people by their actions, not where they come from or what color their skin is.... I haven't found that denigrating/judging people in any kind of grouping- guilt by association, has worked for me.
Nice post. I found myself castigating all these derogatory posts by Romanians about the Roma people and was starting to view the Romanians collectively myself.
Salli Li what the f r u spouting on about? not all black men r pimps then n now. nor did they all want white women so bad that it led to raping. geez no wonder the world's all topsy turvy when we got space down ur manifasto of blubbering nonsense. unfortunately ur not the only one who has these maddening beliefs. but let's cut to the chase: i was a witness back in early 80's to a young woman being sold. my white pimp warned me not to say sh– to what we were witnessing or i would suffer the same fate.
I saw what I saw, and I stand by what I said, because it is true. Don't you know that the entire hip-hop culture kitsch is based on the reality that I truthfully related? The fact that you knew of a white pimp doesn't negate the truth of what I said. Please read the book "Critical Thinking", by Werkmeister. It lists the standard logical fallacies, and your lines of argument slide right over the edge into these logical fallacies in every case. Invective, card-stacking, bandwagon effect, glittering generalities, false line of reasoning from the particular to the general, etc. – these are all in your arguments and in the postings of my other misinformed critics. I will grant that pimping has never been a black monopoly, but in the later part of the mid 20th century, it came close to being so.
Sally Li...give it up! This is not about race or the color of ones skin...it is about the criminal element who can be any race or color. You sound like a lunatic and am glad that you are not my neighbor or even worse...my spouse! sheesh!
Sex is fun! I like!
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Men are pigs. Rape, murders, slavery, or war.....men are the instigators. Women that turn bad usually do it because of their menfolk. Am I right or am I right?
God created everyone equal. He didn't make men superior to women and no man has a right to treat women like an animal. As hard as it may be for some to say I have been raised to forgive. Despite the crime he has comided I have to forgive him and will let God judge him of his sins in the Final Judgement.
Savages. Give them each a thousand years in jail.
Every time I see Nancy Grace trying to find "the missing", it brings tears to my eyes because I know that 8 out of 10 that go missing are forced into sex trafficking. So sad and scary.
as a Romanian, I am embarrassed and ashamed to read this article. of course it is not my fault and there isn't much I can do about it, but spreading the word it is something powerful. prostitution and human trafficking exists all over the world. I spent nearly a year traveling in Asia in my life and there is a lot of human trafficking and prostitution there also. young girls in India and SE Asia are sold into prostitution at an extremely young age. that is so sad. when I traveled in Thailand, I saw a lot of old western man traveling with really young Thai girls.
I think the problem is that as long as there is a lot of demand for young prostitutes, there will be people who would like the make money off it. If you want to solve this problem, then solve the problems in this society. the old western man, who enjoy having a young prostitute. that is the big problem, the demand. once you solve that problem, there won't be a demand and no one will get into human trafficking since there will be no money to be made.
obviously there is a problem in Romania with the poor young women who come from dysfunctional families and get sold into prostitution. but that happens everywhere, in US, in Thailand, in India, everywhere. The fact that Romania is the center of human trafficking in Europe has only to do with the fact that it is now part of EU and it is easier to do this there. Romania is still poor compared to other EU countries. Even though I am ashamed about this article, I applaud all the people who put it together to raise the issue and try to solve it.
Human trafficking is bad no matter where it happens and has to stop. But the only people who can stop it is the ones who demand it: the western old men.
Anne-Marie...you are correct that this problem is world wide. Don't forget that this article is a newspaper article and while I agree that this issue should be sensationalized, I would question their statement naming just Romania as the central country in Europe for this type of criminal activity. It is widespread and not just on that continent.These criminals caught, just happen to be from Romania and the law has dealt with them.
When I read an article about a countryman of mine caught purchasing child sex, I am ashamed also but at least the international community has started to do something about it.
I think it's high time we rethink the criminal justice system all over the world, considering that nothing so far seems to be effective at curbing horrible crimes, such as slavery.
While I am a big proponent of the death penalty, I just won't push that idea here as most people recoil from the idea. So, I would like to propose the following: if you can't kill the flesh, then kill them as a member of the society...revoke ALL of their rights, etc.
