Editor’s Note: CNN Freedom Project this week is reporting from the front lines in the fight against sex trafficking - not in the poverty-stricken developing world but in affluent Orange County near Los Angeles, where prostitutes are now treated as trafficking victims rather than criminals.
By Martin Savidge
Anaheim, California (CNN) - It feels odd to be in a car sat next to a guy texting a pimp. Even more odd, he's pretending to be a prostitute. It can all get a little strange in the digital pursuit of human traffickers.
I'm sitting in the front seat of an SUV in a part of Orange County, California only the locals see - where the hotels are not chains and have names that cops and criminals alike know well. The "prostitute" beside me is actually Sergeant Craig Friesen.
Nearby, either parked or patrolling, are four other vehicles holding the rest of his undercover team.
Earlier, we saw a pickup truck in a parking lot across the street approaching several women. The guy wasn't having much luck - which was too bad since he was on Friesen's crew.
Over the radio the detective relayed that after propositioning one lady she did offer a sex act - telling him he should go F$@# himself.
It's an example of how prostitution can bring down a neighborhood, making it so a woman can't go to the store without being harassed by some john who's looking for sex.
Despite the area being known for the sex trade, things are slow. Either the team's cover was known or it was an off day. Every business has them.
Then the undercover cop in the pickup gets lucky. He picks up a petite African American girl wearing blue patterned shorts and top. They drive off and we fall in behind trailing at a distance in the noon hour traffic.
Out of nowhere a black and white police car pulls in behind the pickup. The lights flash, the "whoop, whoop" sounds and the pickup is pulled over. Friesen guns the SUV, roaring past the scene and into a nearby alley.
We get out and head back to what appears to be a busted undercover operation but the sergeant's not upset - this is all part of the plan.
Friesen has the girl take a seat on the curb as the patrol car blocks her from passing traffic. He comes down to her level and begins the most important part of the whole operation - he needs to earn her trust and her confidence.
He begins by explaining she's not under arrest. It's in keeping with the new attitude of law enforcement that prostitutes are victims, controlled and manipulated by their pimps. They are caught up in the worldwide plague of human trafficking. And they try to help the victims escape.
Friesen is trying to get the woman to turn her pimp in. Eventually, Friesen tells her, she will be brought back to police headquarters and placed in the care of social services, who will offer her a place to live and a way off the street so she's not dependent on the pimp for her needs.
The young woman listens but doesn't buy it. She stays silent. Eventually Friesen gives up and she is taken away. But the sergeant has hung on to her cell phone.
He sees texts on the phone that appear to come from her pimp, and he responds as if he is the woman. Which is how I came to be seated in an SUV in Anaheim with a prostitute, um, pretend prostitute.
Since her guy thinks she's gone off with a client, Friesen waits a while, then sends the message that the client left her at a hotel and she needs the pimp to pick her up. He gives the location as a hotel Friesen and his team have already staked out.
A reception committee of several armed officers waits inside the hotel, other spotters are nearby, and Friesen and I are parked across the street as he continuously sends messages to the pimp. "He left come get me."
Then there's a problem.
The pimp texts back he wants her to call him which, of course, Friesen can't do. He quickly improvises and texts back the phone has a problem: "My phone trippin'" and she can only text.
He knows it's a weak ploy... But what else can he do? The fingers still fly and the digital conversation goes on, but it becomes pretty clear the pimp is suspicious.
The team continues to wait, but after an hour the pimp's a no-show and the texts stop coming. The operation is finally called off.
Months later, through phone records and surveillance, they finally turn this virtual conversation into a real arrest.
But although they think they have the man who they suspect is forcing a young woman into prostitution, the district attorney's office doesn't find enough evidence to make charges stick, and the man is let go.
The end result is something Friesen and his team have grown to accept. A young woman was pulled off the street and offered the opportunity for help. Sometimes that's all you can hope for.
Victims my azz... they are just as much the problem... give me a break
I agree. But, do some more reading on the subject. You'll find it's not so easy.
Nothing in life is "easy." Welsome to reality. Deal with it.
Pimping ain't easy
Exactly!! Lets make people who rob convienience stores "Victims" because they need the money. Total BS!!!
Agreed. They are selling their bodies by their choice. They are victims of their own volition.
So you believe that these women do this because they want to? There are many reasons, but when a pimp is involved it is usually under duress. The targets here are the pimps, not the hos.
And you know this how? The reality is, you have no idea how any woman ends up on the street. I also find it very hard to believe that any young girl is out there of her volition.
rickt probably has to buy it so he says this to alleviate his guilt.
I disagree with Shootmyownfoot, "for it is hard out there for a pimp, when you are trying to make money for the rent, for when the Cadillac and gas money is spent, there are a whole lot of bi*c&es jumping ship." Just watch Hustle and Flow, and you will know what I am talking about...haha
We are all victims in the universe that lacks personal responsibility.
Just how might you have come by this absolutely "certain" knowledge?
you are 100% right...
Pimps eat children; their innocence, their hearts, and their minds. Pimps destroy lives and rejoice in the destruction, and our entertainment culture is OK with that.
They are victims.