So I propose to punish those in the slave trade as follows:
1) Seize ALL of their assets, even shared property (the cost of complicity should be very high).
2) After conviction, strip them of their passport, ID, etc. They are officially a nobody, as if they never existed. No access to ANY government programs, no access to any commons, no access to healtcare. They have the same legal rights as a raccoon or squirrel.
3) No one in law enforcement can talk to them unless they are reporting a crime. If they are reporting a crime in which they are the victim, law enforcement is to ignore it.
4) Once they serve their prison sentence (again, without ANY access to healthcare – if they die, so be it), they are released into the woods like a wild animal and told "good luck". If they starve, too bad. If they steal, they are to be rounded up, stripped again of all all property and sent back into the deep woods naked and defenseless in as bad of weather as possible. The best they can hope for is to live under the overpass in a "hobo house" refrigerator box and panhandle for change.
The good news is that Men are loosing their supremacy and becoming weak on erection....Viagra will be the norm of the future and few decades down the road....it won't work any more.....Whos is going to be the superpower then.....WOMAN and we are going to enslave the male all over.......Looking forward to that ....Iwill oredr a dozen at ALIBABA........Nowadays they cant make it erect on the initial stage.....and you wonder why GAY numbers are cropping up ....hehehehe
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This is terrible crime against humanity. Sex slavery is more widespread than most are aware of. Bezathreads.org is at the forefront of helping women and children out of sex slavery. Please take a look at this cause.
Thanks! I will.
Just like the word human traficking doesn't do justice in making the masses feel what it really means, the punishment metted out behind close doors doesn't make criminals feel the intensity of crime either. People like these should be hanged on street. May be this will serve as a deterent.
Human Trafficking it is very real and not fiction, it is a 35 billion dollars business a year. From Moldova to Guatemala, thousands of girls (and boys) are forced into this horrible kind of slavery. Whatever you live, find out the local number for Human Trafficking Task Force or so and keep in your cell, if you ever see something suspicious call them the report the situation, you don't have to identify yourself, but you can really save a live or lives of many. The traffickers in USA are in the Malls and always target the girls who usually have low self steam or are outgoing. Many of the cases we see on TV it is not a run away, they lied to them and next thing you know they awake up in another state after been raped and beat up. Please pay attention in the Malls and also truck stations on Interstates
I've always been on the fence about the death penalty, but for people who are involved in human trafficking who obviously have no regard for human life I want nothing but the death penalty for them.
Human trafiicking (Sex slavery) will never end since there is always demand for it, there are always perverts around amongst us, high number of boys/girls are being molested by either someone in the family or a very close friend......WHY? Even if there are no pimps there perverts around and we have to live with it. It's the (men) animalistic nature for fantasizing of having a new girl/boy to have se...x with, the more cries (either of pleasure or pain) one makes, a stimulant is being circulated on their system, that's why a husband cannot have an erection with his wife but when he is with a new girl he is having no problem. Sex is a dominant thing with man, the more cries and pain he can get from a partner the more satisfaction he gets.... Root cause are the millions of perverts who are all around us (the fathers, husband, brothers, uncles, relatives and friends.....), the pimps are facilitating the busines as there is demands.... Please don't get me wrong that I cordoned the pimps.....NO, I don't but they will never go away..... During all these wars going on.....Always there is RAPE alongside it....WHY....Whether iy's Afganistan, Iraq, Chechnya or Yugoslavia... It's all the same, it's MEN who have this animalistic nature of finding pleasure when forcing onto a defenceless victim.... A lot of perverts also on the discussion above..... It's aloosing battle....
You really have a lot of hate for the male gender dont your?
I am glad that these people were caught and I am glad the police sentenced them to 2 decades. It would have been better if they were given life-term sentence in jail. The sad thing about this is that at least the police in Britain still takes action. In many Third World and Developing countries, the police (no offence) are very corrupted. Many do not care if there is sex trafficking. The presidents always say that they will stop these kind of things but its just words, no action has been taken. Human trafficking is everywhere and maybe we can remove the big corporations but like many of you guys had mentioned, it won't end.
OK, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS AND ALSO THIS VIDEO CONTENT,NONE OF THEM POINTING THE TRUTH !! THE SAD TRUTH THAT NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR AND TO ACCEPT THAT ALL THESE GIRLS ARE NOT SLAVES AND ARE NOT TRAFFICKED !! THIS IS A COVER UP STORY TO LOOK GOOD FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!! ALL THESE GIRLS WHICH ARE GOING FOR PROSTITUTION, THEY KNOW FROM THE START WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO AND THAT IS TO SELL THEIR BODIES FOR MONEY AND AS WELL THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL SHARE THE MONEY WITH THEIR PIMP OR 'PROTECTOR' !!!!! NO PERSON IS CROSSING A BORDER WITHOUT HER OR HIS ACCEPTANCE !!! ROMANIA IS NOT THE BLACK SHEEP OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING,THERE ARE A LOT OF INTELLECTUALS, IT IS BASED ON 2000 YEARS OF HISTORY AND ROMANIA HAS A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL THINGS TO SHOW TO EVERYBODY...DON'T ALWAYS SHOW JUST THE DEEP MISERABLE PART OF ONE'S COUNTRY..THERE ARE ENOUGH CRACK HEADS, PSYCHOPATHS WHO KILL PEOPLE ON THE STREETS,DRUG DEALERS WHO ARE SELLING DRUGS TO KIDS IN SCHOOLS, FAGOTS AND PROSTITUTES,BANKS WHO KICK FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN OUT ON THE STREETS IN WINTER FOR ONE PAST DUE PAYMENT, THAT DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO POINT THE FINGER TO THE OTHER COUNTRIES WHICH ARE MORE NORMAL AND HEALTHIER IN MULTIPLE WAYS THAN USA !!
I wonder how many people are trafficked in the USA. It must be a lot. The funny thing is, black people talk all this stuff about how bad it was that they were slave, yet in their music they love to glorify pimps. And what is a pimp? Read the article above. Low life scum who sexually exploit any desperate and vulnerable person that they can. But in the USA, everywhere you go, you hear it blarin out speakers "Pimp this, pimp that, smack hoes, treat women like crap." And it is all about making $$$$$, no matter what you have to do, and being a pimp is the best thing somebody can do, besides murdering somebody and being put on death row.
Do you want the estimates or the truth. They are vastly different. If you read the articles and the comments, you will find both right here. You dont have to wonder.
And noted that force and restraint are NOT necessary to meet the definition of trafficking. This allows them to artificially beef up the numbers.
Oldest proffesions in the world prostitution and slavery. While I agree they a dispiciable, they will never ever cease to exist.
I am Romanian and so very angry with these characters and the way the p** on our country's image every single day. These persons are Rroma people, their own breed and they have nothing to do with Romania, except ofcourse that they were lucky enough to be born there. We are so tired of their actions in Europe and everywhere else but we can't kill them, they have rights. They have the right to multiply and have babies at the age of 10 and the right to steal, beg, murder and what not. And yes, we are racist.
Typical response...blame someone else for your so called image. The only response that I see on this site from Romanians is blatant, self-justified racism and intolerance, so you are creating a much worse image for all Romanians than the criminal element of your country!
Agreed.
As long as the number 1 destination of human slave/prostitute trafficking remains the US I think we need to clean our own nieghborhood first before we dictate to others what they should be doing.
How do you know that the US is the number one destination?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6497799.stm
Thailand, Japan, Israel, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Turkey and the US are the most common destinations of those traded.
I don't know which is more amusing: the Romanians' racist comments against their fellow citizens, just because they happen to be Roma and pretending that their country is blameless, OR the pretentious American comments accusing Romanians of racism and moral depravity of human trafficking, despite the ongoing racism in America against hispanics, muslims, and anyone not white Christian, all in a country known as the number one destination of human trafficking in the world!
You would be too, my dear fellow human, if you'd have lived in that country for years and years and be categorized as gipsy for the simple fact you are Romanian. But who am I to judge people, let God be the jugde.