I suspect you are a pimps or a johns, you are pathetic losers either way.
Agreed. What a bunch of losers that don't think these women are victims. They obviously didn't see the video and there are many of false organizations that prey on young women (and men too) and then cell them off from society.
but how does this benefit the corporate prison machine???
Go do some research on human trafficking and then tell me this is their choice.
Perhaps at least "lesser evil", and they're after the big evil, the pimps. Sure, it's their fault they get caught up on drugs or whatever initially, but once hooked, it's hard to stop. Pimps prey on that weakness. Many of these women come from very troubled homes too, probably "victims" their entire lives.
I agree that the children (12 – 14 yrs old, etc.), but adults - yes, including the 17 year old they featured here - know exactly what they're doing.
Its like in this country folks are just confused. One minute they want to portray women as being "strong," "equals," etc. But the next minute women aren't responsible for any of their actions. A man - any man - is at fault for all that happens to her.
Give me a break.
Some grown women are involved in Human trafficking too. They are abused all day everyday and will be killed or wish they were killed if they try and escape. They ARE victims, just as people who have been kidnapped because in most cases they have too–and cut off from their families and life as they knew it. How are these women NOT victims?
Not "a man, any man" but the specific man who beats her, threatens her, takes her money. That man is responsible for his own actions, forcing her to perform criminal and degrading acts. This isn't about sweeping generalizations about men that you might take personally because you have laughed at crude jokes, or got called out at work for harassment. This is about men who use fear, violence, intimidation, trickery, drug addiction, and torture against these women. "A man, any man" doesn't do those things, it takes a very warped sort of person to do that.
the men who pay these women are criminals and need to be locked up!
Repeat offenders should be castrated!
As should the nasty women too – who CHOOSE to break the law by selling their bodies.
As should the nasty women too – who CHOOSE to break the law by selling their bodies. Repeat offending ho's need to be mutilated "down there".
If the women are of legal age and its their decision to sleep with someone for money....what is the harm...its her life and the man's life...
.any different than someone sleeping with someone after dinner and a movie...so judgemental and having goverment in private lives....has been around for 1,000's of years this business and some people are always shocked...really....
You're argument falls flat if the woman is underaged
The Secret Service could be helpful in this endeavor.
GREAT IDEA TRANSMITTING THE GAME PLAN TO THE PIMPS BY TELLING THIS STUPID STORY? WHY DONT YOU PUT THE GUYS NUMBER UP ALSO SO HE KNOWS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR HIM AND THEN GET THE GIRL BEATEN UP FOR GIVING UP HER PHONE. VICTIM????? HARD TO SAY
Did you read the story? The police were working *with* the reporter. Obviously the *police* don't mind that this story is known otherwise they wouldn't have had the reporter *there* for the operation.
Yeah, the pmp is reading CNN to find out if the police are after him. uh-huh.
Very true, it's a known fact in the industry that those not walking the streets (incalls) keep at least 33% of the money and they can make over a hundred an hour in fees and tips. Poor victims.
In this economy, people will do what they need to to feed their children. Don't judge to quickly. There, but for the grace of god...go you!
It sounds like you are one of those nasty ho's yourself. Has anybody ever told you what a clueless nasty.knt you are?
Mark...me thinks mayhaps thou doth protest too much.
Step AWAY from the judgemental drama dude....you MAY appear less idiotic.....maybe.....:-)
My 2 cents...
Translation: I want to stick my head in the sand and make a simply black and white pronunciation so I can feel good about myself.
license the prositutes, legalize it and control the area it happens in. no pimps. make the penalties for non-licensed activities (or hiring a non-licensed prost) very steep.
Excellent idea. That way the police could drop in unannounced at irregular intervals to make sure everyone is a consenting adult. Scarce law enforcement resources could be used to rescue genuine victims, instead of harassing consenting adults.
That has already been tried in Nevada. It works very well. No victims, only adult workers.
Many are underage. A large portion of them go through a torture process that binds them to their pimp. It is similar to the processes used by authoritarian governments to increase loyalty except it adds rape.
Your moral outrage doesn't change what is actually happening.
OK, Let me pimp u then. You do have a nice ass, very much in demand. OH, you are not going to be the victim though, but you will be in serious pain if you don't put out.
Yes victims Scott. You need to get out more and understand that slavery is alive and well even in America. It is people like you that allow this to flurish.
They're just as culpable as the "pimps". Another example of gender bias in the legal system...when will it end?
"It feels odd to be in a car sat next to a guy..." did someone make you sit there ? You were "sitting" next to a guy unless of course this happened in the UK.
This is the first thing I thought. Very FIRST line of the article? What is wrong with writers today?
It was a typo. It should have been "in a car seat next to a guy".
I should read "I shat" next to a guy. Past tense of, wwll, you know.
to my point.. my daughter is going to think I'm crazy when she finds out how badly I want to pimp my blog over pnipimg her ride. I would much rather have my blog pimped out any day!! So.. I am gladly and
It's proper, Craig. In this context, "sat" implies deference and acceptance of a privilege; the cop sat him in the car, a car that the cop had dominion over and the reporter was there as a guest. "Sitting" would imply individual aggressiveness and dominion over the space. In a cop car, by permission or invitation, you are "sat" by someone else (cop) :).
How can they be victims? They sell themselves and get paid. If somewhere down the road they get attacked, well that goes with the territory, their choice.
Annna you soound like a Real Republican Job creator..
And you sounds like a bigot. Congratulations.
And you sound like a racist or bigot or both.
Didn't your boy Billy pimp out a young lady not old enough to drink?
Human trafficking not hoez.big difference.
Yeah "Marcia", you Republicans are SO oppressed, and are the victims of SUCH bigotry... Please, cry some more, and tell me how hard you have it in America.
yes.....rupubs have it easy and libs are all victims of the repubs. that is how you libbies roll isnt it.......
If they have a pimp they DON'T get paid. The Pimp takes 100% of the money.
That's a choice too.
Sometimes, Darias, it's not a choice. Some "pimps" basically gave these women 2 choices: slavery or death. Not much of a choice there.
A choice for you, maybe not for someone else.
No, chickie, they sell themselves because someone makes them do it through threats or intimidation. That's the premise of this article – "to catch a PIMP."
I agree that some may be victims of forced dependency – but not all.
They should just make it legal like in Nevada much less problems that way. This is just another non issue made into a huge problem clogging up our prisons and court system.
You mean like they made alcohol legal and now we have "no problems" with it? As long as you don't count the 50 Americans who get killed EVERY DAY due to alcohol-related traffic accidents. Not to mention all the other horror stories. Making something legal doesn't make it stop being an issue. I'm sure even all the anti-gun people would agree with me on that one.
And things were SOOO much better under prohibition right?
I think John is saying that just legalizing something doesn't get rid of the problems associated with it.
3 comments up...3 people who have no idea what happens to the majority of these girls, MANY in their early teens, and how they ended up on the streets. I guess blaming a homeless 14 year old for working the streets accomplishes a lot.
Don't feel too bad if your daughter gets wrapped up in it somehow and is forced into it. It would be her fault right?
You are talking about kidnapping, or forced labor, or slavery, NOT PROSITUTION. Get on the subject. I agree with punishment on the first 3, but not on the last soley because you think some of them MIGHT have got their that way. Same goes for any business. If IBM did the same thing, I'd punish them. If they did that, punish them for THAT.
The topic IS human trafficking. Did you forget to read the article before commenting?
Once again the police wasting time on Victimless crimes...its like the police going into a strip club and busting girls for lap dances, its there choice, they want to make quick money then so be it...leave them alone!!
Agreed. This is best adressed by social worker NOT the legal system.
Once you have a "manager" telling these women what to do, when to do it, what their rates are, and taking money from them, it stops being victimless. I agree, there is a way to do it that should be legal, because it is victimless, but the example in the article isn't it.
Sounds like a regular job to me!
so every job with a manager that tells their employees what to do and takes a cut is criminal? i knew my boss was a crook
I've never had a boss threaten to kill me if I don't want to work for them. I've never had a boss threaten violence towards my kid. I've never had a manager grab my hair and hold me down while a "client" uses my services in an alley.
You must have a very different workplace than I do.
You are naive. Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?
It's about time law enforcement is seeing this for what it really is- vulnerable women victimized by the lowest of the low.
A free willing particiapnt is not a victim. If she was, then it was done by FORCE. Using FORCE is illegal, hence the participating part would be irrelivent.
David- a MINOR cannot consent to 3 e X.............in case you were not aware or care, and of course, being a man, you probably don't.
So fearing that your pimp will beat you or possibly kill you doesn't imply any force?
What if I feared my boss at Bank of America? How about IBM? How about Government? ALL are dealt with based on THIS. Not becasue IBM seels computers, but because they created vio lence in the workplace. F ear and vi olence has NOTHING to do with the ACT of prost it ution. FE AR and VIO LENCE are an act of it's own and should be accountable for.
David, how thick are you? Do you understand that not every person that works the streets are doing so by choice? Do you understand anything at all?
There isn't a 14 year old girl out their that likes their junk pounded day in and day out by fat, sweaty 50 year old strangers. You guys are beyond naive to think these girls do this as part of some life long dream.
Child labor is child labor, chilld molest. is just that. It shoul dbe punished in ANY industry. This has NOTHING to do with prosti tution. Only an idi ot would lump them together.
I understand FORCE is FORCE. ANY force by ANYTONE in ANY company is illegal. Prosti tution is NO exception. Why on earth would any intelligent human think that advocating for prosti tution is advocating for force, violence , and underage criminal acts that are ALREADY in the BOOKS. as illegal and punishable by law?
David, they are not willing. Don't be so stupid or at least keep it to yourself.
I do NOT consider selling a minor as prost itution. iI consider it slave labor deserving of FAR worse punishemnt than any prosit ution charge should bring. Completely seperate instances. I refuse to lump the two togther.
Thank you for having common sense, David.
Same goes for any business. IBM for instance. If they are making a child work in their office, they are commiting the same crime. It has NOTHING to do with prositution, it's about illegal laboring children.