Nice ad fail... My version of the page has an ad forViagra!
ma&pa when one man and one woman love one another and put each others needs before their own their share
Now, is the time to form an all-female, special forces to dispose of this trash and others like them. I will donate money!!!
So your answer to bias and prejudice is more of the same? You are a full blooded American. You believe that an intensification of methods already proven to fail will somehow produce a different outcome.
Read a 1984 book called the "March of Folly" which was written to describe US State dept failing policies. The March of Folly is defined as "the perverse persistence of poilcies demonstrably unworkable and counter productive". Can you think of anything that more accurately describes the US State Dept.?
Mmmm. I could go for a nice plate of hot turds and gravy!!
The problem is broken european justice system.
Sex trafickers are sub- humans.
In most of middle east contries punishment for a sex trafickers is 100 lashes and being hanged in public.
25 years of prison is a joke sentence for these animals.
Fix your broken justice system!
WHAT AN ISSUE TO ELICT SUCH DEBATE,WHY NOT TRY LOVE ONE ANOTHER????
You know, we are just following animal nature. Which, for all intensive purposes we are. Granted we have somewhat higher brain function and opposable thumbs...but still animals. We have too many people on this planet already. So we have to lose some on the back end. Just won't be me.
what i dont get is that they dont make a big deal out of it just a little news press but if it was A MUSLim country it would be all over the news fox cnn bbc al jazeera but this doesnt get to much attention just a few adds here and there shame on all these people God will punish these bastards.
SHUT UP you stupid liar.
I think that Human Trafficking should carry the same punishment as being a terrorist, no second chances. They did the crime once, who knows how many people they hurt that one time, so they should pay with their life (electric chair). No mercy for animals like this.
Actually, the US is a huge player in the human trafficking industry – just as much as any other country. If you read the person's trafficking report that was released in June of 2010 by Hilary Clinton you will actually hear the govt take responsibility for the US's part in this industry instead of just point out other countries, but my guess is you dont really educate yourself much to know the facts – you'd rather just make unrational accusations. And to Darma's comment – that you are a disgusting person whose sick thoughts will come back to haunt you and you will be judged in the end no matter what you believe. We are more than animals because we know right from wrong. Animals dont enslave one another and hold themselves hostage to be raped and tortured over and over and over again. Those victims are someone's mother, daughter, children, etc. The thought that humans are just "animals" is exactly the problem and I wouldnt be suprised if you took part in some type of sadistic human torture yourself. I would encourage all of the people who have commented on this post to go out and find out the facts about trafficking and find a way you can contribute to fighting it instead of letting small minded people take away from the real cause with ignorant comments. Please visit these sites: Polaris Project: http://www.polarisproject.org/
US Trafficking in Persons report: http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2010/
Not For Sale: http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/
For those of you who want to watch something that will bring this closer to home – dont watch "TAKEN" see an independent film called "Trade" : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399095/
And if you want to know why this #2 illegal industry has no awareness? It's because people are making money, alot of money, people that are big players in the govt all over the world including the US. Ignorance is bliss and what they dont see "doesnt hurt them". Every year we put out a report, say we are working on the problem to satisfy the people and then shove the problem under the rug. This has been going on for years. Let's do something to stop it.
To who ever looks at this as a ploy to bag America is nothing but a toolbag. This is about young children against their will being raped beaten and murdered. I'm from the us and let me tell u people u have no idea who we are. This comes down to someones little girl is being terrible miss treated and should not be condoned in any fashion by welcoming women or willing johns governments states tribes or what ever else people deserve to be treated kindly what out for America you think u know all but u are fooling ur self u want to know americans watch dirty jobs Alaska crab fishing axe men this is what americans are not obama or pelosi or reid were hard working and want better for every generation after us and if that means abolishing prostitution we will do it because we are always better men and that's why you all aspire to be like us grow up and treat human beings like people and not rats
I think it is kinda sadning. So many post imply or at least seem to be implying, that the simple fact that they might be Roma leads to the logic consequence of -in this case- slavery, in other cases, other crimes. Also noticeable is that a lot of this implications come from Romanians. Wanting us -the others (general speaking, I know) – to believe that they are not to be confused with those terrible Roma.
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