Valerie...David seems to think that child trafficking is not a big epidemic in which the majority of those on the street fall into that group.
I am willing to bet that the girl they are talking about in this story is underage or was when she met her pimp.
Kind of unreal how blind some peope could be to whats going on.
I'm NOT you. I don't JUDGE by THOUGHT. Nothing stated any of your claims. WHEN they do, their WILL be punishemnt that fits the crime. But ASSUMPTIONS are the root of all evil.
Don't try to sell your holier than thou BS by trying to lump a terrible crimal act with the oldest act on earth that hurt nobody. They are NOT THE SAME.
Thank you for providing such hard facts to prove your point. Your comment did not contain any subjective speculations based on ignorance at all.
I agree. He is blind and refuses to see. If I see one more post from him comparing this to "business at IBM" I think I might throw up.
I compared IBM to your word "fe ar".
If cigerrettes became illega. You know how much violence would be in that market? A LOT LOT LOT LOT LOT more than their is today, which is virtually NONE. Why? Becasue it isn't illegal. It's NOT prosit utiion that is causing thecrimanl activities to happen. It's the act of it being illegal to begin with.
However, in the cae you speak. Their are additional charges. Like possibly se x charges with a minor. Which is appropriate.
BTW, the main reason their is violence in prost itution is becasue it is illegal. Just like drugs. Make something illegal, you attract criminals to run it. If it was legal and regulated, it would be no more violent than ordering a pizza. And not ONE child would ever be used. This would FIX all your real concerns if you were so rightous.
I quit reading at the first sentence because there is a typo in the first sentence which proves whatever is written here wasn't even proofread once
You do know that spelling and grammar flames are certain to include spelling and grammar errors of their own, right? You may not be as smrt as you think you are.
Errors included in this comment intentionally, because spelling isn't what's importand here.
"I quit reading at the first sentence because there is a typo in the first sentence which proves whatever is written here wasn't even proofread once"
...or maybe you meant:
I had to quit reading after the first sentence because it contained a typo, which proved that whatever was written here wasn't proofread even once.
If you are going to play the role of the spelling and grammar police, tread lightly and proofread your comments.
I don't care. These people have done nothing to me. Give me my dang money back if this is what you are going to use it for.
"Well, folks, Sarah Palin has admitted she tried marijuana several years ago, but she did not like it. She said it distorted her perceptions, impaired her thinking, and she's hoping that the effects will eventually wear off." —Jay Leno
They did not wear off.
Men are always the bad guys, dunchano? Women can do no wrong and are always the victims. When bad things happen it's always the men's fault.
so true! That's why men out number women in prison 17 to 1!
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foremost lock up the men buying these acts – then lock up the pimps – and do undo them as they have done to others
I really thought this article was going to be about international recording superstar Sting bringing these perverts to justice.
Since when is Anaheim "affluent?"
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Since WHEN!? I was expecting Newport Beach or the equivalent. Not Anaheim.
I knew there was reasons I did not come down to the comments section. You people make me sick. The people that do this for money are typically the ones that want to do it legally, yes there may be some that look to profit but if you are working for a pimp, you are not profiting. Threats of violence, controlling your cash as well as your transportation is regular. They may be getting paid, but most of that money would go to the pimp, leaving them with very little. So yes, they are victims.
How do you know if the guy's a pimp or if he's just her driver hanging on to her money and looking out for her safety?
because I live in the real world, not a romantic comedy about a working girl with a heart of gold.
@rbnlegend101 any facts or real life experiences to back up your claim?
How do you manage to get out of bed in the morning?
@MNMartin very smart and insightful comment. I can tell you've put a lot of thoughts into that.
Reality is tough, friend, but we all must learn to make our way in a world that respects only survival.
Replace the word 'Pimp' with 'Employer' in your rant and you'll see that ALL working people are being screwed over by the company they work for.
True... Though your average employer won't get you strung up and leave your body in a dumpster when you've ODed or out-lasted your value. Talk about your sub-par working environment...
I am checking my time sheet, and my employer hasn't beaten me this pay period. He hasn't taken my lunch or threatened my kid with violence. If I want to tell him I am going to work elsewhere, he politely wishes me the best of luck on my future endeavors, he doesn't tell me I can't and beat me, then kill me if I leave anyway.
Sorry, no, viewing the pimp as an employer doesn't work. Or, if you insist on that, then his employees have many valid legal complaints, both civil and criminal, and he has some serious tax problems.
Fact: Most pimps rape their victims.
I was illegaly fired after I hurt my back. Company paid me not to sue. That company/industry I worked for brings in new young bodys every year. After your body is damaged, you are replaced. I have seen it time and time again.
Yeah ok..."VICTIM"...i feel so sorry for the girl...booo hooo...
Selling is legal. Fooking is legal. Why isn't selling fooking legal?
Only in California can the criminals be victims. What a sick society California fosters.
How naive you are. These girls are forced into it.
Keep drinking that kool-aid. These "girls" make the choice that they want drugs more than self-respect so they will do whatever it takes to get the money. They make a choice. They are responsible for the consequences. Otherwise everyone is a victim and no one bears personal responsibility for her actions.
Didn't Rush Limbaugh say similar things about drug addicts, prior to the public revelation of his own addiction?
When bad things happen in your life, I hope you can look back on these days, when you think that everything is a choice, with fond memories and a warm smile.
There's an old proverb: "For every hundred men hacking away at the branches of a diseased tree, only one will stoop to inspect the roots."
Easy for people who were born and raised in positions of privilege to condemn what certain others do to survive. All I see in these comments are Monday morning quarterbacks passing judgment with no understanding of what life is like for the people they are coming down on. Jump on your unicorns and ride on back to Wonderbreadland, people, and play another round of Bingo with your church groups.
this was the best comment i have read in a long time!
Why only women are the men/boys too disgusting for you or maybe you don’t feel like a white knight? Saving a boy not sell papers? I kind of puked a little after reading this.
Yes, these women are victims. They victims of a society. Do you think a person choices to sell there body because they want to? Are kidding me? Human trafficking is a complex cycle of dominates and there are countless victims.
People working 9-5 at a cubicles or doing some crappy construction work are also victims of society. If we had a choice to not do stuff we didn't want to do, everyone would be at home.
@darchd, I would have to agree. These people are not very bright or empathetic. Thanks for not being like them.
Elena, reading the majority of the comments here, I find it hard to imagine most of the people here can understand what you are saying.
These are not very bright or empathetic people.
You mean brainwashed. Like you are. THhnking it's the act of prosti tution that brings out these criminal acts, instead of knowing the real truth that it is because it is illegal. Why aren't you advocating about alocohol being illegal? There are slews of criminal activities in selling that stuff. NO, wait, sorry, their WAS when it was illegal. It STOPPED once it became legal. Imagine that, something becomes SAFER when it becomes legal. That just cannot COMPUTE in your mind can it?
So what you're saying is one is only capable of empathy if he empathizes with women. If one empathizes with a men then he's not very bright or capable of empathy?
I can empathize with the cop in this story. If you empathize with the other men in this story, the client, or the pmp, that isn't something to be proud of.
Legalize it and regulate it and you take the power out of the pimp's hands. If a person is desperate enough to sell her (or him) self or even if she just loves it and wants to make money off what she's good at, why make them criminals to do so? Men and women work through brothels that are regulated like any other business. They pay taxes, they get health coverage and stability.
The pussification of America continues...
Many of these girls are kidnapped you idiot
Even more of them arent, idiot. Dont believe every lying "pro" who wants to avoid responsibility for her choices
Most of them aren't kidnapped.
No wonder Calimexico is Broke. All those wasted resources for Nothing.
Next up, treating drug dealers as the victims.
You are naive
For your analogy to work, it would be treaating the drug addicts as the victims. Which, surprise surprise, has been shown to be an effective approach.
Any woman that has a pimp is owned and is a slave. If she is a one-woman show, then that is her choice alone. But pimps eat children; their innocence, their hearts, and their minds. Pimps destroy lives and rejoice in the taking, and our culture is OK with that.
I wouldn't necessarily call them a 'victim', but I think the approach the officers are using is a better one. Locking these women up or giving them a criminal record does nothing to help or change their situation
More male/female double-standards in law enforcement.
And that is the underlying goal. It is not to protect women, but to drive a wedge between men and women even deeper. If the goal were to protect women, they would recognize the Nevada example and consider legalization, but as once said "It is impossible to get somone (the police in this case) to understand something when thier job depends upon not understanding it"
Seriously, I don't understand how someone can write something to post on an established mainstream news website without even going back and reading their own article to check for errors. Makes absolutely no sense and is rather infuriating that such incompetence seems to be the standard in online journalism. READ WHAT YOU JUST TYPED UP AND CHECK YOUR OWN D*MN COPY FOR ERRORS LIKE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AN OUNCE OF RESPECT FOR THE WRITTEN WORD.
Sarah Palin pimps her daughter Bristol.
Vent all you like, bro, just keep taking your meds. K?
it would seem that you are the real twit, palintwit... i'm betting that you're 45 years old and have been living in your parents basement your entire life, right? and they are paying for your internet service too, aren't they, you internet troll.
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I give up. I'm removing CCN link. I cannot type anthing without being moderated. And I haven't said one deragotory word yet.
Have a nice life CNN.
David,you are being moderated by CNN for your close minded capitalist views!! I bet you're a republican.
I am a 45 year old virgin. Should I just kill myself and get it over with
or take a trip to Las Vegas.
I'd go with Vegas
Interesting how you do not even have to be under arrest and cops can confiscate and use your phone. I would say, keep your phone password protected from illegal search and seizure by cops.
same with your computer. protect it with a good password and it becomes a paperweight for anyone else.
I agree that these women are victims but I would never cooperate with the police if they said that are trying to help me like they were that women. The police have already established themselves as bullies that lie to get what they want and it would take some serious effort on their part to prove otherwise.
Why did CNN put this article under "politics"? Are they insinuating that politicians are-all-hoars?
Thank God I read through the article and found out it was in CA. At first I thought it was in NV but then I realized, wait a minute, this is legal in NV so there wouldn't be any traffickers there. The working girls get tested, have health insurance, sick days, etc just like any other legal business. However keep it Illegal and violence and victimization is bound too occur.
Nevada is the inconvenient truth isn't it?
Looks to me like the cop in that picture is getting himself a free eyeful of the goods!!!!
Aparently you dont realize the cops are the ones that make all this possible. And yes, I do know from experience.
Of course they are victims! Arent we all? I mean really, we surely cannot be accountable for our actions. It must be societies fault ! Now bring me a little nookie. :)
This ain't worth my tax dollars.
Frankly, why do we have so many in such a profession?
Because whatever "Laws" the Moralist creeps pass, society has need of such people/such operations. And, therefore, people willing to work in such operations.
You saw it yourself in this article. She certainly knows the Fuzz can transport her across the country, give her new ID, citizenship, etc. if she rats on her associate. But she'd just get welfare living for 1-3 years, then out on the street again once she couldn't pay rent on even a lousy apartment working 2 or 3 jobs the way our lousy economy is. On the other hand she's making a mountain of money and frankly I bet she and her 'manager' are sane enough to tuck away some of the money and will actually have retirement accounts, something workers will no longer have as retirement funds are raided by Romney types and investments destroyed by Wall Street types.
I say "Boycott Cop Culture" look up the essay by Peter Lamborn Wilson.
I say go on jury duty and "Nullify" this ridiculous charade. Let cops bust employers that hire illegals. Let cops actually chase the people who rob you, mug you, destroy your house when you are at work, not sit on street corners and write tickets or sit on their rears and pretend to be teenage girls on the internet.
I couldnt have said it better myslef, and I agree with you 100% Lets all refuse to convict people for so-called "morals" offenses.
If they had the protections of legal employment they wouldn't be
victims, and there wouldn't be trafficking. Just like weed. These
are more attempts at society to control over the line than crimes.
I clicked on this thinking it was Sting the musician
If they aren't really after the women or johns, why the hell don't they just legalize it and eliminate all this nonsense...
This is a symptom not the disease. Law enforcement has been looking the other way on illegal immigration for decades. When law enforcement looks the other way, criminals are going to seize the opportunity. The police have been inventing excuses to ignore entire communities for years. Now they can't tell the wheat from the chaff. Not all illegal immigrants are pimps and drug dealers, of course, but they do provide the perfect legal and political smoke screen for the gangsters. When you couple that with law enforcement policies that deliberately avoid enforcing laws, you're going to have problems.
It's like Orwell and Huxley got together and wrote an article!
Everyone, look at me!! I'm so cool! I know famous authors!
explicatia pe care a dat-o lil' kim la Cribs, cred, nu mai tin minte, cand stai la stopuri, sa vada si cei din msniaa din spatele tau ceva
they only let you post what cnn agrees with here.....pointless to even have an opinion.
Everybody's a victim in Obama's America. Making the public believe that is how he got elected. Hopefully, we're smarter now and won't re-elect him, but probably not. It's much easier to play the victim, and Americans have gotten used to doing that.
I tend to agree, but I doubt anyone is going to give up the low road of victim status and start taking responsibility.
Yes, because nobody displayed any of those behaviors 3 and a half years ago... nope not at all. No, not until that dang-gum blasted nigrah' took office, right?? Honestly, I hope you never find out (because it would be far too SCARY if you ever caught a glimpse of) how big a friggin' meatheaded TOOL you are... just FYI!
should be legalized and confined to well regulated areas. Since the gov is regulating it, they should also provide for the social need to be met.
Oh, that Sting – is there anything he can't do?
Two words: Jack Bauer. That'll solve the "not enough evidence" problem!
As long as there is a demand, there will be supplies. Quit giving them business and they should disappear.
"...you don't have to put on the red light!"
I like Eddie Murphy's version better.
Cool... I rob a bank and I'm considered a victim!!!!!
you become the victim when you meet you cellmate called "RINO". 6,6' 300 lbs and no neck. but don't worry, you'll never see him. because he's always behind you.
"RINO" = Republican In Name Only. Interesting that you shoose that acronymn as the moniker for your mythical pedophile.
laws are about control. the more people in jail, the more people under control. america is a police state and prison nation. try to expose the truth about what REALLY is going on, and you will wind up in prison or dead. no wonder jesse ventura moved to mexico and seeks citizenship there. WHY IS IT THAT JESSE VENTURA WHO WAS ONCE A NAVY SEAL, FEELS SAFE LIVING IN MEXICO?
I had not heard he moved to Mexico, but I am not surprised. Our culture and system is so flawed from so much corruption and abuse by lobbyists, special interest groups, and grandstanders.
C'mon...lets face it...Jesse is kind of a nutjob...he's very entertaining though.
that's what they want you to believe.
she was lied to. "we aren't going to arrest you". what you exercise your right to silence. steal your phone get in the car.
Legalize it, tax it, put em brothels, get monthly std checks etc..... We waste way too much time and money on attempting to enforce "moral" crimes.
Were they need to come is san bernardino ca n get these drug dealers, killers n hoes of the street along with the crackheads n hobos.. Cops out here dont care
Another dumb liberal theory that everyone is a victim.
The cops are the ones that came up with this approach. Are you calling them fuzzy headed liberals? Look pal, the cops just want the streets to be safe and they'll use the techniques that work best. Arresting the girls doesn't seem to help resolve thing. If you can get them to flip on their pimps then maybe that will work better.
... just like the drugs on war ... this is something that cannot be made to disappear by prohibition ...
Wow, there really is NO basement to the complete lack of accountability/responsibility women are afforded in our society...
what about our government? what are they ever held accountable or responsible for?
i couldn't agree with you more. next thing californicate will do is allow adults to sue their parents for whatever reason. pretty sick state...
Plenty of girls who get into this trade do it simply for the money, they're not victims, they just want quick easy money and all they have to do is sit on a dick for 30 minutes to a hour.
WOW, TYPE THE WRONG WORD AND YOUR MESSAGE IS AWAITING MODERATION. which means CENSORED!
So is a wife in an abusive relationship a victim???she chooses to stay in the home, she can leave at anytime, right? Idiots...
Yes, a wife in an abusive home is a victim. The most dangerous time for a women in an abusive relationship is the two weeks after leaving. It's when most murders due to domestic violence happen. That's if she can leave. Police are half-hearted if at all caring in protecting these women, funding for programs which can help and protect them are consistently cut, people continually blame the women for getting beat and not leaving instead of blaming the men who are doing the beating, laws treat hitting women as less of a crime than when a stranger hits a stranger (like, the pain is somehow less or women "deserve" it). Again, easy to judge when you have not spent any time with a domestic violence victim. Easy to think "I'd leave." You have no clue. These women aren't walking out of the house one night to return the next day for their things and their children. They are leaving with the clothes on their back (if they are lucky), sometimes they are forced to leave children to save their lives, and if they are lucky to leave with their kids, they have nothing when they leave, no money, no house or household goods, and most often no job (because he wouldn't let her work – she'd have money to leave him if she worked). The guy has lied to everyone and made her look like the "bad person" so often times also has no one who believes her. We have a culture that blames women for all problems while leaving men looking like victims. And, the best part, should one of us have enough and defend ourselves against an abusive man, we get sent to prison for very long sentences. Standing up and winning in a domestic violence situation doesn't happen very often. The system and our culture makes dang sure they can't. Get educated – spend some time in your local Domestic Violence office. Hopefully the stories you hear about how sadistic domestic violence perps really are may give you something to think about.
They need some follow up with mental health services and social services, otherwise they're back on the street.
Recidivism rates are always high.
Make it legal for god sakes.
Develop rules, health plans, security, legal age, taxes. And let woman who want to make money like this do it safely.
Here is an idea. Legalize it and regulate it. Get the women off the streets and legalize it. Require regular testing of the workers and put strict working conditions on those that participate in it. Extra tax revenue and the gangs will take a huge hit. Problem solved.
Looks like the cop in the photo is taking a beaver shot with his cell phone!
I agree with our lads in Amsterdam, legalize it for the most part as well as marijuana.
Would be a huge hit to the crime in our great nation and maybe we could actually control it then.
Wow – what a great legal defense – they are women so they are incapable of making decisions on their own. Only the man can be responsible – what ignorant PC crap.
Wow – what a great legal defense – they are women so they are incapable of making decisions on their own? Only the man can be responsible – what ignorant PC crap.
anything made illegal only drives it underground and feeds a complex system of criminals and parasites. many people get hurt, diseased, and killed. i guess the government didn't learn anything from prohibition or the war on drug?
It should be legal anyway.
Let's fight the root of this problem which is poverty and not its result of it.
99% of pimps are blacks, too lazy and stupid to work, people that can not speak English find work,while the pimps abuse, beat, force women and girls that are vulnerable and afraid to make money for the bums, to stop the customers need to also be charged.
you MUST be a woman! why arrest the customer? everyone knows that a hard johnson has no conscience and sometimes cannot be ignored.
Legalize the whole process like other countries do. That will solve many of the problems.
One of them is the police that have to justify their jobs so they go around hunting for someone to arrest.
You can also tax and monitor those that are involved in the trade instead of putting people in jail.
To the liberal eye.. anybody that is poor and committing immoral acts.. is somehow a "victim".
Far from reality.. these girls do it for money.. plain and simple. If you think otherwise, you have no clue.
They let her go BEFORE they used the phone to contact the pimp? Did it occur to them that she could alert him within minutes of her release?
I think this approach makes sense. Arresting and holding hasn't. They might save a few young women in the process. Good job.
what are you talking about? when she didn't rat on her pimp, she was arrested.
I don't understand why the cops don't just either triangulate the pimp's cellphone or trace his phone if it's a landline. Neither should be too difficult; 911 has the capacity to do it within seconds. Once you start getting into conversations with pimps, an alarm bell should be going off that your approach is too complicated. Where would these cops have been 20 years ago when texting hadn't been invented? They are too reliant on the technology. Are they looking for probable cause? It's written all over the phone logs. Why did they let the woman go? So she could borrow the nearest cellphone from her friend and cover her own rear when her pimp found out that her phone had been confiscated by cops? No wonder she didn't buy the protection story. Pimps are smart. Cops too often aren't.
A) triangulation of a cell phone doesn't work like it does on the TV shows. It won't give you an exact location that you can zoom in on. It can get you close but unless he's the only guy within a 100 feet there would be no way to pick him out. It also requires that the phone be in the range of at least two cell towers.
B) this sort of triangulation often requires a warrant.
C) None of them use landlines.
D) the way 911 works on landlines is to match the phone number with the address associated with that number. 911 cannot track a cell phone. If you call 911 from a cell phone they will ask you for your location because they don't have any way to find you otherwise.
Seriously, real life is *not* like the TV shows.
JOSYMOL:My point is, you're My point is, you're never 2 young or 2 old, you always have to be ceufarl w knives. I cut myself many times but only 2 were mildly serious. The 1st bad cut was when my left middle finger got in the way of my knife while cutting some vines, right where the 1st joint is close to the nail. I cured myself w Peroxyde, gauzes & bandaids. I needed stiches but didn't tell my parents & it got infected. Almost lose my finger. 2nd time I tripped & kneeled on top of my knife & cut my leg under my left knee.
The ones who sell lower side of body are criminal. The ones who sell upper side of body are respective. For me, as long as they don't steel, don't rob and don't transfer disease, both sides are OK. If upper side does anything hurting others, such as , that is criminal
Orange County? Isn't that a super Republican area of CA?
JOSYMOL:Well, I was redinag Well, I was redinag some of your viewers comments & your response to them lol. I guess you have a lot of kids watching your videos, hehe. I always wanted a cane like that. Especially because I do have to use a cane due to of an ankle/foot injury. ut the dragon head, evn thou its nice, it draws too much attention. Especially from cops who would love to get you for carrying a concealed weapon lol.Very nice thou
Pimps and pimples: things you wanta mash.
"He begins by explaining she's not under arrest. The young woman listens but doesn't buy it. She stays silent. Eventually Friesen gives up and she is taken away."
Not under arrest. But taken away when she chooses not to talk without the presence of a lawyer. Was she even offered the chance? Was she actually being detained? If she wasn't under arrest, was she free to leave?
Good questions. To where was she taken? What happened to her? A good reporter would have followed up.
"Sometimes that's all you can hope for," eh? Only in a country where men still feel the need to assert dominance over women, and perpetually cast them in the role of victims. The Hero complex strikes again.
...same garbage as always,-as with drugs,street level cops do the arresting on the consumer end,- CIA,UN,military and State Dept do the trafficking.,-nothing will ever change this little arrangement
When you're a victim, you do look for help. Why are the girls trusting the pimps ? money, drugs, .... ??
Some of these women are so lazy they take the easy road of doing men for the money. It is the only thing they know that makes quick money. It is not entirely a man's problem... if it were, why have they been locking up the pros for so long?
question... are these girls brought in , illegal ? if so . they have not much choice. if by treating them as victims, maybe some will roll over (no pun intended) and give up some of the traffickers . but, as george carlin said, why is it illegal for someone to sell something that is perfectly legal to give away ??
Because it's 'merikaaaaaaaaa, f–k yeah!
In NO WAY are these ho's victims. They make a fortune doing what they do, and more importantly they CHOOSE to do it on their own!
I see my comments haven't posted, as I may have used "no-no" words, that referred to the actual subject of this article. So, I'll try to comment about this subject, without using the actual word that labels it.
Noone goes into this because they're well. They're, either, desperate, emotionally or psychologically damaged or struggling with addiction. I'm always astonished at the vitriol thrown at these individuals, those who work the streets. Who is this really a crime against, other than themselves? They're exploited and abused and for some reason, otherwise "upstanding" members of our society, show their true colors and de-humanize people, when it comes to this subject, declaring: "They deserve what's coming to them". It's so bizzare.
Entering this underground World, doesn't mean someone forfeits their basic, human rights and agrees to let others harm them - or worse. And what they're selling demoralizes and endangers themselves - they're at risk of attack, stress and disease - but it doesn't compare to those illegally selling firearms and drugs.
These people deserve our patience and compassion, not cruelty and indifference. This approach investigated in the article, above, is the best, more humane way to handle this problem.
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You say that comments are not pre-screened before they post. Then why are my comments almost always "awaiting moderation"? Why do my comments hardly ever post, even though none of them violate your Terms of Service?
Where is the woman "taken" away too? Is taken away another word for Jail?
Are the police taking away and questioning the woman against her will? So...It actually it's the police who are forcing the woman, not the pimp?
If the parents were raising there kids to live a "normal" life, at least make sure your son doesn't act like a pimp, and daughter's not a ho, or was mama a ho too??!!, We encourage a life of "I'ma bad ass n***a, or wann be, look at my bling, do what I say ho, u just my b**ch".. sure I like a little hip hop (without the violence), but this is what our young people are living.. and yes, what happened to the girl, she never charged? follow up story? Throw her in the clink and get her parents in there explaining why they don't know or care about this??? bust em all, send a message.
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